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Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« on: June 17, 2022, 07:27:44 pm »
Hello, I decided to restore Keithley 179A, and front panel needs to be re-done, since old is all scratched, faded and cracked.
So I need some high quality image of their logo, so I can re-draw it in vector, or if someone has it in vector, I'll share complete panel stencil in exchange, when finished :)

Looking for this, in good quality.
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2022, 08:02:24 pm »
Here's a few attempts to photograph this logo from my old 179:

Don't know if they're useful to you, please check yourself
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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2022, 08:36:25 pm »
Here's a few attempts to photograph this logo from my old 179:

Don't know if they're useful to you, please check yourself



Online font identifier says that's "Colt Regular"


Download here: https://fontsme.com/colt.font
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2022, 09:22:12 pm »
The second one above looks the closest (to me), however the K logo before the word Keithley is probably not to be found in a face.
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2022, 09:41:22 pm »
The second one above looks the closest (to me), however the K logo before the word Keithley is probably not to be found in a face.

Yep, I was also unsure if it was "regular" or "soft regular", that's why I posted the image.

It's definitely "colt" though, and it's gotta be easier than trying to trace it by hand.
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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2022, 11:43:05 pm »
The fonts are not quite right. The serifs are rounded.

For a worthy restoration project, I would make it vector art. The fonts are a good starting point, which I would outline and continue from there.
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2022, 05:44:19 am »
Thanks!
I think Colt regular light - suits well. There are some subtle differences but I think, they don't matter that much.
I'm also planning an upgrade module for display, since old one has low brightness and I don't like red color that much anyways.
So I'll make a drop-in module, but have not decided what to do - either equip it with high brightness, modern 7 segment LEDs, or use some OLED display, which will be also capable of displaying say "Out of range" instead of flashing 0000s.
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2022, 07:37:53 am »
The fonts are not quite right. The serifs are rounded.

Yep, all the corners are rounder, eg. Look at the arms on the 'T'.

It could be because of the printing process, is it embossed/plastic-in-plastic?
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2022, 07:54:46 am »
My take (from a Keithley 1037 input transformer)
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2022, 08:04:06 am »
2nd try in 2 parts so I can get a little closer with the camera

Edit: added a third part for better "K" & "E"
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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2022, 08:24:53 am »
The fonts are not quite right. The serifs are rounded.

Yep, all the corners are rounder, eg. Look at the arms on the 'T'.

It could be because of the printing process, is it embossed/plastic-in-plastic?

Nope, it's because it's a different font.

This is from my 480, it's printed directly onto a shiny display filter, so it's a bit tricky to get an image without reflections.

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2022, 09:53:45 am »
Thanks everyone!
By the way, I was able to identify the another font, used for labels and model name, it is Univers Extended.
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2022, 10:08:49 am »
You probably knew this already, but the free open-source program called Inkscape has a nice bitmap to vector converter (Path menu > Trace Bitmap). Might help with the 'K' part of the logo.
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2022, 10:18:53 am »
I'm using Corel Draw since 1994, so I will handle that with ease, thanks :)
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2022, 10:35:20 am »
Ooof, not the same version I hope :-DD
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2022, 12:29:03 pm »
Nope, it's because it's a different font.

Nah, it's definitely the same font.

You can probably round the corners off by fiddling with it in a vector program, eg. Draw text, do"object->path", make the stroke wider with rounded corners, then do "inset".
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2022, 12:30:28 pm »
Ooof, not the same version I hope :-DD

Those 1990s versions were the best. Corel went steadily downhill since then.

(Inkscape user here...)
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2022, 01:28:17 pm »
Nope, it's because it's a different font.

Nah, it's definitely the same font.

You can probably round the corners off by fiddling with it in a vector program, eg. Draw text, do"object->path", make the stroke wider with rounded corners, then do "inset".

It clearly isn't. It's closer to Courier with the rounded serifs, the solo K especially. That would make some sense from a TE pov as that and the Univers fonts both had some connection to the same designer, and were made for IBM, way back when. The K in Keithley looks like a modified lower case Courier k.

There's a fair chance it's a modified version of a commercial font so that Keithley didn't have to pay for a license to use it, though as I understand it IBM didn't copyright the Courier font anyway.

It's probably superfluous to point out that the Colt font was designed for Adobe, so the Keithley use predates it by decades, but I'm sure you already knew that.

There's a version of Colt Soft that is probably the closest you'll get with a modern font:  https://blogfonts.com/colt-soft-.font
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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2022, 01:34:59 pm »
So here it is :)
 
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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2022, 01:57:12 pm »
Are we allowed the vector version? ;D
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2022, 01:57:44 pm »
the solo K especially.

Forget the solo K, that's obviously been modified by hand for a trade mark. It won't be in the original font.

There's a version of Colt Soft that is probably the closest you'll get with a modern font:  https://blogfonts.com/colt-soft-.font[/color][/size][/b]

Still nothing like the original though:


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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2022, 02:48:08 pm »
This forum does not allows me to post vector file as an attachement. Send by email?

As it turns out, the "original" on my specimen, had developed due to excessive wiping :)
I was able to find a font that looks quite close to that "faded" version - it is variation of Century font.
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2022, 02:48:22 pm »
How about this?



Done by fiddling around with the path outline on that colt font.

nb. The spacing between letters isn't right, I leave that as an exercise for the reader.

Their 'I' is very narrow, too, what's up with that?
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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2022, 02:49:37 pm »
This forum does not allows me to post vector file as an attachement. Send by email?

Put it in a zip, like I did above.
 

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Re: Keithley old logo in good quality someone?
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2022, 02:57:29 pm »
I still think their printing process is a big part of the look.

eg. look the the difference between the center bar of the two 'E's. Compare the top of the 'I' to the top of the 'L'. Notice the asymmetry at the bottom of the 'T'...

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