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Offline AnsonTopic starter

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Mastech MS5308 Question
« on: July 26, 2013, 12:50:47 am »
I just got my Mastech MS5308 LCR Meter and I am a bit confused. From what I have read most ESR meters test using a 100khz signal to allow in-circuit testing of caps right? Well I ma trying to use this meter set on capacitance and esr mode at 100khz and I am getting nearly always OL. And sometimes getting a reading that is very low value even on higher value caps. If I change the test frequency to 100 or 120hz many times I get a reading of 3.3 to 3.6mf. I am not sure what is going on. 
 

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Re: Mastech MS5308 Question
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 01:55:33 am »
Most LCR meters can't do in-circuit tests. The Mastech has a test voltage of 500mV peak to peak, which can cause false readings due to turning on transistors, most testers capable of in-circuit readings are around 100mV. Keep in mind none of the in-circuit meters are particularly accurate either.
 

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Mastech MS5308 Question
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 02:03:51 am »
On 100khz test voltage is lower, you can check with the scope.
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Re: Mastech MS5308 Question
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2013, 08:28:46 am »
Measuring capacitance in circuit is not going to be accurate. ESR is usually slightly better, since you're only looking at orders of magnitude increases in ESR.
 

Offline AnsonTopic starter

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Re: Mastech MS5308 Question
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2013, 02:50:30 pm »
Ok makes sense. So in circuit testing I should only pay attention too the ESR reading. Should I always test in circuit at 100khz?

Also a few other silly questions. When would you use DCR? What is wastage factor or D? And what is quality factor or Q? I guess I'll ask about phase angle also when does that come into play?
 

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Re: Mastech MS5308 Question
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 04:01:54 pm »
Download the Agilent impedance measurement handbook don't worry about getting all the math just try to get the basics from it.

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Re: Mastech MS5308 Question
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 06:14:00 pm »
Thanks! Just what I was looking for.  :-+
 


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