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Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« on: November 03, 2015, 01:18:14 am »
Up today, we have the Keithley 236 Source Measurement Unit. For the time period, the 23x series was the crown jewel of the Keithley line. The Keithley 236 was the base unit, the 237 extends the voltage range up to 1100V (compared to the 236 110V limit) while the 238  expands current range to 1A (compared to the 236 100mA limit). The 23x line are  four quadrant devices capable of sourcing or sinking up to 100W. All of the images in this review should be clickable, to see the full size versions.



Like most of the three digit Keithley models, this device is styled in the typical brown/tan/red led styling of the era. The display is an impressive 18x1 alphanumeric LED display with digits that can be easily read from across the room.



The instrument interface, once learned, is quite easily usable but is far from intuitive. There are several menus and settings which are not entirely apparent in their funciton. Luckily, a lot can be controlled strictly from the front panel using the number pad, the large jog wheel and the various other functions.









Current output can be set from +/-0.0001nA (100fA) to +/-100mA, while the voltage can range from +/-0.0001V to +/-110.00V. Clearly, the more low level measurements will need to be done under very controlled conditions using the sense connections that I don't have.





The top and side panels are the standard Keithley dark brown, not much to see. The top slides into place via two rails and is robustly secured via four screws on the top and two on the back. The sides have thick rubber handles to enable easier carrying, as well as pre-tapped holes for rack mounting ears.





Along the back we see the various connections used with this meter, there are no electrical connections on the front. The connections include a GPIB port, interlock ports, trigger input and output, ground, lo output (which is tied to ground but can be made to float), the Lo sense triaxial connector, the HI sense triaxial connector and the Hi output triaxial connecor. Due to the VERY low currents capable with this device it uses triaxial outputs (output - guard - shield) to ensure the signals are only minimally affected by noise. Note: These LOOK like standard BNC but they are not, they are true triaxial connectors and hooking up a BNC to the triaxial can damage them. I only had one triaxial cable so I could not enable the sense lines. Note the Made in the USA logo on the back.



Removing the bottom panel, exposes very little of interest, just a trio of structural braces, some shielding and a warning about lethal voltages.



Removing the aforementioned six screws, we are able to slide off the lid and get our first look at the insides of this device. We see a very clean layout, my only complain is that the wires in the power supply could have been made to be a bit more tidy. The HP 6114A is a beautiful example of clean wiring layout. On the left side, we can see an extensive use of shielding, with a notch cutout of the output shields for the required output heatsink. Remember this device will possibly need to sink and dissipate 100W of power, so a heatsink is VERY necessary. In the middle, we see the power supply with the various linear regulators and filtering capacitors. On the right side, we see another shield plus the digital control and communications circuitry.









The power supply is comprised strictly of linear regulators and lots of beefy line filtering caps. All of the electrolytic capacitors are Nichicon. The linear regulators are 79M15CT, L78M45CV, 7805CT, 2xLM317 and a beefy LM323. Yep, those are +/- 150V rails for the output board. We are talking some serious voltage here and that is to be expected in a device that can reach 110V output.













Here are an assortment of chips that make up the inside of this meter, these control everything from the digital panel functions to the GPIB. In the first image there is a standard FOX Crystal oscillator 8MHz. Interestingly, there is a series of what appear to be HP made optocouplers. These likely provide the isolation for between the digital side and the section under this first shield. We also see that this meter and the 237 share a lot of boards. Apparently, this jumper gets cut on the 237.







Removing the shield, we get our first view at the parts inside. I assume that the part in the metal can is a voltage reference or an opamp but unfortunately, there is no schematic and the part number appears to be custom (the part is labeled 9851-TM made in the Philippines). We see our first precision resistors (the large red and smaller navy blue 0.1% with a labeled TC  of 10ppm/oC). There are also an assortment of 74HCxxx logic parts, an LM339 quad comparatior and a couple of Philips NE553x op-amps. I wonder if this forms some sort of dual-slope or multi-slope converter (though that is only my WAG based on the large box capacitor near by).





The rest of the lines for the next shield pass through this grommet. Removing the shield shows....another shield  ;D





 Along with another shield, it shows a large precision resistor and a bunch of op-amps and other assorted parts. The metal cans near the top are all labeled F9824AC, like all of the other interesting parts the part numbers went nowhere. Based on the size, I will guess they are some sort of BJT (like a metal canned 2n2222).





Removing the shield, we can see a bunch of the red high speed relays that Keithley loves so much. We also see the reason for the double shielding; the high value resistors. With these high of values it takes very little noise to generate a signal. We also see a BUNCH of polystyrene capacitors. Interestingly enough, this section switches from through-hole devices to wiring the devices point-to-point via elevated turrets. We also see a Caddock 0.5% 2ppmTC resistor divider.







