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GreyWoolfe:
--- Quote from: Shock on June 05, 2019, 10:43:50 am ---After everything is taken into account Metcal is 10 times the running costs of Pace.
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Depends on whether you buy new or used. Nothing wrong with a used MX-500. I scored a crazy deal trading some stuff I got for free at the local surplus store and by the time I was done, I have the PSU, Talon tweezers and stand, added NOS RM-3E wand and base and 8 tips for just north of $200 USD. Metcal tips are getting a bit pricey but Thermaltronics makes tips that work for under $20 USD. I have spent as little as $10 for a tip.
If you are willing to wait and hunt, there are deals to be had. Shock, I know you love your Pace, but you will never persuade me to give up my Metcal! :-DD
Shock:
When looking at stations it's clear some don't accurately show the tip temperature or overshoot when heating this gives a false indication of speed. Plus to get an idea of performance you need to at least compare stations with a tip thermometer and start by checking the calibration before testing.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/disappointed-with-jbc/
I read this thread a while ago, the Performance Comparison attached was for the JBC BD-2A station with T245-A handpiece. If you look at the recovery the JBC is overshooting, except at 400C it must have forgot to on that occasion. :D
From observing the slope and the stations I have a fair idea it's using an aggressive profile and recovering faster by applying more heating cycles. The problem in doing this is maintaining temperature accuracy and giving a false indication of performance. It's hard to do a side by side comparison without constantly observing the temperature especially with long dwell times which would favor the more aggressive profile.
This performance comparison was not the CD-1BQE station but I expect they are still doing similar. This is not about hating on JBC stations it's to highlight comparing stations and making assumptions on performance without complete data i.e. software, tip geometry and construction.
Shock:
--- Quote from: GreyWoolfe on June 07, 2019, 12:51:28 am ---If you are willing to wait and hunt, there are deals to be had. Shock, I know you love your Pace, but you will never persuade me to give up my Metcal! :-DD
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Congrats on the score, Heh no I would never do that. The only station people should be persuaded from buying now is the Hakko FX-951 (possibly the Hakko FX-203 in the future) :).
snoopy:
--- Quote from: GreyWoolfe on June 07, 2019, 12:51:28 am ---
--- Quote from: Shock on June 05, 2019, 10:43:50 am ---After everything is taken into account Metcal is 10 times the running costs of Pace.
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Depends on whether you buy new or used. Nothing wrong with a used MX-500. I scored a crazy deal trading some stuff I got for free at the local surplus store and by the time I was done, I have the PSU, Talon tweezers and stand, added NOS RM-3E wand and base and 8 tips for just north of $200 USD. Metcal tips are getting a bit pricey but Thermaltronics makes tips that work for under $20 USD. I have spent as little as $10 for a tip.
If you are willing to wait and hunt, there are deals to be had. Shock, I know you love your Pace, but you will never persuade me to give up my Metcal! :-DD
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But you can't easily change the tip temperature on a Metcal because it is totally fixed by the tip you are using. This reminds me of the old Weller WTCPN soldering stations with the fixed tip temperatures. :-DD
exe:
--- Quote from: Shock on June 07, 2019, 01:26:34 am ---From observing the slope and the stations I have a fair idea it's using an aggressive profile and recovering faster by applying more heating cycles.
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I think this is a good feature, esp. if it can be turned on and off. Or, put it another way, adjustable PID settings.
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