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Offline james_s

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #150 on: May 21, 2019, 02:00:44 am »
Yes I think mine is a series III, I'm not home at the moment so I can't check. The differences are a bit annoying, one would think that each series would be an incremental improvement over the last.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #151 on: May 21, 2019, 02:11:52 am »
2018 and still no replacement for the venerable 87...

It's still the industry standard, still selling like hot cakes, why would they replace it?
I started suggesting the U1272A instead of the 87V a long time ago.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #152 on: May 21, 2019, 02:47:08 am »
I started suggesting the U1272A instead of the 87V a long time ago.

Even more expensive!

The Brymen BM869S is about 200 euros.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #153 on: May 21, 2019, 03:44:17 am »
I started suggesting the U1272A instead of the 87V a long time ago.

Even more expensive!

The Brymen BM869S is about 200 euros.
I agree on the Brymens, but the U127x family is also really nice and has many useful features that, at least for me, tip the scale towards it: smart Ω, Low Z, reversible continuity test (NO or NC) and different trigger modes for logging.

Years ago one of the former members did a very thorough review of the BM869 and at times compared it to the U1272 and the 28II - quite interesting.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/brymen-bm869-review-by-the-eye-of-the-industrial-electrician/
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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #154 on: May 21, 2019, 05:23:21 am »
No one likes FlukeConnect?   I think its rather nice.   Eliminates the need for any of those opto coupled USB cabling.  I think the next 87V (87VI?) should have FlukeConnect (I think its FlukeConnect2 now).


 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #155 on: May 21, 2019, 06:09:21 am »
Even the 287 and 289  need a redo  loll   a 87 VI  would be needed loll

yeah  it would be nice to have wireless communications / bluetooth ...    away the usb cable.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #156 on: May 21, 2019, 06:13:23 am »
I started suggesting the U1272A instead of the 87V a long time ago.

Even more expensive!

The Brymen BM869S is about 200 euros.
The U1272A  is about 350 EUR while the 87V is about 500. So it is cheaper.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #157 on: May 21, 2019, 09:54:25 am »
I started suggesting the U1272A instead of the 87V a long time ago.

Even more expensive!

The Brymen BM869S is about 200 euros.
The U1272A  is about 350 EUR while the 87V is about 500. So it is cheaper.

You can't buy a Brymen 869s here in the U.S. (although available through oversease resellers... and no warranty).
It looks like the Keysight 127xa and 128xa series are all discontinued now, at least it appears so in the U.S.
https://www.tequipment.net/AgilentU1272A.html?v=0

So you have to buy the Greenlee dm860a for $314.32 or a Fluke 87v for $386.99, a $72 difference.
https://www.tequipment.net/Greenlee/DM-860A/Multimeters/
https://www.tequipment.net/FlukeDigital87VMultimeter.html?search=true


 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #158 on: May 21, 2019, 09:20:42 pm »
I started suggesting the U1272A instead of the 87V a long time ago.

Even more expensive!

The Brymen BM869S is about 200 euros.
The U1272A  is about 350 EUR while the 87V is about 500. So it is cheaper.

You can't buy a Brymen 869s here in the U.S. (although available through oversease resellers... and no warranty).
It looks like the Keysight 127xa and 128xa series are all discontinued now, at least it appears so in the U.S.
https://www.tequipment.net/AgilentU1272A.html?v=0

So you have to buy the Greenlee dm860a for $314.32 or a Fluke 87v for $386.99, a $72 difference.
https://www.tequipment.net/Greenlee/DM-860A/Multimeters/
https://www.tequipment.net/FlukeDigital87VMultimeter.html?search=true
Or they dont have calibration plan for example. Which doesnt matter for home users, but it does when it comes to these kind of equipment. So you cannot compare a Fluke 87V to a Brymen based on the features, because it will fail on these basic business requirements.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #159 on: May 21, 2019, 09:38:11 pm »
My Fluke 87V has a revision 13 PCB and from memory in Dave's video his Fluke 87V had a revision 9 PCB , Which shows Fluke still tinker with the meter.
If you want more functionality get a Fluke 289 if you want wireless connectivity get a Fluke 3000 series.

The 87 has stood the test of time and I say leave well alone.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #160 on: May 21, 2019, 10:12:06 pm »
My Fluke 87V has a revision 13 PCB and from memory in Dave's video his Fluke 87V had a revision 9 PCB , Which shows Fluke still tinker with the meter.
If you want more functionality get a Fluke 289 if you want wireless connectivity get a Fluke 3000 series.

The 87 has stood the test of time and I say leave well alone.
Our pet Canadian has demonstrated a few times that tinkering with a product can simply mean cost optimising to the point you can no longer get away with it. It unfortunately often tends to be, especially with companies which buy up well known names. I should mention I'm not aware of this currently going on at Fluke.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #161 on: May 21, 2019, 10:21:15 pm »
I started suggesting the U1272A instead of the 87V a long time ago.

Even more expensive!

The Brymen BM869S is about 200 euros.
The U1272A  is about 350 EUR while the 87V is about 500. So it is cheaper.

You can't buy a Brymen 869s here in the U.S. (although available through oversease resellers... and no warranty).
It looks like the Keysight 127xa and 128xa series are all discontinued now, at least it appears so in the U.S.
https://www.tequipment.net/AgilentU1272A.html?v=0

These meter families are still active.

This is TEquipment being terribly disingenuous with their practices. They mark something as "discontinued" from their website when, in fact, it is not carried by them anymore. That happens also with Siglent products.

Yeah, they could justify this as the product being "discontinued " only from their product line, but this term is not used in this sense by anyone else in the marketplace - everybody else uses "non-stock" or a variant of that.
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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #162 on: May 21, 2019, 10:24:46 pm »
My Fluke 87V has a revision 13 PCB and from memory in Dave's video his Fluke 87V had a revision 9 PCB , Which shows Fluke still tinker with the meter.

Were those revisions done to improve it or to cut costs?
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #163 on: May 21, 2019, 11:32:05 pm »
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Were those revisions done to improve it or to cut costs?

possibly both. One 87 failed Joe Smith's test and others have suffered from RF interference which they improved /fixed.

If they found ways to cut costs, good on them because their warranty hasn't change.   
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #164 on: May 22, 2019, 07:32:35 am »
You can't buy a Brymen 869s here in the U.S. (although available through oversease resellers... and no warranty).
It looks like the Keysight 127xa and 128xa series are all discontinued now, at least it appears so in the U.S.
https://www.tequipment.net/AgilentU1272A.html?v=0

These meter families are still active.

This is TEquipment being terribly disingenuous with their practices. They mark something as "discontinued" from their website when, in fact, it is not carried by them anymore. That happens also with Siglent products.

Yeah, they could justify this as the product being "discontinued " only from their product line, but this term is not used in this sense by anyone else in the marketplace - everybody else uses "non-stock" or a variant of that.

I've been checking and it seems Keysight multimeters are no longer sold through dealers, but only from a handful of Distributors directly, in the U.S. 
They all have the same price, $394 for a Keysight U1272A, pricier than an 87V. 
I'd have to imagine they sell maybe one U1272A for every 100 87V sold. 


 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #165 on: May 22, 2019, 11:45:39 am »
I suspect you may be right regarding the sales volume, but their reseller selection is quite varied: 12 in their page for US.
https://www.keysight.com/main/partnerfinder.jspx?N=207358+187629&Ns=prodAvailability%7C0%7C%7CpartnerName%7C0&pageMode=RS&cc=US&lc=eng&nid=-32044.1242727
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