Micsig Tablet Oscilloscope tBook mini TO1000

[eKretz]

Would some of you tablet guys mind reporting in on my thread regarding this DC offset issue I'm having? Pretty sure this isn't normal, but want to confirm before I go for the return/replacement. Any of your tablets do anything like this?

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/dc-offset-wander/

[Howardlong]

All the hands-on comments seem quite positive. Instructive to refer back to an earlier thread where this type of scope got absolutely thrashed by experienced commenters:

EEVBlog disses Micsig

I'm sure there's a lesson or moral or something in there somewhere 

[Disclaimer: I was dubious about not having physical buttons and switches, but having since used touch with its drag and pinch and stuff on phones and tablets, I wouldn't mind playing with the same UI on a scope. Having just bust the entire years toy budget it's not going happen just yet, though...]

Actually, I think it's positive because it shows that despite initial concerns and cynicism we are open minded enough to stand corrected. I still don't jump for it as a bench scope though, I remain knob centric. 

[PlainName]

we are open minded enough to stand corrected

A good point 

[diegod]

Just received my TO1074 from Batronix. It came with the strap and all the options enabled except for 28M storage, including 500 uV and WLAN. It has a "delivery date" of 2016-12-22 and version 7.12.0.212. This version already has the option to record live videos, it creates AVI files encoded with H264 at 800x600 25fps at around 5500kbps. They look fine. The UI has some minor changes compared to mike's video, mainly the channel settings is a dialog now and has a few more options.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to have telnet enabled. A TCP scan reveals ports 7, 13, 21, 37, 80, 8888, 18211, 18212. Port 8888 outputs large amounts of binary data constantly. It is what the remote control app uses (available on the chinese website, all it does is show the oscilloscope screen on the PC as it is on the device), so it is likely just a video stream. Port 18212 disconnects immediately without sending anything, port 18211 stays connected but also doesn't send anything. It is possible to login to the FTP with the root/micsig user, but it just shows the same files than via USB storage.

It is also possible to install options via a "licence" code, but it seems to be encrypted based on a device specific UID that it seems to get from /sys/devices/platform/cpu/uuid. So far I have not found any way of getting this UID, if it is not possible to obtain it easily the firmware upgrade route may be the only way to unlock it.

@cmpxchg let me know if you want me to test anything .

[bill donald]

who knows when the bus decode of this TO1000 release ?

[ebastler]

who knows when the bus decode of this TO1000 release ?

Ouch, my ears are hurting!

[Micsig_support]

who knows when the bus decode of this TO1000 release ?

  Coming soon... ...

[tautech]

who knows when the bus decode of this TO1000 release ?

  Coming soon... ...

Which Protocols ?
All these: ?

Key features:

 :)Select from 70MHZ,100MHz,150MHz,200MHz,300MHz,350MHz,500MHz,600MHz,1GHz bandwidth models
 ;)1GSa/s to5GSa / S real time sampling rate;
 :D200,000wfms/s max waveform capture rate
  18 to 360Mpts memory depth
?::)Support multi-language, adjust the viewing mode with different brightness Automatically

part of optional SW
?   support UART, LIN, CAN, SPI, I2C, I2S, 1553B, and 429 serial bus triggering and decoding
?   Support WIFI, LAN, USB2.0 connectivity and HD video analysis
?   Integration of 5 ½ and 6 ½ high-precision multimeter, recorder and function waveform generator.

[Micsig_support]

who knows when the bus decode of this TO1000 release ?

  Coming soon... ...

Which Protocols ?
All these: ?


five kinds serial bus decode : UART, LIN, CAN, SPI, I2C.

Key features:

 :)Select from 70MHZ,100MHz,150MHz,200MHz,300MHz,350MHz,500MHz,600MHz,1GHz bandwidth models
 ;)1GSa/s to5GSa / S real time sampling rate;
 :D200,000wfms/s max waveform capture rate
  18 to 360Mpts memory depth
?::)Support multi-language, adjust the viewing mode with different brightness Automatically

part of optional SW
?   support UART, LIN, CAN, SPI, I2C, I2S, 1553B, and 429 serial bus triggering and decoding
?   Support WIFI, LAN, USB2.0 connectivity and HD video analysis
?   Integration of 5 ½ and 6 ½ high-precision multimeter, recorder and function waveform generator.

