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Micsig scopes and segmented memory
ptluis:
--- Quote from: DaneLaw on October 09, 2023, 01:15:32 pm ---
--- Quote from: ptluis on October 09, 2023, 10:45:15 am ---
--- Quote from: maralb on October 09, 2023, 08:09:07 am ---The TO2004 would be my choice too for the same reason.
https://eleshop.eu/micsig-oscilloscopes.html
https://www.batronix.com/shop/micsig/TO.html
I think you can't go wrong with these shops.
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Thank you!
Batronix are selling a TO2004 PLUS? Micsig doesn't have a plus model! What version is this? do you know?
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Its a model with a single incl. battery... (scope with 1 battery)
take the batronix "plus" with a pinch of salt.. all models are "plus" as in a Micsig scope with its corresponding 1x battery.
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Ok thanks
ptluis:
Here it is the official response from Micsig
DaneLaw:
As explained the "Plus" signifies a battery.. and seems to be third-party Chananagang
Maybe a dated term from when some were sold without batteries.
All Batronix Micsig-models. are labeled with the "plus" label https://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Micsig-tBook.html
And it's not just "Batronix" that confuses possible customers (like you) with labels like these, it's also used in China, among Chinese resellers, on fx Aliexpress & likewise. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000468919797.html? and https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005679680623.html
I don't recall I have seen Micsig operate with it officially, so could simply be down to third-party vendors jack'ng of consumers, "it's a "plus" model with a strap-on (hand strap) battery, mat screen protector etc. - in the hope they choose them, instead of other resellers, simply because that listing got the "plus" label - as "plus" gotta be better than other models without the "plus".
ptluis:
--- Quote from: DaneLaw on October 10, 2023, 02:03:31 pm ---As explained the "Plus" signifies a battery.. and seems to be third-party Chananagang
Maybe a dated term from when some were sold without batteries.
All Batronix Micsig-models. are labeled with the "plus" label https://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Micsig-tBook.html
And it's not just "Batronix" that confuses possible customers (like you) with labels like these, it's also used in China, among Chinese resellers, on fx Aliexpress & likewise. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000468919797.html? and https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005679680623.html
I don't recall I have seen Micsig operate with it officially, so could simply be down to third-party vendors jack'ng of consumers, "it's a "plus" model with a strap-on (hand strap) battery, mat screen protector etc. - in the hope they choose them, instead of other resellers, simply because that listing got the "plus" label - as "plus" gotta be better than other models without the "plus".
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Marketing thing, I understand, but annoying when it's necessary to make choices and time is short. Anyway TO2004 is on my list for the moment. There's not much offers on tablet scopes or battery operated scopes from other brands, I haven't found one tablet scope that could do bode plotting. If I buy the Micsig I'll have to manual bode plot like in the old days and that's kind of annoying, or i could try Dave's approach like he showed on YouTube many years ago. I don't do alot of BP but some times is necessary. I know there's other brands with better and more complete options, but they're not battery operated. Well decisions, decisions....
2N3055:
--- Quote from: ptluis on October 10, 2023, 02:55:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: DaneLaw on October 10, 2023, 02:03:31 pm ---As explained the "Plus" signifies a battery.. and seems to be third-party Chananagang
Maybe a dated term from when some were sold without batteries.
All Batronix Micsig-models. are labeled with the "plus" label https://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Micsig-tBook.html
And it's not just "Batronix" that confuses possible customers (like you) with labels like these, it's also used in China, among Chinese resellers, on fx Aliexpress & likewise. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000468919797.html? and https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005679680623.html
I don't recall I have seen Micsig operate with it officially, so could simply be down to third-party vendors jack'ng of consumers, "it's a "plus" model with a strap-on (hand strap) battery, mat screen protector etc. - in the hope they choose them, instead of other resellers, simply because that listing got the "plus" label - as "plus" gotta be better than other models without the "plus".
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Marketing thing, I understand, but annoying when it's necessary to make choices and time is short. Anyway TO2004 is on my list for the moment. There's not much offers on tablet scopes or battery operated scopes from other brands, I haven't found one tablet scope that could do bode plotting. If I buy the Micsig I'll have to manual bode plot like in the old days and that's kind of annoying, or i could try Dave's approach like he showed on YouTube many years ago. I don't do alot of BP but some times is necessary. I know there's other brands with better and more complete options, but they're not battery operated. Well decisions, decisions....
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For sake of completeness, there are also standard battery handhelds not in tablet factor. For instance Siglent has SHS800X and SHS1000X series.
Fully featured scopes (with all time running history mode and segmented mode, serial decoding etc) and scopemeter (with built in multimeter). It also has 1 MPts FFT. Meter has trend function for data logging.. And many other things. Datasheet is available for details.
One very interesting thing about SHS1000X is that channels are ISOLATED between each other and FLOATING...
They are also quite rugged. Other manufacturers have similar models (I mention these specifically because I'm familiar with them)
Micsig tablets have common ground on a chassis, all BNC and USB are connected together... Don't make it explode...
One note about Micsig. Even those Micsigs that have segmented mode have that mode only for show. You can manually go screen to screen and look at the signal shape. There are no tools to search, measure or decode or similar form such segmented data. That makes segmented mode pretty much useless for any thing than few screens and simple visual comparisons..
For instance, on my Keysight I can capture 100 individual I2C packets to 100 segmented captures and decode from all of them in single interface. Or search for edge, pulse or other searches on al that data. Same with Siglents I have.
It is not clear and documented that you can do anything like that on Micsig with segments, apart from visually browsing through screens or overlaying them all on top of each other...
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