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Keysight officially lost the plot - don't buy if you're a hobbyist

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Someone:

--- Quote from: tautech on March 31, 2022, 12:57:53 am ---Oh for heavens sakes …. Farnell and E14 need boycotting too until they come to their senses.
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Many suppliers used to be trade only, but got sucked in by the lure of automation making small/consumer sales profitable. They're now remembering why they didn't do small sales and going back to the old days. Be happy you got access to their supply chain while you did (thinking here to the threads complaining about minimum order sizes for free shipping....).

nctnico:

--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on March 31, 2022, 12:55:49 am ---Point being, Keysight is not telling us the reason they don't want to sell (at higher prices) to hobbyists and other private consumers.)

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Try buying a piece of test equipment from R&S, Lecroy, Tektronix, etc directly as a hobbyist. You won't be able to. Even a small business won't be able to. They'll all refer you to a dealer. You can buy any piece of test equipment you like as a hobbyist just fine from a reseller that sells to individuals. There are plenty of those around!

Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: nctnico on March 31, 2022, 01:11:36 am ---
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on March 31, 2022, 12:55:49 am ---Point being, Keysight is not telling us the reason they don't want to sell (at higher prices) to hobbyists and other private consumers.)

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Try buying a piece of test equipment from R&S, Lecroy, Tektronix, etc directly as a hobbyist. You won't be able to. Even a small business won't be able to. They'll all refer you to a dealer.
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So? Their answer is exactly the same for a small University or vocational school trying to buy a few scopes, as it is to a private hobbyist or a small company.  Keysight stands out by their behaviour here.  What is your point?

nctnico:

--- Quote from: SMB784 on March 30, 2022, 11:04:52 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 30, 2022, 09:40:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on March 30, 2022, 09:34:52 pm ---The distinction between "Educational" and "Hobby" is academic, at best.

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No, not at all. The educational market are schools and universities that buy low cost test equipment in bulk to outfit student labs. There is nothing 'hobby' about that.

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Having worked in an academic environment at the second largest university in the US for nearly a decade years, this is mostly wrong.

I can think of only once that a bulk purchase of entry level test equipment was done, and that was when they opened the new engineering building near the end of my time there and kitted out a couple teaching labs with scopes, meters, & power supplies.

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That is only one university. There are hundreds of schools and universities in a reasonably sized country and all of those replace equipment in their labs every X years. A few years ago a large educational center in the US went bankcrupt and Ebay got flooded with test equipment for months.

nctnico:

--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on March 31, 2022, 01:27:08 am ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 31, 2022, 01:11:36 am ---
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on March 31, 2022, 12:55:49 am ---Point being, Keysight is not telling us the reason they don't want to sell (at higher prices) to hobbyists and other private consumers.)

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Try buying a piece of test equipment from R&S, Lecroy, Tektronix, etc directly as a hobbyist. You won't be able to. Even a small business won't be able to. They'll all refer you to a dealer.
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So? Their answer is exactly the same for a small University or vocational school trying to buy a few scopes, as it is to a private hobbyist or a small company.  Keysight stands out by their behaviour here.  What is your point?

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My point is people should quit whining because Keysight's behaviour doesn't stand out at all. If you do a little bit of research, you can easely find out for yourself.

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