[tautech]

who knows when the bus decode of this TO1000 release ?

  Coming soon... ...

Which Protocols ?

five kinds serial bus decode : UART, LIN, CAN, SPI, I2C.

Are there plans to add more ? 1553B, and 429 ?

[mikeselectricstuff]

who knows when the bus decode of this TO1000 release ?

  Coming soon... ...

Can you confirm it will support all the things that serial decode should do :
Arbitary baudrates ( i.e. not just "standard" rates like  9600,19200 etc.) , up to at least 6Mbaud
Configurable polarity ( idle high or low)
Display in hex, decimal, binary and ASCII
Display of framing errors.
Time-stamped Lister mode

Will there be serial trigger ?

[jacklee]

I'd also ordered this TO1104 last year, one thing get me go nuts is their screen film, maybe just because I'm a bit dumpy so I failed to stick it to my scope, and more worse, I only brought one screen film. I just want to know if there's someone help me figure out how to apply it, it's ridiculous they sell that but have no guide of that! I also find they sell TO1104 on amazon and give special offer to North America guy, it seems our Korea guy don't have that special treatment, a bit unhappy so.
Here's the link to prove my words:
https://www.amazon.com/Micsig-Channel-Digital-Oscilloscope-America/dp/B01MYBF80P

[hammy]

I just want to know if there's someone help me figure out how to apply it, it's ridiculous they sell that but have no guide of that!

No need to dismantle the scope. Just cut the corners of the protection film matching to the shape of the blue corner protection frame and put it on that screen. 

Cheers
hammy

[jacklee]

Thanks, I just figure out their blue outline border could be off. Seems I have to buy a new one

[nctnico]

Anyone using the TO1104 scope daily? Any comments?

[jjoonathan]

Touch screen and portability are more useful than I thought. I often get in the habit of using the tablet as my main scope until lack of decodes or bandwidth make me boot up the Rigol 4000, at which point I spend the next 30 minutes resenting the Rigol for not having a touch screen and portability.

Faster+longer FFT than Rigol 4000. I wouldn't call it good, because it doesn't have spec. an. controls and capabilities, but it's less bad than most others in the price category, except GW Instek and their speedy Zync FFT

More lag when moving/zooming traces than my Rigol 4000, exacerbated by the fact that it's a touchscreen which makes you want to do more moving/zooming     Also, lack of 50 ohm and probe recognition is slightly annoying.

[nctnico]

Thanks! I'm very tempted to buy one as an extra scope.

[Howardlong]

Thanks! I'm very tempted to buy one as an extra scope.

How many "extra" scopes does one need?

[nctnico]

Thanks! I'm very tempted to buy one as an extra scope.

How many "extra" scopes does one need?

One extra would be nice. I'm currently down to one and with two work spaces that is not enough.

[mikeselectricstuff]

..and a spare... or two....
If women can have more shoes and handbags than necessary, why can't we have as many scopes...?

[eKretz]

..and a spare... or two....
If women can have more shoes and handbags than necessary, why can't we have as many scopes...?

Ah! A semantic discussion on the meaning of "necessary".   Let me make a pot of coffee.

Let me also suggest starting with, "You only have two feet." 

 

Haha, I think not. I'd rather keep my two heads!    Women can be irrational when it comes to shoes and clothes.

[Howardlong]

Thanks! I'm very tempted to buy one as an extra scope.

How many "extra" scopes does one need?

One extra would be nice. I'm currently down to one and with two work spaces that is not enough.

Frankly I lost count a while ago how many I have, I must've hit the magic twenty.

[nctnico]

I try to be more strategic. I don't like to have money sitting idle in equipment which depreciates quickly.

[Howardlong]

I try to be more strategic. I don't like to have money sitting idle in equipment which depreciates quickly.

You're strategic, I have a hoarding problem!

[Micsig_support]

..and a spare... or two....
If women can have more shoes and handbags than necessary, why can't we have as many scopes...?

;

Oh, a very interesting topic.

But we have to say oscilloscope is a necessary tool to an engineer.