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exe:
There is a lot of love to the new pace soldering iron. However, I think its performance is greatly exaggerated. Dave clearly showed that jbc solders better at the same temperature. Not "a bit better", but really better. It's not in the same league with jbc and metcal. Of course at this point people start pointing at the price, but to me it looks like backpedaling. BTW, is it universally accessible for the advertised price? People reported real pricing was almost twice higher than MSRP.

Second, I'm yet to see how pace compares to ksger (which I bought for ~$40 delivered, controller without PSU can be got twice cheaper, afaik) and how much more value it brings. No doubt who will win, but I want to see the difference in numbers.

Third, t12 didn't become worse just because someone release a new iron.

I'd say ADS200 is overhyped. One real thing (tm) that can be "a game changer" about pace is support for tweezers. Will see in August.

Shock:
Dave was using a low soldering temperature on a high thermal mass. As I mentioned old firmware and there are differences in the heating profile and tip plating between stations. It's not a comparable test.

If you look at the Pace station it's hardly moving off temp so no proper thermal bridge was established. There were small differences, like the geometry favored the JBC tip (it was shorter) and I got the impression it was running hotter from the thermometer test. Being used on a mound of solder and kept consistently on the joint may help it establish a thermal bridge faster. Once that happens of course the heat is going to dump into the joint and the station regulates the deficiency which is where overshoot comes into play.

The Pace is designed with a very conservative heating profile to maintain temp accuracy. It's a little easier to see in the latest firmware which has single digit resolution.

It's a great station, pity there are no videos showing any actual proper soldering with it yet. Pace mentioned distributors set their own prices, at least the 120V model is cheap in the US. Yeah can't wait to see the tweezers are like.

Gandalf_Sr:
I can get the Jabe UD-1200 from Alibaba shipped DHL to the USA, 110V with English menu for $220 US.  I'm tempted after watching DEFPOM's review, especially as it has English menu.  What are the tips used in this? I assume they are the same as the JBC iron it clearly copies?

[EDIT] From the pictures, it looks pretty certain that the tips are the (more popular) C245 range, all the Jabe tips in the pictures are marked 2245-xxx and they look physically the same.  I was also happy to get the English menu system.

Anyway, I just placed the order; maybe Donnie-2 scoops' tariffs will bite me in the ass but whatever, I can spend more on a night out in a good restaurant than I paid for the Jabe, $223 shipped via DHL.

SoundTech-LG:
Great question, because the JBC tips are grossly over priced...

Shock:

--- Quote from: Gandalf_Sr on June 05, 2019, 02:55:37 pm ---I'm tempted after watching DEFPOM's review, especially as it has English menu.  What are the tips used in this? I assume they are the same as the JBC iron it clearly copies?

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I don't think the video above showing the JBC clone was Defpoms.

In that video play close attention to how the JBC overshoots by 20C then sits solidly on 450C while soldering. Then the clone lands instantly on a perfect 450C and starts dipping while soldering. Overshooting while soldering looks hidden in both firmware.

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