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bd139:
We used spaces in finance these days. It’s less ambiguous than comma, period if you’re scanning through or glancing at the data leading to less mistakes. Only decimal suffix is actually a tangible mark.

This is used globally across the three continents we operate in.
nctnico:

--- Quote from: wizard69 on February 28, 2021, 05:48:34 am ---It is a nice function generator! ;) ;) ;)

As for the scope it has gotten to the point that making these is very possible with off the shelf parts.   At time I wonder why scopes are so expensive.

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Firmware. The firmware of a modern day digital oscilloscope is incredibly complex and I dare say it is very likely the most complex kind of firmware you'll find on any piece of test equipment because an oscilloscope has become an extremely versatile tool. All this complexity comes with a massive investment in development time.
Fungus:

--- Quote from: floobydust on February 27, 2021, 08:39:00 pm ---I went on that rant a long time ago, ended up at the SI or Metric Committee and gave up there. Euro writing using gaps or dots instead of commas always baffled me.
These new instruments are not metrology-grade. It's weird to see (out of the user's manual) "+3.000 7" the gap drives me nuts. Or "00.010 7" or "0.001 75" or "000.037"
Please show me more zeros, oh autoranging too dumb to change units multimeter. 37mohms I can deal with- even though the multimeter's resolution hits the floor those some functions. If I'm manual ranging, why not show the appropriate range units (u,m,k etc.)? Instead it's padded with zeros. Minor gripe.

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"Gaps" is actually the agreed standard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#Current_standards


--- Quote from: 2N3055 on February 27, 2021, 09:30:14 pm ---in math we write numbers with comma as a decimal point, and spaces between groups of 3 digits. But space is not full digit space, it's just tiny gap to be visible but not to break number as a  whole.

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Commas for decimal separator used to be "preferred" but not any more (see link above).

In my life I have to switch between dots and commas depending on who I'm writing for.

In Spain there's also a lot of people (accountants?) who use apostrophe for decimal separator. I think the Germans do it, too.


--- Quote from: 2N3055 on February 27, 2021, 09:30:14 pm ---spaces between groups of 3 digits. But space is not full digit space, it's just tiny gap to be visible but not to break number as a whole.

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What if you're using a monospaced font?
KE5FX:
Spaces (and periods) are the only way to go!   :horse:



tszaboo:

--- Quote from: wizard69 on February 28, 2021, 05:32:50 am ---Third; apparently no RTD functionality.   This would seemingly be a no brainer for a 5.5 digit meter with 4 wire capability.

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This is 100% artificial software limit. The 34460A also doesnt measure RTD, while the 34465A does. Or it doesn't do trend chart. Why? Spend more money that's why.


--- Quote from: wizard69 on February 28, 2021, 05:32:50 am ---For one why such a low CAT rating especially for an EDU targeted meter.   T

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You dont really need or want high CAT rating in a bench instrument. You will only ever meet fused connections. With a handheld DMM, you might check the fusebox in your house, but a desk DMM is on your desk. I dont think they should spend money to fulfill very specialty needs.

--- Quote from: 2N3055 on February 28, 2021, 08:17:57 am ---I know what janks use, computers where US format only for me and many here for date,

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Dont even get me started on dates. IDK how we got to the 21 century, without standardizing on dates. ISO 8601
Everyone acts like some sort of moron, that cannot remember how to write dates correctly. February 28 '21 and other moronic way of writing dates. And then you take the canned beans in your kitchen, look at the expiration date, and you see 19.02.22. OK so it either expired in 2019 or its OK for another year, because entire countries are ignorantly make up their rules on how to write dates. My favourite guesswork is in Belgium, where sometimes it is written the french way, sometimes the dutch way, sometimes they make their own way, and have to explain it on the label in 3 languages. And none of them is the correct way of writing date.

--- Quote from: bd139 on February 27, 2021, 06:34:54 pm ---Most things have service manuals. Getting at them is always the problem.

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Few people ever unboxed a 3458A. So it comes with a hardcover binder, containing programming manual, service manual, and datasheet.
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