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Title: Keysight 34461A capacitance
Post by: KenGaler on May 11, 2015, 01:28:12 pm
Hi all,

Just a FYI because I haven't noticed it mentioned here.  I just got a 34461A and it now has a capacitance mode.  Not as real requirement but it could come in handy.

Ken
Title: Re: Keysight 34461A capacitance
Post by: wraper on May 11, 2015, 01:35:46 pm
It was added with latest firmware. All older meters get it too with firmware update , just lack capacitance label on the front panel.
Title: Re: Keysight 34461A capacitance
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on May 11, 2015, 02:01:21 pm
Thanks - didn't know that - maybe they should show a splash screen the first time you power up to tell you about new features...
Title: Re: Keysight 34461A capacitance
Post by: HighVoltage on May 11, 2015, 05:08:06 pm
I found an easy way to add the Capacitor Symbol.
Just use something that is called "Abreibebuchstaben" in German.
I have no idea what the English name is for these
https://www.google.de/search?q=abreibebuchstaben&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Z-FQVdzMGcqcsAG2kYCoBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=1066 (https://www.google.de/search?q=abreibebuchstaben&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Z-FQVdzMGcqcsAG2kYCoBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=1066)

And with a few lines you can make it look really professional
Title: Re: Keysight 34461A capacitance
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on May 11, 2015, 05:29:27 pm
Quote from: HighVoltage on May 11, 2015, 05:08:06 pm
I found an easy way to add the Capacitor Symbol.
Just use something that is called "Abreibebuchstaben" in German.
I have no idea what the English name is for these
https://www.google.de/search?q=abreibebuchstaben&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Z-FQVdzMGcqcsAG2kYCoBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=1066 (https://www.google.de/search?q=abreibebuchstaben&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Z-FQVdzMGcqcsAG2kYCoBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=1066)

And with a few lines you can make it look really professional
Letraset transfers - do they even still make these ?
I used a fine pencil.
Title: Re: Keysight 34461A capacitance
Post by: HighVoltage on May 11, 2015, 07:25:47 pm
Most companies that used to have them, do not carry them anymore.
There is one company left in Germany that sells them locally, where I live, all shapes and sizes and forms.

Thanks for that name "Letraset transfers"
Is there a meaning behind "Letraset" in the English language or was it a company name / trade name that brought it to market.

I am traveling right now, will take a picture of my 34461A with the added capacitor symbol, when I am back.


Title: Re: Keysight 34461A capacitance
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on May 11, 2015, 07:32:45 pm
Letraset is a brand name,  I don't know if anyone else made them but it became a generic name for any rub-down transfer.
At one time  similar transfers were a popular way to make PCB artwork, either as photographic or direct onto the PCB copper.
Title: Re: Keysight 34461A capacitance
Post by: OldNeurons on May 11, 2015, 07:44:59 pm
Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on May 11, 2015, 07:32:45 pm
Letraset is a brand name,  I don't know if anyone else made them but it became a generic name for any rub-down transfer.
At one time  similar transfers were a popular way to make PCB artwork, either as photographic or direct onto the PCB copper.
There was also Mecanorma, which was a French brand.
I remember making my first PCB using these ...
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Planche-de-360-Pastilles-de-Connecteurs-Mecanorma-CE302-/200417007042?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_71&hash=item2ea9c8d5c2 (http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Planche-de-360-Pastilles-de-Connecteurs-Mecanorma-CE302-/200417007042?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_71&hash=item2ea9c8d5c2)
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/1-planche-de-704-Pastilles-Mecanorma-2191000-1-91-mm-/200855398518?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_71&hash=item2ec3ea2876 (http://www.ebay.fr/itm/1-planche-de-704-Pastilles-Mecanorma-2191000-1-91-mm-/200855398518?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_71&hash=item2ec3ea2876)
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Lo-130-Pastilles-Mecanorma-2113068-ext-7-5mm-int-1-27-/190383648027?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_71&hash=item2c53bfed1b (http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Lo-130-Pastilles-Mecanorma-2113068-ext-7-5mm-int-1-27-/190383648027?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_71&hash=item2c53bfed1b)

Nostalgia ?
Title: Re: Keysight 34461A capacitance
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on May 11, 2015, 08:18:16 pm
Apparently you can still get them - wonder if they sell any these days...
http://www.megauk.com/artwork_aids.php (http://www.megauk.com/artwork_aids.php)

(http://www.megauk.com/images/v180.jpg)
Title: Re: Keysight 34461A capacitance
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on May 11, 2015, 08:30:11 pm
The release notes also mention "Limited secondary measurements"
Looking at the manual it shows things like DCV+ACV, ACV+frequency, temperature+resistance

I don't recall how much of this is new - did it do any secondary measurements before?
Title: Re: Keysight 34461A capacitance
Post by: KenGaler on May 11, 2015, 08:45:12 pm
Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on May 11, 2015, 08:30:11 pm
The release notes also mention "Limited secondary measurements"
Looking at the manual it shows things like DCV+ACV, ACV+frequency, temperature+resistance

I don't recall how much of this is new - did it do any secondary measurements before?

I thought that was new also but wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Keysight 34461A capacitance
Post by: HighVoltage on May 11, 2015, 09:33:07 pm
secondary measurements came only with FW update 2.08