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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2019, 06:48:17 pm »
Edit: oh look a power supply...



Now that's the one that bugs me... PSUs with crap UIs. Screens crammed with numbers, keypads, arrow keys, etc.

Give me coarse, fine voltage and current limit knobs, simple voltage and current readouts, and well behaved regulation instead!


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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2019, 04:33:47 am »
Some people would like all the information on that power's supply screen and more buttons  , including myself , I don't think this has anything to do with that crappy oscilloscope and the "thinking" behind it ...
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2019, 02:53:32 pm »
Why it so deep? Is it to provide compatibility by dimensions with analog  scopes?  :-//

It's tall. If it were also shallow, it would fall over :)
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2019, 11:08:12 pm »
Cute. If it was 50$ with free shipping I'd get one just for giggles. It's adorable.

I might have to get one for shits and giggles  ;D
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2019, 11:11:03 pm »
If they made it 100MHz/1GHz, like the old Tek TDS200 series, and it was that current US$150 price, there might be a niche market for such a slim benchtop single channel scope.
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2019, 11:12:04 pm »
If they made it 100MHz/1GHz, like the old Tek TDS200 series, and it was that current US$150 price, there might be a niche market for such a slim benchtop single channel scope.

Wait, I just realised it doesn't have a single shot mode?  :palm:
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2019, 11:22:36 pm »
If it were a TDS200 class unit even if only 50 megs I’d have bought it. But it’s not. It’s poo.

I really like the form factor. It’s like the old Japanese scopes.
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2019, 11:30:33 pm »
I wonder how it will work in X-Y mode?  Spec says up to 1MHz on both channel but what about the refresh cycle?  If that's good enough, I may actually have a use for it.
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2019, 11:37:22 pm »
They've missed off the focus, astigmatism and beam finder controls. :horse:
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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2019, 12:38:57 am »
If they made it 100MHz/1GHz, like the old Tek TDS200 series, and it was that current US$150 price, there might be a niche market for such a slim benchtop single channel scope.

Wait, I just realised it doesn't have a single shot mode?  :palm:
Which one would imagine will reverse your previous interest:
Cute. If it was 50$ with free shipping I'd get one just for giggles. It's adorable.

I might have to get one for shits and giggles  ;D
Yep, for a DSO not to have Single triggering is just plain dumb !  :--
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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2019, 12:57:30 am »
I think it's just plain stupid. If you want an analog scope, buy an analog scope. And if it's broke, learn to fix it.
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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2019, 01:06:08 am »
If it were a TDS200 class unit even if only 50 megs I’d have bought it. But it’s not. It’s poo.

I really like the form factor. It’s like the old Japanese scopes.

No, the form factor is like the old Heathkit scopes.  :-DD

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2019, 02:32:33 am »
It's a silly scope.   :-BROKE ::)
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2019, 03:03:35 am »
I don't think this has anything to do with that crappy oscilloscope and the "thinking" behind it ...

Compare the Power Supply's case to the Oscilloscope's case.  They re-used the mechanical design of the power supply case to make the oscilloscope.  They produced a new control panel, but the position of the screen, the layout of the ridges on the sides of the screen and below the screen, are identical.
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2019, 05:22:56 am »
I don't think this has anything to do with that crappy oscilloscope and the "thinking" behind it ...

Compare the Power Supply's case to the Oscilloscope's case.  They re-used the mechanical design of the power supply case to make the oscilloscope.  They produced a new control panel, but the position of the screen, the layout of the ridges on the sides of the screen and below the screen, are identical.

It'd be interesting to know how quickly they knocked out this design...
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #40 on: September 11, 2019, 11:20:21 am »
I think that Tektronix TDS2000 and its derivatives are standard school scopes for years.
Yes, it is basic, but OK for school.
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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #41 on: September 11, 2019, 11:26:41 am »
I want it with a round screen! Round, like "real" CRTs. Please, Owon, would you make one with one of these smart watch TFTs?!  :P  >:D
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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2020, 06:06:21 pm »
Martin Lorton has just released a video:
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2020, 06:15:40 pm »
I only skipped through the video quickly but that's not a bad little scope. It's a digital analogue scope basically! If it was 25% cheaper I'd probably buy one :-DD
 
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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2020, 01:54:47 am »
I picked up one of the Owon handheld scopes for under $100 a while back and would consider it far more useful.  Martin mentions the fast bootup time for the AS101, but I think being able to hit an auto button on a DSO eliminates that advantage.
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2020, 03:30:44 am »
Their reasoning was that they where easier to teach.
translation : the teachers didn't have to learn anything newer ...
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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2020, 03:52:09 pm »
Their reasoning was that they where easier to teach.
translation : the teachers didn't have to learn anything newer ...

It seems a reasonable argument, that by removing extraneous functions you get the students to focus on the basics and not ask questions about "luxury features" that mainly benefit experienced users?
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2020, 04:14:38 pm »
Didn't owon use to make CRT scopes in that form factor?
it wouldn't surprise me if that was the exact same scope, just with a different video board
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2020, 05:01:02 pm »
You are all missing the point about the form factor - the students can't readily stick one under their jackets and walk off with them.
 

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Re: Latest innovation by Owon: AS101
« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2020, 06:43:41 pm »
I was noticing refresh rate on XY feature was rather impressive.  Maybe that alone justifies purchasing one.  I can't get anywhere near that on my digital scopes.

Besides that, I really don't see a point.  Folks who are proficient on analog scope will have very shallow learning curve going to digital.  Folks who never touched analog one won't have issue adopting simpler digital kind either.
 


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