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Is Rigol DS1054Z still a good option in 2019?
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uargo:
In my modest opinion, he will say that Rigol is quite good for its price, but if I stick to the parameters, in Spain:
The Rigol DS1054Z costs € 400 with taxes included.
The Siglent SDS1104x-e costs € 510 with taxes included.
The price difference is € 100, it is 25% and not 50% with they say out there.
If we have to hack the two oscilloscopes, we get:

Rigol 4 channels, 100Mhz and serial decoders, for € 400.

Siglent 4 channels, 200Mhz, serial decoders, Wifi, AWG license (option to expand to AWG) and MSO license (option to expand to MSO), for € 510.

And if we enter into technical characteristics:

Siglent is better than Rigol in:

Siglent has 2 Adc of 1Gs, being able to work the 4 channels at 500Ms
Rigol has 1 Adc of 1Gs, being able to work the 4 channels at 250Ms

Siglent Wfm = ​​100,000, up to 400,000 in segmented memory.
Rigol Wfm = ​​30,000.

Siglent has 14Mb x 2, that is 14Mbs per 2 channels = 28Mbs.
Rigol has 24Mb.

Siglent has FFT of 1Mp, really usable and reliable.
Rigol has a toy FFT.

Siglent has SFRA or Bode Plot with an AWG (any AWG from Siglent works).

Siglent has Wifi, remote control by web, option to expand to AWG and MSO.

Siglent moves faster in the menus because of its more modern hardware.

Siglent has functions of tables and markers in FFT and serial decoding, etc. They really help a lot.

With this I do not say that Rigol is a bad option, much less, but if seeing its technical characteristics the Siglent is one step above the Rigol, and the price is also a step above.

It all depends on whether you want or can spend those extra € 100.
SmokeyTheElectrician:
With that MSO 5000 series,
in particular the 5074 with hacks,IMHO,
Rigol owns the knee in the curve ( ~$1000+/-)
of diminishing returns for the hobbyist market.

Even so,I am totally on board with either the
Siglent 1104 or Rigol 5074 and hacks.

However, I ended up "bargaining-out" with
a $230 deal on the Rigol 1054  from my local uCenter,
which with the "hacks", should more than support my
futzing around with electronics ( mostly rPi, ucontrollers,
and FPGA / CPLD programmable logic ) for quite a while...

Before stumbling across the uCenter deal on the Rigol 1054,
I was much more thinking, "well, I have ~ $200 or $250 in
the budget today for such a purchase and PayPal has that
6 months no interest payment plan, so I should get the
Siglent 1104 with $250 as a down payment of sorts and
then pay it off with 6 payments of about $42 without
incurring any interest.

cheers to all.
SmokeyTheElectrician:
confession:

this is a duplicate post from the what did you buy today thread,
but read on, I think it may help someone(s) score a total deal
on a Rigol 1054z.

--

I found the caveat in the deal,
the calibration just expired.

Which is fine for my bench.
I doubt my old GW Instek GOS-635G
was ever calibrated outside the factory
and it has served me well for the past
couple years ( bought used from someone
of whom I believed obtained it from
someone else who bought surplus from
when ITT Tech closed up shop ).

It must have gotten lost and been
laying around for 12 or 15 months
and they just wanted to clear it out.

If anyone is in the market for a great deal on a Rigol 1054z,
uCenter's web store was showing they still have a handful
or two scattered around the USA and last I checked they
were down to 184.31.
   ( store pick up only -- 1@Duluth-GA, 2@Rockville-MD, 2@Westbury-NY,
      1@Brooklyn-NY, and 3@Yonkers-NY )
By the time they sell the last one, someone is going to walk away
with a 1054z for something entirely ridiculous, like $35.

Cheers.
thinkfat:

--- Quote from: 2N3055 on August 04, 2019, 07:35:11 pm ---The whole idea of "bang for the buck" is what is best i can get for the money I have in my hand..

For the Rigol DS1054Z kind of money, Rigol DS1054Z is still best bang for the buck.
For the Siglent SDS1104X-E kind of money,SDS1104X is BBFTB .
For Rigol MSO5000 kind of money MSOX5000 is BBFTB .
For Siglent SDS5000X kind of money SDS5000X seems to be BBFTB.

--- End quote ---

Memorable quote from "Top Gear" (when it was still Top Gear):

--- Quote ---The best car you can get for Mondeo money is a Mondeo.

--- End quote ---
Gandalf_Sr:

--- Quote from: uargo on August 24, 2019, 08:09:34 pm ---If we have to hack the two oscilloscopes, we get:

Rigol 4 channels, 100Mhz 300MHz and serial decoders, for € 400.

Siglent 4 channels, 200Mhz, serial decoders, Wifi, AWG license (option to expand to AWG) and MSO license (option to expand to MSO), for € 510.

--- End quote ---
And if we enter into non-technical characteristics:

I bought a new Siglent scope that had missing capacitors that caused an issue where you had to re-calibrate the probes when changing Y gain.  Siglent told me that this was an in-specification 'feature' and offered to send me the missing (surface mount) capacitors, they also confirmed that, if I took the back off the scope, I'd void my warranty.

No doubt we'll be told by the Siglent fan boys that this is all now fixed, in fact someone was saying that Siglent was actively working on the firmware which I presume meant that Rigol weren't!  That could be interpreted to mean that the Rigol is full debugged but the Siglent isn't.

I own two $10,000ish 4-channel Keysight scopes but the DS1054Z still does 99% of what I need.  IMHO, buy the DS1054Z and use Riglol (not a typo) to upgrade it to 300 MHz and all options enabled.  Spend what you save on beer or a gift for the one you love.
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