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Gandalf_Sr:

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--- Quote from: Gandalf_Sr on June 05, 2019, 10:44:06 am ---The power supply in the KSGER is supposed to be 24V / 5A which is 120W and upping the voltage slightly to say 29V would get me 145W.
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Are you aware the Hakko T12 and T15 series 70w tips are the same as your Hakko FX-951 75W station uses? The clone T12 tips won't be any better than what you currently have.

Aliexpress says the Ksger is 75W (120W Max). 120W looks like a power supply maximum specification to me not the tip power consumption. I hope you're not expecting Pace and JBC performance after buying the Ksger. You are buying a cheap interface replacement with a smps.

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Whatever the specs suggest, the KSGER has arrived and it's a little beast.  The actual unit was shipped from the USA but it only came with 1 tip, the one that looks like a fat Xacto knife, but I'm warming to it.  The heat delivery is excellent, way better than the Hakko FX-951 and the standby and sleep funtions well implemented.  One thing I discovered today was that a sleeping KSGER will come up RUNNING if the mains power goes out for a second or 2 which happened to me this morning - it's possible that there's a menu item to fix this.

I looked inside and the PCB build quality is OK but they were in a hurry soldering stuff together, when I have time I'll take it apart and improve it as well as grounding the case which is a bad oversight having 115V coming into a case that's not grounded.

My Jabe UD-1200 115V English menus also shipped today  from Alibaba.

labjr:
I'm wondering how the heat delivery of the KSGER can be way better than the FX-951?  More overshoot in the programming? Inaccurate temperature display? Keep in mind that temperature cycling and accurate setback temperature probably affects the tip life.

I wonder if there will be any third party programming for the Pace ADS200 with more aggressive ramp up curves and maybe a bit of overshoot? Perhaps in time.

snoopy:

--- Quote from: labjr on June 10, 2019, 10:27:39 pm ---I'm wondering how the heat delivery of the KSGER can be way better than the FX-951?  More overshoot in the programming? Inaccurate temperature display? Keep in mind that temperature cycling and accurate setback temperature probably affects the tip life.

I wonder if there will be any third party programming for the Pace ADS200 with more aggressive ramp up curves and perhaps a bit of overshoot? Perhaps in time.

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maybe similar heat delivery but the user interface on the fx-951 controller is brain dead and almost useless. The KSGER controller has a nice feature in that you can accurately calibrate each tip and add the calibration profile to a library of predefined T12 tip models thus making sure each tip works at its correct temperature. Don't know any other controller that has this feature. One of the perks of open source diy which is not limited by some MBA dickhead breathing down your neck for more shareholder return ;)

cheers

exe:
Yeah, I think ksger UI almost nailed it. I'd change behavior a little bit (I'd make temperature change the default action, but I can live with current behavior). Rotary encoders FTW!

Shock:

--- Quote from: labjr on June 10, 2019, 10:27:39 pm ---I'm wondering how the heat delivery of the KSGER can be way better than the FX-951?  More overshoot in the programming? Inaccurate temperature display? Keep in mind that temperature cycling and accurate setback temperature probably affects the tip life.

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Could be anything or nothing, easy to look at a more responsive displays and be mislead. I'd start by characterizing the tip, seeing if requires an offset and using the same tip in both stations. Measure the output voltage, check the tip calibration and get a feel for the overshoot with temperature thermometer. Then count heating cycles.


--- Quote ---I wonder if there will be any third party programming for the Pace ADS200 with more aggressive ramp up curves and perhaps a bit of overshoot? Perhaps in time.

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Well recovery is still fast, from what I can the curve only softens near set temp so I doubt nothing is lost in performance. It just means if a station has overshoot its the same as if someone had turned the set temp up 10-20 degrees etc. The Pace has a fairly simple circuit design so eventually someone will substitute in their own micro and software.

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