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Products => Test Equipment => Topic started by: HighVoltage on July 06, 2022, 10:39:17 am

Title: KEYSIGHT scopes WISHLIST for future firmware updates
Post by: HighVoltage on July 06, 2022, 10:39:17 am
Thank you Keysight for making such great scopes.

However, I have a few items on my wish list for future Firmware updates.
Maybe others have some wishes in mind as well.


1. Remove Serial Number from Screenshot
Why is that serial number in the screenshot to begin with?
I don't want my customers to see that number!
Same with the scopes model number and firmware version, why would I want to have it there?

I have to write lots of reports and it is so convenient and beautiful to include a scope screenshot.
But Keysight adds the Model and Serial number to each screenshot on the top, so I have to take it manually out with a picture editing program. (Hassle and time)

Please give us an option in the settings, of what we would like to include in the screenshot like this:
□ Model Number
□ Firmware Number
□ Date
□ Time
□ Serial Number
□ Custom Text: "    "
□ File Name: "    "

Or, if this is too complicated, just leave the serial number and model number out of the screenshot.


2. Date and Time
In the settings, I can set the clock based on 24h system
But on the screen I always have AM/PM and American date format
Please let us choose 12h or 24h clock and international Date
I would like to set it to such example:
17:45
6.7.2022

And why squeez the time in between the date on top of the screenshot
And why the name of the weekday?


3. Quick Measurements
There is such a great feature of quick measurement.
But I can not do anything with that screen.
I would like to save such a screen as a graphics file to USB
At least in the touch screen scopes that should be easily implemented.

Thanks Keysight, for implementing such feature.




Title: Re: Keysight scopes WISHLIST for future firmware updates
Post by: Martin72 on July 06, 2022, 10:47:59 am
On lecroy scopes you got the choice to "print" whole screen or grid area only and with watermark or not.
Would be a nice feature for the keysight too.
Title: Re: KEYSIGHT scopes WISHLIST for future firmware updates
Post by: TheSteve on July 06, 2022, 03:38:24 pm
Grab the screen shot from the web interface - I don't believe it will then include the model/serial.
Title: Re: KEYSIGHT scopes WISHLIST for future firmware updates
Post by: HighVoltage on July 06, 2022, 04:06:23 pm
Grab the screen shot from the web interface - I don't believe it will then include the model/serial.

As far as I know, all DSO-X and MSO-X series scopes also do this when you use the web interface.
I just tested this on a 3000X scope (DSO-X 3034A)
See attachments

I even tried BenchVue and it transports the Model Number and Serial Number as well.
On some models it transfers the Firmware version but not on all.

I think transferring the firmware version as well to the screenshot was an "improvement" on the touch models.  :-DD
Title: Re: KEYSIGHT scopes WISHLIST for future firmware updates
Post by: pqass on July 06, 2022, 04:19:39 pm
You could just run this one line script:

Code: [Select]
convert /tmp/Web-Screen-Saved.png -chop 0x23 /tmp/Web-Screen-Saved-Clipped.png

I've attached a sample output based on your original image.

See: https://imagemagick.org/ (https://imagemagick.org/)



Title: Re: KEYSIGHT scopes WISHLIST for future firmware updates
Post by: MarkL on July 06, 2022, 09:30:54 pm
Here's another ImageMagick incantation, but this one preserves the model and date on the top line.  It draws a white box over top the serial number.  The top line is not using a fixed wdith font, so you might have to play with the box starting and ending corners.  The following works for the DSO-X 3034A previously posted:

  convert original.png -fill white -draw "rectangle 73,0 156,22" blank_sn.png

I have an MSO-X3104A, and the rectangle has a slightly different X position.  Here's the script I use called "mso-blank-sn" (overwrites the original png):
Code: [Select]
#!/bin/bash

# blank serial number from top of png images

for i; do
  convert "$i" -fill white -draw "rectangle 77,0 159,22" "$i"
done

exit 0


On my wish list is having more than one "Quick Action".  Maybe a double press on "Quick Action" can bring up a menu of other choices that can also be configured.  And for extra bonus points, the choices could be configured to execute an arbitrary list of SCPI commands.

I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: KEYSIGHT scopes WISHLIST for future firmware updates
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on July 06, 2022, 10:21:38 pm

I don't want my customers to see that number!

Why not ?
I can see that some customers would want it for traceability, though would be no big deal to make it switchable
Title: Re: KEYSIGHT scopes WISHLIST for future firmware updates
Post by: HighVoltage on July 07, 2022, 07:48:28 am

I don't want my customers to see that number!

Why not ?
I can see that some customers would want it for traceability, though would be no big deal to make it switchable

You are right, for some customers I even have to include a calibration report of all instruments used in a project, for full traceability.

However, for some other customers I keep the information of how I do things to a minimum. And here I would like to have the ability to turn that extra info off.


@MarkL and @pqass
Thanks, I will try that out, it looks promising.
Title: Re: KEYSIGHT scopes WISHLIST for future firmware updates
Post by: Pinkus on July 07, 2022, 11:16:44 am
I have never understood why the serial number has to be in the header. I often make documentations and I have to delete this line again and again for all shots. What a lot of precious time that has wasted!
Why there is no user option to turn this line on/off is beyond me, especially since I know a lot of users who find it annoying. I rather would like to have a editable comment field which shows at the top of the screenshot.

I also second the other two wishes HighVoltage did mention - but the first one is the most annoying.
Title: Re: KEYSIGHT scopes WISHLIST for future firmware updates
Post by: Anthocyanina on July 07, 2022, 02:39:06 pm
I would love for those suggestions to be implemented. I'm thinking of another one which would be a really good quality of life improvement as well, adding a "change trigger source" option to the quick action key. It could toggle trigger source on every channel, and it would feel much faster than going through the 4 button presses that involves, at least in the 1000x series, three different buttons :scared:
Title: Re: KEYSIGHT scopes WISHLIST for future firmware updates
Post by: HighVoltage on July 08, 2022, 09:29:20 am
Many times I have a USB keyboard hooked up to the scope for faster data entry.
On the keyboard we can already use F5 (Run) and F6 (stop) F10 (Single) and it works really well.

How about an option setting, where we can assign a scopes function to each of the keyboards function keys F1 to F12?