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Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« on: August 09, 2024, 08:11:55 pm »
Hi,
do you know where can I find a label printer where prints small labels for cables like these in the below image. Also, these label don't fade/erase with Isopropyl Alcohol like the stickers from Dymo printer that I have. These stickers are a kind of glossy stickers that the printed letters resist in Isopropyl Alcohol.
 

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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2024, 08:27:11 pm »
Gurgle: Heat Shrink printer
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2024, 08:34:38 pm »
Gurgle: Heat Shrink printer

Thanks for your reply but I don't think that these heatshrinks will fit in my cables. My cables have diameter of 0.5mm, so only stickers I could use on them.
 

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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2024, 08:45:27 pm »
Brother Label Printer for TZe tapes...
We have one of these in the test field for cable labeling.
The P-Touch software even has a template for this.
https://www.brother.de/etiketten-und-belegdrucker/p-touch-beschriftungsgeraete
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2024, 08:46:30 pm »
Gurgle: Heat Shrink printer

Thanks for your reply but I don't think that these heatshrinks will fit in my cables. My cables have diameter of 0.5mm, so only stickers I could use on them.

There's crossover between heat shrink printers and cable label printers. This might help you: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08SLMHV8K/
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2024, 08:49:39 pm »
I don't know what they are called.  But:
At work we used what looked like white heat shrink (but they don't shrink) that a wire ran through which had the text printed on the outside.  I don't remember the ink coming off with IPA.  Maybe someone knows what they are called.

 
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2024, 09:14:07 pm »
Gurgle: Heat Shrink printer

Thanks for your reply but I don't think that these heatshrinks will fit in my cables. My cables have diameter of 0.5mm, so only stickers I could use on them.

There's crossover between heat shrink printers and cable label printers. This might help you: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08SLMHV8K/

We use Tyco heat shrink printers at work, the thermal print does however wear off with the cleaners we use, it's all too expensive for hobby use.
https://www.te.com/en/products/identification-labeling/printers-software-and-accessories/printers.html?tab=pgp-story

The older version of the printer isn't very robust either, the plastic prongs that lock the printhead down broke very quickly, they changed them under warranty with modified version, that finally broke last year, but can still be used if you press the mechanism down while printing. No idea if they improved this since.
We did get a replacement printer, but none of the highly paid idiots in the office thought about getting the required newer software to use it.

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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2024, 10:13:19 pm »
I found the below

BROTHER TZE-211
Label Printer Tape, Adhesive-Laminated, Black on White, 8 m x 6 mm
https://my.element14.com/brother/tze-211/tape-black-on-white-6mm-w-8m-l/dp/603351

As it writes these tapes are: High quality Brother Genuine Supplies Tested to be resistant to fading, water, chemicals, abrasion and temperature extremes, so I beleive will do for the use that I want.
https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/2819962.pdf



BROTHER PT-P700
https://my.element14.com/brother/pt-p700/pc-labelling-machine-24mm/dp/2523102
 

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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2024, 10:21:37 pm »
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High quality Brother Genuine Supplies Tested to be resistant to fading, water, chemicals, abrasion and temperature extremes,

I can confirm this, we use it to mark programmed chips, among other things.
After checking the circuit boards with these chips on them, they are painted for insulation reasons.
The paint does not attack the writing.
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2024, 11:25:38 pm »
Hi,
do you know where can I find a label printer where prints small labels for cables like these in the below image. Also, these label don't fade/erase with Isopropyl Alcohol like the stickers from Dymo printer that I have. These stickers are a kind of glossy stickers that the printed letters resist in Isopropyl Alcohol.
Just regular Brother TZe tapes work great for flags.   Brother expressly recommends the Flexible ID tapes for flags, too. See page 8 of their durability guide: https://www.brother.eu/-/media/product-downloads/devices/nordics/eu_en/labelling-machines/2022-tze-tapes-booklet-160-x-227mm_eng_web.pdf

If you want to print labels that wrap around the wire instead, make sure to get the “flexible ID” tape from Brother. The regular one will eventually uncurl itself. (This is just a general suggestion; this wire is too thin to wrap.)

I HIGHLY suggest spending the money for one of the Brother models made specifically for electrical work (the orange ones). They cost more, but have really useful cable and terminal labeling functions that the cheap office models lack. And they support the heat shrink tubing. (For very small wires, you can always “bulk up” the wire first with some other heat shrink, then put the printed heat shrink over it.)
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2024, 11:27:26 pm »
+1 to this.
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2024, 07:05:38 am »
I've used Epson Labelworks tapes (similar to the Brother TZe tapes) to label wires as small as 34awg (0.16mm) in a "flag" style.  The PC software has a template for printing the flags on both sides, with an optional fold-line to help line up the center of the label on the wire.
 
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2024, 02:42:24 pm »
This is not cheap but it will do nice jobs for wires marking including the heat shrink type.
https://www.wago.com/us/marking/thermal-transfer-printer/p/258-5107

This will do the labels like the ones in the OP pictures
https://www.bradyid.com/label-printers/portable/m210-handheld-label-maker-pid-152260?s_kwcid=AL!10720!3!254373790220!!!g!325425753764!&cid=ppc&camp=ppc-us-nonbrand-google.com-shopping-catch_all-54211599482-M210&cid=ppc&s_kwcid=AL!10720!3!254373790220!!!g!325425753764!&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwuG1BhCnARIsAFWBUC0nbRXs9L0k5lW4YSaBeSa_xv7adUORp5bnAJVHrr8-feW1osyyj1YaAvuTEALw_wcB
 
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2024, 03:26:17 pm »
I have tried the Dymo Rhino (industrial) tapes and Brother Tze industrial, and prefer the Brother. I have not tried others like Brady, nor labelers for general home/office use. Users may see the industrial products cost more, I think there is a reason. I have small bottles of alcohols with Dymo Rhino labels and have not seen any wear.

