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Stonent:
As far as the blogs, I think that's the MDO3000 that everyone has.

free_electron:
from the mdo2000 users manual page 4 :

"Copyright © Tektronix. All rights reserved. Licensed software products are owned by Tektronix or its subsidiaries or suppliers, and are
protected by national copyright laws and international treaty provisions.
Tektronix products are covered by U.S. and foreign patents, issued and pending. Information in this publication supersedes that in all
previously published material. Speci?cations and price change privileges reserved."

mamalala:

--- Quote from: free_electron on August 06, 2014, 10:38:16 pm ---from the mdo2000 users manual page 4 :

"Copyright © Tektronix. All rights reserved. Licensed software products are owned by Tektronix or its subsidiaries or suppliers, and are
protected by national copyright laws and international treaty provisions.
Tektronix products are covered by U.S. and foreign patents, issued and pending. Information in this publication supersedes that in all
previously published material. Speci?cations and price change privileges reserved."

--- End quote ---

So what? They have a copyright on their software, which is to be expected. IWhat you quoted is not a license agreement. Someone who buys the scope already got a copy of the code, pre-installed on the scope.

Here in Europe any "agreements" that are bascially shrink-wrapped are null and void. Agreements can only come valid if the buyer is made aware of, and agreed to, them at the point of sale. Any agreement that is inside the box, or has the form of "by opening this, you agree to that" simple has no relevance here.

And then, unless someone in Europe would buy the scope directly from Textronix, and they made the buyer aware of any terms and conditions before the sale went through, any T&C's or license agreements will be between the seller and buyer. The seller can decide to re-use Tek's stuff 1:1 if he wants to. But that only means that at that point they just become _his_ T&C's or license agreement. Tek would still have no further say in the matter.

So, again, because it is really important that people not living in Europe understand this: Any T&C's or license agreements that a buery is not made aware of at the point of sale, before the sale happened, are nothing more than justt a waste of paper and ink.

Greetings,

Chris

mikeselectricstuff:

--- Quote from: free_electron on August 06, 2014, 10:30:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on August 06, 2014, 10:23:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: free_electron on August 06, 2014, 08:40:21 pm ---
Second : you do not have a licence to use that software, even if it came pre-installed
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<assuming I'd bought this scope>
Unlike most PC software, where there is a license agreement shown at install,
I did not agree to any terms that stated I needed a license to use the software.
Nowhere did it explicitly say I was not allowed to use it.
Therefore I do not need a license. If I can make it work, I can use it.
 If, for example, there was extra memory fitted that could be enabled by removing a jumper, I don't think anyone could argue that doing so, or telling others how to, was in any way wrong.
It's a scope, not a general purpose computer. The fact that certain functions are implemented in software is irrelevant.

--- End quote ---

you may want to read the users manual of the machine... i'm willing to bet there is a software licencing agreement in it in the terms of 'if you power it up , you agree to it ...' and 'you will not reverse engineer , yadda yadda ...'

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No way would a statement like that in a user manual hold up legally - not worth the paper it's printed on.
Who reads manuals anyway?

mikeselectricstuff:

--- Quote from: free_electron on August 06, 2014, 10:38:16 pm ---from the mdo2000 users manual page 4 :

"Copyright © Tektronix. All rights reserved. Licensed software products are owned by Tektronix or its subsidiaries or suppliers, and are
protected by national copyright laws and international treaty provisions.
Tektronix products are covered by U.S. and foreign patents, issued and pending. Information in this publication supersedes that in all
previously published material. Speci?cations and price change privileges reserved."

--- End quote ---
So nothing about any restriction on use then.

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