Getting a closer look, we can see the spiral groove cut into the side of the high value resistors to set the resistance value. We can also see the RF connector, which connects directly to the outputs. I am not an RF guy but my guess is this is an SMB connector. It is pretty large and pretty beefy (as expected to carry the watts needed).





Here we see the large Analog Devices TO-9 cans marked AD42212-9640 (yet again a custom part number). Next to this is an elevated 1.2mA current regulator diode (1N5299). This diode regulates a constant current across itself, the current analog to a zener diode.







On to the last board, the one with the output transistors. Removing the four screws (incude this one which you have to wiggle out), exposes the rather small connector beneath it. The board itself, once again is shared with the 237, those I assume the extra spots are filled in on that model.







On the board we see some rather large 5% precision silver mica capacitors, IRF630 N-Channel MOSFET and its sister IRF9630 P-Channel MOSFET. These MOSFETs are rated to 200V each and are  responsible for output AND power dissipation duties.

Performance Measurements

I ran a range of DC Current values and read the currents simulatanously on my HP 34401A (set to 6.5 digit mode, slow) and sanity checked with another meter inline. The HP appears to be out of spec at its lowest values, the other sanity meter was able to read all the way down. The HP was also noisier at the low labels. Clearly though, above 10uA, this devices is a VERY nice current source with a lot of accuracy.
Units |Keithley 236 | HP 34401A |% Error
mA100.0099.9859-0.0141
mA50.0049.9969-0.0062
mA10.0009.99561-0.0439
uA50004999.5-0.01
mA1.0000.99993-0.007
uA500.0499.94-0.012
uA100.0099.87-0.13
uA10.0009.93-0.7
uA1.0000.94-6
nA1000.03-70
nA10XXXXXXXXXX

The Keithley 236 had some calibration issues with voltage in the highest range. This is most clearly illustrated in the different in % error between 010.00V and 10.000V settings. I am unsure if the worse error at the lower voltages is due to the calibration or if it was because I didn't have access to additional triaxial cables for the sense lines.

Units |Keithley 236 | HP 34401A |% Error
V110.000110.11540.105
V100.000100.10390.104
V50.00050.05640.113
V010.00010.011350.114
V10.000010.002790.028
V1.00001.0003720.037
mV100100.01620.016
mV109.9713-0.287
mV10.9815-1.85
mV0.10.0733-26.7

One more thing that was interesting about this is that you can create voltage scans really quickly. You tell it the type of sweep (log versus linear), the start voltage, the stop voltage, the number of data points per decade, etc. Then you tell it to run and it runs through them and stores the values recorded for current. You can then either export via GPIB (I don't have GPIB) or scroll through them using the jog wheel and write them down (what I did). The following is a Voltage versus Current graph for an Optek white LED I had on hand, it covers 25 data points which were taken in about 20 seconds (it took way longer writing them down, than it took to do the reads).



The LED was binned to have a Vf of 3.2-3.4 at 20mA, which as you can see it meets very clearly.

Conclusion

As it shows, this device is really a very highly capable and remarkable device. While it may not hold a candle to the newer SMUs, for its age it is a remarkable piece of kit. The current accuracy is exceptionally good (especially for testing handheld meters) and the built in ability to create voltage versus current curves is VERY nice. A combination of a 237 and 238 would likely give you all of your testing needs for testing DC functionality on multimeters.  The only downside to this device is the VERY expensive triaxial connectors which cost an arm and a leg to find. Though clearly on a device that can measure down the fA, this level of shielding and craziness is VERY necessary.


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Re: Keitley 236 Teardown and Review
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2015, 01:22:13 am »
Very very nice! :clap: Now show us how to convert it into a 237. O0
 

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Re: Keitley 236 Teardown and Review
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2015, 02:06:13 am »
Very very nice! :clap: Now show us how to convert it into a 237. O0

Haha I wish. There are no schematics that I have seen for this meter (even though they are mentioned in the manual, the section is just missing).
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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2015, 03:16:36 am »
Thanks for the teardown, a rather unique unit.
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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2015, 04:19:25 am »
Neat box.
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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2015, 04:24:54 am »
Fantastic, thanks for sharing!  :-+  :popcorn:
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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2015, 04:42:13 am »
Beauty, I like these old pieces of equipment. Thanks for sharing!!
 

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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2015, 05:48:52 am »
Thanks for the great teardown!
 

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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2015, 05:03:45 pm »
Beauty, I like these old pieces of equipment. Thanks for sharing!!