Be very careful about the tape material and adhesive descriptions, there are many. Some are meant to be removable, some permanent, some permanent for rough surfaces. There's vinyl, poylester, maybe others.

I have less problems with "flags" as shown by OP, but even the Brother tape recommended for wraparound cable marking has sometimes unfurled on me after a few years. Some people will put clear heatshrink over it, but that requires the cable end being free.

The printable heatshrink seems pretty expensive to me, I haven't tried it to test the durability. It also has limited sizes and colors.

Dymo Rhino thermal prints onto the top of the tape, where Brother Tze prints onto an intermediate layer which gets covered with another layer for protection, making it more wear resistant, and shinier. It's somewhat easier to rub off Dymo Rhino labels.
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2024, 03:47:02 pm »
This is not cheap but it will do nice jobs for wires marking including the heat shrink type.
https://www.wago.com/us/marking/thermal-transfer-printer/p/258-5107

This will do the labels like the ones in the OP pictures
https://www.bradyid.com/label-printers/portable/m210-handheld-label-maker-pid-152260?s_kwcid=AL!10720!3!254373790220!!!g!325425753764!&cid=ppc&camp=ppc-us-nonbrand-google.com-shopping-catch_all-54211599482-M210&cid=ppc&s_kwcid=AL!10720!3!254373790220!!!g!325425753764!&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwuG1BhCnARIsAFWBUC0nbRXs9L0k5lW4YSaBeSa_xv7adUORp5bnAJVHrr8-feW1osyyj1YaAvuTEALw_wcB
The BRady M610 is more suitable IMHO as this can print labels with an adhesive tail.

See here: https://www.bradyid.com/wire-cable-labels/flags

I've seen these used for a project I'm involved in and these labels work very well on thin wiring.

In my experience the Brother / Dymo labels are less suitable for marking wires as the glue tends to let go.
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2024, 04:01:28 pm »
By the way... these stickers in my picture I beleive that must be done from a custom printing because they don't have 90degree angle (yellow circles) at the ends and all the printers that I have found cut with 90degree angles at the ends.

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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2024, 04:51:15 pm »
My Epson LabelWorks printer has a built-in "corner trimmer" for optionally cutting round corners after the label is printed.  You just insert each corner into a slot, and it nips that corner.  It does seem to reduce the likelihood of labels peeling loose.

So anyway, rounded corners don't necessarily mean custom printing.
 
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2024, 05:18:13 pm »
My Epson LabelWorks printer has a built-in "corner trimmer" for optionally cutting round corners after the label is printed.  You just insert each corner into a slot, and it nips that corner.  It does seem to reduce the likelihood of labels peeling loose.

So anyway, rounded corners don't necessarily mean custom printing.

Does anyone knows if brother have this feature?
 

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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2024, 07:35:34 pm »
I think they have normal blades, so they cut straight.
I'll put a label on an AWG 30 wire tomorrow to see if it's easy.
I have never had any problems with the adhesion of TZe tapes, as always it depends on the surface how (long) something sticks.
I would also like to have the orange industrial Brother for work, but the "old" one would have to fall off somehow or something...
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2024, 07:50:01 pm »
I like my Brother PTH-111, that's the most basic model that still does cable flags and electrical symbols.
 
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2024, 08:24:32 pm »
I just use scissors to trim cable flags after applying them. Usually you never get the flag perfectly straight when sticking it to itself, so a manual trim after applying cleans up the flag.

Also, it's impossible to control the blank spacing on most printers, so some manual trimming is called for.
 
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2024, 09:37:16 pm »
I have Brother PT-E550WVP.
Very reliable and original labels are excellent.
You have thermal shrink tubing also.

There are also non-original labels if you don't need best quality.

Great product.
 
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2024, 09:43:08 pm »
By the way... these stickers in my picture I beleive that must be done from a custom printing because they don't have 90degree angle (yellow circles) at the ends and all the printers that I have found cut with 90degree angles at the ends.

P.S. Many thanks to all of you for your helpful replies.
Looks to me like those might even have been done on a dot-matrix printer!

Anyway, those are probably just normal rectangular polyester labels, of the kind bought by the sheet that you put into a regular desktop printer.
 
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2024, 08:49:19 pm »
Finally, I bought the Brother P-touch PT-P700 and the labels are indeed chemical resistant (at least in Isopropyl Alcohol and lighter fluid). The software is very versatile and it has many wizard labels for different applications. The only downside for me is that I can't print a label/sticker with length smaller than 25mm with auto cutting (I don't know if this can do it another model of Brother... if anyone knows please write it).

Thanks all of you for you opinions... I am very pleased with this purchase.
 
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Re: Label Printer For Small Stickers For Small Cables
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2024, 09:08:22 pm »
I mostly buy the cheap knockoff TZe cartridges for more temporary label jobs, and even those handle the sanitizing dishwasher, outdoors, extra cold freezer, etc. very well. Held to a flame the label will shrivel and melt before it discolors or fades.
 
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