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janoc:

--- Quote from: mamalala on August 07, 2014, 09:10:49 am ---While generally true, the EU laws that the member countries must implement have the advantage that they can be fought for in an EU court if a country did not properly implement it. Also, the consumer protection laws about issues like shrink-wrap stuff (basically an unfair contract) and hacking for private purposes are rather old, so that by now there has been plenty of time for the countries to implement it. Keep in mind that a failure to implement EU directed laws in a timely and sufficient manner can (and usually will) the have EU to impose sanctions against such a country. Just for that reason alone they are often implemented in local law, simply to avoid consequences.

Greetings,

Chris

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My point was less about the law not being implemented at all (that is indeed rare and there are consequences, as you are saying) but that the laws could be implemented slightly differently in every country. As always, devil is in the details - just look at the fights around the mandatory 2 year warranties for non-perishable goods (Apple ...). In Slovakia the warranty is 2 years, period, the seller has to honour it unless they can prove the that the fault is a consequence of the item being mishandled by the buyer. Here in France they have changed the law recently in a way where in the first 6 or so months (or the first year, not sure now) it is up to the seller to prove that the warranty is void because of the buyer mishandling the item, otherwise they have to honour it. After this period it is *up to the buyer to prove* that the fault is actually a consequence of a manufacturing problem and not a result of normal use - only then is the seller obliged to comply.  I think we agree that that is a massive difference for the consumer - and both laws conform to the same EU directive!





janoc:

--- Quote from: madires on August 07, 2014, 10:55:47 am ---If you haven't noticed yet, Tektronix has sent a DMCA take-down notice to Hackaday because they posted an article about hacking MSO2000's application modules. You can read the story at https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140806/07155928127/tektronix-uses-dmca-notice-to-try-to-stop-oscilliscope-hacking.shtml (includes the links to the post and the notice).

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Yes, reply #4 on the first page of this thread  :-+
nctnico:

--- Quote from: free_electron on August 06, 2014, 08:40:21 pm ---just like you having a dvd with the windows install files does not entitle you to use that software. you need the key.

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In the EU: if you have the disk then you have a valid license.

Regarding the EEPROM hack: I have seen that on many sites. Maybe Tektronix doesn't want it on hackaday but the trick is known for several years now.
PA0PBZ:

--- Quote from: janoc on August 07, 2014, 01:09:46 pm ---
--- Quote from: madires on August 07, 2014, 10:55:47 am ---If you haven't noticed yet, Tektronix has sent a DMCA take-down notice to Hackaday because they posted an article about hacking MSO2000's application modules. You can read the story at https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140806/07155928127/tektronix-uses-dmca-notice-to-try-to-stop-oscilliscope-hacking.shtml (includes the links to the post and the notice).

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Yes, reply #4 on the first page of this thread  :-+

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Just to defend madires: He posted this in a separate thread, then I posted a link to this thread to make him aware that there already was a discussion going on, then a moderator took his and my post and moved it over here. When I found out I deleted my post...

His post still has the other thread's title: "Tektronix isn't happy about hackers"
kilohercas:
Just wondering, they say DPO2COM is copyrighted code, ok, if i switch to hex, like 44 50 4f 32 43 4f 4d 50, does that is still under copyright, since is not the same code, but from information point of view, is. So they should include that to copyright law, but did they ( so all code should be translated to U8 S8 U16,S16, U32,S32 and copyrighted )?

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