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Keysight officially lost the plot - don't buy if you're a hobbyist
Tekjive:
Wow that’s weird, cuz I just watched a YouTube video where some home hacker dude in NYC was given an $18k scope from a Keysight rep to “mod” into some lame monstrous device that added nothing to the scopes functionality, ie: RGB, etc 🥴 ...all for views from “professionals”? Seems on par with some companies lately :/
https://youtu.be/8Veobksi3pI @Feb.21.2021
oz2cpu:
correct 2N3055
my new ks is full of silly numbers :-)
by the way : if anyone know how to hack the memory option code ? please PM me..
adauphin:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on February 21, 2022, 02:27:51 pm ---
Thinking about this... even some older time-honoured HP equipment come with notices that they are for professional use by competent people only.
I dislike over-lawyering as much as the next guy, but perhaps it is simply the case that a product you sell to the average Joe Blow comes with more responsibilities than a product sold for professional / special use cases only? - e.g. remember when McDonald's got sued for their coffee being too hot, and a consumer got badly burned when spilling a cup in their lap.
Imagine how much trouble a n00b can get into with test equipment. Some scumbag lawyer could launch a suit: "My client's house burned down because he was charging LiPos with your power supply. Nowhere in the instruction manual does it mention that this supply cannot be used for charging LiPos. Either the product is deficient, or your documentation - either way, you have to pay for a new house."
All of these kinds of problems are reduced significantly if you sell to professionals / companies only. Now, your defense to the above lawsuit is simply "Your client is in breach of his contract with us, where he claimed he was a trained professional using our product in a professional environment. Any professional would know better than to try and charge LiPo chemistry unattended in this way. If you want to take this to court, we have a long list of professionals willing to attest to that. Don't waste your time and money."
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Crazy how many multimeters there are for sale in every home improvement store, with test probes for probing high voltage.
Has anyone seen how close those little fingers of a kid get to the metal prongs of an electrical cord when they plug something into an outlet?
The fact any store sells plastic wire nuts for securing mains leads and even testers for hot mains is on another level.
I can't believe a hair dryer cord is longer than 6" so it could reach the sink.
Does anyone remove paper clips and any metal object from their home that could accidentally make it into a receptacle?
Imagine the field day lawyers could have with every store and vendor imaginable.
The point of my ramblings, this is complete BS regarding any user of test equipment not taking the responsibility to read the directions of their device.
Since when did humanity have no freaking clue how to operate anything with no lick of common sense? Guess we have to make a blanket policy for everyone.
I'm shocked there hasn't been lawsuits against chewing gum manufacturers since it impairs walking.
We don't make any move to remove cell phones from the hands of people crossing the street with their head down.
rsjsouza:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on February 21, 2022, 02:27:51 pm ---I dislike over-lawyering as much as the next guy, but perhaps it is simply the case that a product you sell to the average Joe Blow comes with more responsibilities than a product sold for professional / special use cases only? - e.g. remember when McDonald's got sued for their coffee being too hot, and a consumer got badly burned when spilling a cup in their lap.
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This is one of the most misinformed stories that circulate around the internet - it was not "over-lawyering".
--- Quote from: adauphin on February 22, 2022, 03:12:33 pm ---Since when did humanity have no freaking clue how to operate anything with no lick of common sense? Guess we have to make a blanket policy for everyone.
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To be honest, when people started replacing ALL real life experiences and interactions with a virtual surrounding where "safety" has to be the absolute gold standard for ALL interactions.
Despite this, the judicial system is not entirely insane yet - I recall some cases where people were using consumer equipment inappropriately and either died or got severe injured but no compensation was granted on the basis of misuse.
adauphin:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on February 21, 2022, 02:27:51 pm --- I recall some cases where people were using consumer equipment inappropriately and either died or got severe injured but no compensation was granted on the basis of misuse.
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That can be said about almost every piece of consumer equipment.
So I can use a blender but cannot supply 5V DC to a simple circuit...got it.
Why does Keysight also have an issue with me probing an arduino circuit with my kid so he can learn about electronics?!?!?!
There's ZERO excuse for this. If they want to sell to a business, they can put their products on a site where only the "business" clients can view and purchase.
Otherwise, I'd rather not have their products populate my search while looking to purchase from a company who actually wants business.
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