The best part is that pretty much everything in this devices is off the shelf parts. They may use custom part numbers but I lay you odds that if you searched long enough you could find what the part actually is. I just wish there was a schematic to evaluate the circuits. The schematic for my 199 was very helpful in diagnosing issues. Then again this is a whole different level of instrument than the 199.
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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2015, 07:38:55 pm »
Excellent review/tear-down. I agree with everything... I'm just planning to calibrate mine with borrowed 34465A and some 0.1% resistors.
 

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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2016, 08:38:59 am »
I am following EEVblog now for some time and have been heavily infected with the electronics virus. As this is my first post i want to start with a contribution to the community:

I have scanned and uploaded now the service manual for the Keithley 236 & 237 with all schematics and parts lists to KO4BB's manual archive. It's still in the recent upload folder and has to be checked first by KO4BB and should be soon available for download.

This SMU is a marvelous device, i own a faulty 237 model which does not want to output voltage above 150 volts. I hope i find soon enough some time for troubleshooting.

cheers

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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2016, 08:54:54 am »
Got a 236, thanks for the teardown!

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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2016, 02:53:58 am »
Very nice job.

You need a very good instrument to calibrate this beast. Calibrating a 1nA range is a demanding task.

I own one each of 236, 237 and 238. I had the ability to calibrate my SMUs over a year ago with a borrowed instrument. The ranges below 1uA had drifted out of spec. They were all able to be brought back into spec. The 1100 volt range of the 237 was a tiny bit out of spec and was able to be adjusted into spec.

This year my 237 started acting up. It will be going in for a check-up in a couple of weeks.

I wrote a bare bones python script to measure the family of cureves of a BJT with the 236 and 237. The scripting language is no fun. Very slow going and no chance of reading what you wrote a few months later. A comment for every line of code is recommended. No chance of deciphering the instructions without comments.

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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2016, 11:52:26 pm »
I am following EEVblog now for some time and have been heavily infected with the electronics virus. As this is my first post i want to start with a contribution to the community:

I have scanned and uploaded now the service manual for the Keithley 236 & 237 with all schematics and parts lists to KO4BB's manual archive. It's still in the recent upload folder and has to be checked first by KO4BB and should be soon available for download.

This SMU is a marvelous device, i own a faulty 237 model which does not want to output voltage above 150 volts. I hope i find soon enough some time for troubleshooting.

cheers

Mono

Disconnect the ground/chassis strap from the LO banana jacks and see if your output goes above 150V.
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Re: Keithley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2016, 06:26:59 am »
My scanned full service manual is finally now available under http://www.ko4bb.com/getsimple/index.php?id=download&file=06_Misc_Test_Equipment/Keithley/Keithley_236_237_Source_Measure_Unit_SMU_Service_Manual_and_schematics.pdf

Thanks!

You might want to submit/upload this to xdevs. They have the single largest collection of Keithley information I've ever seen.

For everyone else: It is very useful to cross reference Keithley internal part numbers and google search for the part number by itself. Many, many parts are used in multiple units (beyond the obvious sharing between nearly identical units, like the 236 and 237). I was able to reconstruct 100% of the parts for the Keithley product I have (197 multimeter) despite not having a service manual!

Speaking of which, would you happen to have a Keithley 197 service manual? :)
 

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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2016, 06:55:54 am »
@VintageNut: thanks for the suggestion. I'll try it when I am back home and come back to you. At the moment I am on a road trip in Australia and enjoying free time (and fleeing from Xmas and new year).
 

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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2017, 01:07:31 pm »
A word of thanks to Monolith for spending your time for the leg-work of scanning and uploading the 236 SMU Service Manual.

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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2017, 04:39:49 pm »
I am following EEVblog now for some time and have been heavily infected with the electronics virus. As this is my first post i want to start with a contribution to the community:

I have scanned and uploaded now the service manual for the Keithley 236 & 237 with all schematics and parts lists to KO4BB's manual archive. It's still in the recent upload folder and has to be checked first by KO4BB and should be soon available for download.

This SMU is a marvelous device, i own a faulty 237 model which does not want to output voltage above 150 volts. I hope i find soon enough some time for troubleshooting.

cheers

Mono

Disconnect the ground/chassis strap from the LO banana jacks and see if your output goes above 150V.


You were right! I pulled my Keithley 237 from the shelf again and disconnected the ground bridge from the LO output connector. After that there was no problem with sourcing V over 150 volts. What is going on here? Is this the right behaviour? I have checked briefly the user manual but didn't find any hints for removing the bridge to output higher voltages..
 

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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2017, 07:00:51 am »
I am following EEVblog now for some time and have been heavily infected with the electronics virus. As this is my first post i want to start with a contribution to the community:

I have scanned and uploaded now the service manual for the Keithley 236 & 237 with all schematics and parts lists to KO4BB's manual archive. It's still in the recent upload folder and has to be checked first by KO4BB and should be soon available for download.

