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bd139:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on February 23, 2021, 03:14:58 am ---Sadly it doesn't look like the new meter has any of the cool trendplotting stuff in the 34465 does  :(
It does data logging, but I can't even display it on the screen  >:( Heck I can't even figure out how to save it to USB...
On the plus side, you can display voltage and current at the same time.

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Does it have an ethernet hole in it? Mostly interested in LXI stuff here.

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: Bassman59 on February 23, 2021, 03:14:14 pm ---[...]
I have the Rigol DP831 and it's so deep that it doesn't fit on my bench.
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Another way to look at it is,  "My bench is so short that a Rigol DP831 won't fit on it"!  :D

Berni:

--- Quote from: Bassman59 on February 23, 2021, 03:14:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: Kleinstein on February 22, 2021, 07:56:20 pm ---The form factor is odd for a bench DMM, but there are cases when less depth is a big plus. 
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I have the Rigol DP831 and it's so deep that it doesn't fit on my bench. I have to set it up sideways. Wider/taller would work well. (And I should've waited for the GW Instek supply I actually wanted to come back into stock, but that's a separate issue.)

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I have a Rigol DP832 and it is the perfect size. Fits like a glove among all of its half-rack width DMM buddies on top. Depth is also similar to all the other ones that I call "shallow depth rack size" of about 40cm. The shelf dimensions were designed with this common instrument size in mind.

The ones that i call "deep rack size" of 60cm is what is common for the big boatanchor test gear. I personally keep those in a big server rack instead. But that dimension range is a dieing breed, mostly used by old gear apart from things that are not as easy to shrink down like giant rack mount PSUs and similar. So id say the before mentioned 40cm deep half-rack wide box is the new standard test gear size.

floobydust:

--- Quote from: TheSteve on February 23, 2021, 08:07:57 am ---
--- Quote from: floobydust on February 23, 2021, 03:29:31 am ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on February 23, 2021, 02:57:03 am ---People inside Keysight are furiously watching it seems!

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34450A has been around several years? I think the developers are rushed and after the product release, it's not a priority to fix anything nor is there any budget to do this because the project is "finished". The main reason I shy away from purchasing Keysight is they are far too lean on F/W maintenance. 34450A Firmware Update (Revision: 01.03-01.01) Release Date 2019-03-18 [...]

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I don't know if they added any new features but there have been 17 firmware releases for the 34450A so it seems they do have an interest in maintaining the firmware and fixing bugs.

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The 'ol 34450A last F/W release was 2019-03-18, how is that current. It's not the number of bugs fixed, although that does say something for the S/W dev and testing process, but just supporting existing products. Let me know if this is an unrealistic expectation.

Digital camera manufacturers, some maintain their firmware for years even adding new features, while other manufacturers don't do much past the product's release.
With me, Keysight will not live down the 34461A initial firmware release where the continuity beeper did not work reliably. For that to sneak through testing was a sad moment for me. There were a lot of bugs corrected over the years something I hate running into in a piece of test equipment. Two years to fix memory leaks. Sorry but I have trouble getting excited about their new product releases, after banging my head with various bugs, pleading with KS to fix them and showing it's not "user error", then dying of old age waiting for the update.

I hope they fixed the cooling fan design howling and wailing like a banshee lol.

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: floobydust on February 23, 2021, 07:31:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: TheSteve on February 23, 2021, 08:07:57 am ---
--- Quote from: floobydust on February 23, 2021, 03:29:31 am ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on February 23, 2021, 02:57:03 am ---People inside Keysight are furiously watching it seems!

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34450A has been around several years? I think the developers are rushed and after the product release, it's not a priority to fix anything nor is there any budget to do this because the project is "finished". The main reason I shy away from purchasing Keysight is they are far too lean on F/W maintenance. 34450A Firmware Update (Revision: 01.03-01.01) Release Date 2019-03-18 [...]

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I don't know if they added any new features but there have been 17 firmware releases for the 34450A so it seems they do have an interest in maintaining the firmware and fixing bugs.

--- End quote ---

The 'ol 34450A last F/W release was 2019-03-18, how is that current. It's not the number of bugs fixed, although that does say something for the S/W dev and testing process, but just supporting existing products. Let me know if this is an unrealistic expectation.

Digital camera manufacturers, some maintain their firmware for years even adding new features, while other manufacturers don't do much past the product's release.
With me, Keysight will not live down the 34461A initial firmware release where the continuity beeper did not work reliably. For that to sneak through testing was a sad moment for me. There were a lot of bugs corrected over the years something I hate running into in a piece of test equipment. Two years to fix memory leaks. Sorry but I have trouble getting excited about their new product releases, after banging my head with various bugs, pleading with KS to fix them and showing it's not "user error", then dying of old age waiting for the update.

I hope they fixed the cooling fan design howling and wailing like a banshee lol.

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You know the old adage, "never buy v1.0 of anything" - it became an adage for a reason! :D

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