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| Keysight officially lost the plot - don't buy if you're a hobbyist |
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| james_s:
--- Quote from: Grandchuck on February 22, 2022, 06:22:16 pm ---The illusion of safety could make drivers worse: https://www.thedrive.com/article/13378/driver-aids-may-create-worse-drivers-report-says https://www.wired.com/2011/07/active-safety-systems-could-create-passive-drivers/ --- End quote --- I think it absolutely makes things worse. All of these driver assist features make people reliant on the technology. Rather than making driving safer, they simply enable people to focus their attention on other things, like playing with their mobile phone. It is a well known fact that when you take away the need to focus on something, the brain finds something else to focus on. It's exactly why trains have a feature that makes the engineer respond to something and press a button regularly. Cars would be safer with everything manual, requiring the driver's full attention to operate the vehicle. |
| maglin78:
I'm glad this came back up. I'll not purchase from Keysight nor will I recommend them to any employer. We are looking to spend about $1M to revamp our test equipment and I will make sure we don't support them. I'm in the US Air Force and something similar happened about 20 years ago. Working on B52's we used all Snap-On tools and tool boxes. I'm talking about several million in Snap-On tools. We used a VW brake adjuster to close engine cowling and broke them often. It was a $12 tool. Our local rep had gotten comfortable and started declining the replacement of these tools. Granted they where indeed being misused and he never gave an alternative tool to use. He also started declining replacements the same year we was looking to completely replace our tools. My buddy was a MAC rep and we dropped Snap-On and spent $2.5 million with MAC. Then vehicle maintenance was informed about our dealing with Snap-On and they also spent $1.5 million with MAC the same year. The MAC dealer bent over backwards for us for years until I left and I'm sure he still is today. That deal got him a very nice new house and car's and tool truck. If Keysight was always a B2B company I would not care, but they make products for consumers as evidenced by their low end products that market to non business. Then refusing to deal with your customers that you obviously targeted? It's crazy to me. I'm sure this decision will have effects for years to come, but I don't see it killing the company. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: maglin78 on March 30, 2022, 05:51:52 pm ---If Keysight was always a B2B company I would not care, but they make products for consumers as evidenced by their low end products that market to non business. --- End quote --- No, the lower end products are clearly for the educational market which is quite large. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 30, 2022, 08:28:22 pm --- --- Quote from: maglin78 on March 30, 2022, 05:51:52 pm ---If Keysight was always a B2B company I would not care, but they make products for consumers as evidenced by their low end products that market to non business. --- End quote --- No, the lower end products are clearly for the educational market which is quite large. --- End quote --- I was wondering about that statement. Does he think the low end scopes are for consumers, or is he thinking of the HP products which are truly mixed business and consumer ones, like printers. Low end instruments are not just for education. When you talk to the sales people for low end instruments they are always searching for production facilities, because they get big sales there, |
| Nominal Animal:
The distinction between "Educational" and "Hobby" is academic, at best. Pushing tools not sold to private individuals as "Educational" stinks of bait-and-switch trickery to me. |
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