This SMU is a marvelous device, i own a faulty 237 model which does not want to output voltage above 150 volts. I hope i find soon enough some time for troubleshooting.

cheers

Mono

Disconnect the ground/chassis strap from the LO banana jacks and see if your output goes above 150V.


You were right! I pulled my Keithley 237 from the shelf again and disconnected the ground bridge from the LO output connector. After that there was no problem with sourcing V over 150 volts. What is going on here? Is this the right behaviour? I have checked briefly the user manual but didn't find any hints for removing the bridge to output higher voltages..

I have operated three different model 237 units and all three behave the same. Remove the chassis-to-LO strap if you want to use the highest voltage range.
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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2017, 12:59:43 pm »
I am following EEVblog now for some time and have been heavily infected with the electronics virus. As this is my first post i want to start with a contribution to the community:

I have scanned and uploaded now the service manual for the Keithley 236 & 237 with all schematics and parts lists to KO4BB's manual archive. It's still in the recent upload folder and has to be checked first by KO4BB and should be soon available for download.

This SMU is a marvelous device, i own a faulty 237 model which does not want to output voltage above 150 volts. I hope i find soon enough some time for troubleshooting.

cheers

Mono

Disconnect the ground/chassis strap from the LO banana jacks and see if your output goes above 150V.


You were right! I pulled my Keithley 237 from the shelf again and disconnected the ground bridge from the LO output connector. After that there was no problem with sourcing V over 150 volts. What is going on here? Is this the right behaviour? I have checked briefly the user manual but didn't find any hints for removing the bridge to output higher voltages..

I have operated three different model 237 units and all three behave the same. Remove the chassis-to-LO strap if you want to use the highest voltage range.


Thanks for the info. That makes me more confident, and i can finally concentrate on cleaning and rebuilding the device. After that i will backup ROM's and make some performance tests..

Still don't know why it's note mentioned in the user manual?
 

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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2017, 09:32:55 pm »
I am following EEVblog now for some time and have been heavily infected with the electronics virus. As this is my first post i want to start with a contribution to the community:

I have scanned and uploaded now the service manual for the Keithley 236 & 237 with all schematics and parts lists to KO4BB's manual archive. It's still in the recent upload folder and has to be checked first by KO4BB and should be soon available for download.

This SMU is a marvelous device, i own a faulty 237 model which does not want to output voltage above 150 volts. I hope i find soon enough some time for troubleshooting.

cheers

Mono

Disconnect the ground/chassis strap from the LO banana jacks and see if your output goes above 150V.


You were right! I pulled my Keithley 237 from the shelf again and disconnected the ground bridge from the LO output connector. After that there was no problem with sourcing V over 150 volts. What is going on here? Is this the right behaviour? I have checked briefly the user manual but didn't find any hints for removing the bridge to output higher voltages..

I have operated three different model 237 units and all three behave the same. Remove the chassis-to-LO strap if you want to use the highest voltage range.

Thanks for confirming that this is 'normal'.  Mine tops out around 142 volts with the ground to LO strap.
Wonder why they don't make that clear in the manual!?
 

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Re: Keitley 236 Source Meter - Teardown and Review
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2017, 10:01:13 pm »
I am following EEVblog now for some time and have been heavily infected with the electronics virus. As this is my first post i want to start with a contribution to the community:

I have scanned and uploaded now the service manual for the Keithley 236 & 237 with all schematics and parts lists to KO4BB's manual archive. It's still in the recent upload folder and has to be checked first by KO4BB and should be soon available for download.

This SMU is a marvelous device, i own a faulty 237 model which does not want to output voltage above 150 volts. I hope i find soon enough some time for troubleshooting.

cheers

Mono

Disconnect the ground/chassis strap from the LO banana jacks and see if your output goes above 150V.


You were right! I pulled my Keithley 237 from the shelf again and disconnected the ground bridge from the LO output connector. After that there was no problem with sourcing V over 150 volts. What is going on here? Is this the right behaviour? I have checked briefly the user manual but didn't find any hints for removing the bridge to output higher voltages..

I have operated three different model 237 units and all three behave the same. Remove the chassis-to-LO strap if you want to use the highest voltage range.

Thanks for confirming that this is 'normal'.  Mine tops out around 142 volts with the ground to LO strap.
Wonder why they don't make that clear in the manual!?

The more I read the service manual (thanks to TiN for hosting it!), the more I am suspicious that this isn't correct.  I'm getting to thinking there's some unexpected leakage current causing the compliance voltage to be limited (in current source mode) or tripping the current limit (in voltage source mode.)  Going to have to run it through its paces some more.  Nonetheless, it's an amazing bit of gear.  Don't really need my old electrometer anymore :)
 


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