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Shock:
Now you have to determine why there was such a large difference. Because if the tip temps are the same and it's the same wattage tip why would one be better than the other.

Just curious though you didn't happen to buy your FX-951 off amazon, ebay or secondhand did you?

labjr:
Did you use the same tip? Or swap tips?  Did you measure the tip temperatures?

exe:
There are fake Hakko stations that look like real ones. That was one of the reasons I didn't buy it: too many fakes, too hard to identify which one is real. I'm personally not capable of recognizing Hakko fakes, differences are too subtle and unreliable. Like, boot up time, I see no reason why clones cannot "fix" it.

Also, I once was surprised how well my clone of Hakko 936 performed after I replaced the broken heater... Until I measured tip temperature :). Turned out there are different temperature sensors, my station didn't like the new handpiece and put temperature much higher than it should.

labjr:
BTW, while KSGER and other stations from banggood etc. may be good for hobbyist use, they probably wouldn't hold up for production use. The quality is questionable with dozens of variants of the same product from different sources. And there's no certifications for safety or otherwise. So it's not an apples to apples comparison. People are used to cheap knock-offs of everything. It seems unreasonable to expect real companies such as Hakko & Pace to compete price-wise with goods from Bangood and Aliexpress.

exe:

--- Quote from: labjr on June 11, 2019, 02:18:59 pm ---The quality is questionable with dozens of variants of the same product from different sources.

--- End quote ---

There are clones, but I thought KSGER means a very specific t12 controller that is sold from an official aliexpress shop. I'd suggest buy from there, do not buy clone of a clone :)

Concerning safety, I wouldn't trust it, it's up to the buyer to check isolation and grounding :/ Ofc, no certs/compliance either.


--- Quote from: labjr on June 11, 2019, 02:18:59 pm ---It seems unreasonable to expect real companies such as Hakko & Pace to compete price-wise with goods from Bangood and Aliexpress.

--- End quote ---

I still think there is a lot of room to make branded products more accessible. Plus, for some reason, for example, ads200 costs ~%50 more in Europe than in US. While KSGER has same price everywhere. Not to say there are no artificial limitations which many big vendors like to put to segment the market and make maximum profit. This used to work, but...  I'd say the market landscape is changing, will see what's going to happen next.

BTW, is there really that big demand for certified hand-soldering stations? Who buys them (except mil/gov)? I doubt a typical repair shop would care about certs.

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