Brand | Type | Price (18.04.2019) incl. TAX | Comment |
Fluke | 287 & 289 | 575€ | no color Display but seems to be the one of the Top Player! |
Metrix (Chauvin Arnoux) | MTX 3290-3293 (BT) | 740€ | high quality Top DMM! still available but will be replaced by new Type called C.A. 5292 & 5293 in appprox. 1 year |
Chauvin Arnoux | C. A. 5292-5293 (BT) | t.b.a. 2019 | release DATE t.b.a.already listed in FR 2019 Catalogue (according to C.A. Austria on 23.04.19 Release will be delayed 1 year) - more Memory but what else? |
ExTech | GX900 | 545€ | pricey? How does it compare to Uni-T and CEM? Maybe higher priced but same hardware like CEM Uni-T and friends? |
C.E.M. | DT-9987 | 260€ | Bargain? Or China Crap? |
C.E.M. | DT-9989 | 399€ | with Oscilloscope functionality |
C.E.M. | DT-989 | 178€ | same as PeakTech 3440 |
RS Pro | HS608 MeterScope | 415€ | looks like rebranded CEM DT-9989 |
PeakTech | 3440 | 182€ | same as CEM DT-989 |
Uni-T (UniTrend) | UT181A | 260€ | bargain? or china crap? Looks almost like CEM DT-9987 |
Hantek | 2000 Series | 169€ - 199€ | listed under "Handheld Oscilloscope" with DMM functionality? CRAP? |
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Yes it seems C.A. changed color to their corporate identity "yellow" and added more Memory, hope we find out about further improvements. see image below (FR-Catalogue)
I wanted to buy myself a second DMM Device and considered a Bench-Top Model but I think the High End Handheld Devices today offer great accuracy and also portability and are not tied to power grid :-)
Also - as I am a teacher - I consider take them into school to show some basic measurements to my students (its because unfortunately you don't get state of the art equipment from school, what a pity!)
...Yes it seems C.A. changed color to their corporate identity "yellow" and added more Memory, hope we find out about further improvements. see image below (FR-Catalogue)...
(https://i.ibb.co/7Jy519H/C-A-5293-BT.png) (https://ibb.co/Fb7MDP9)
Well, for teaching you'll gona love SPEC mode.
It is great for teaching measurements uncertainties and to get intuitive feeling that your measurement is not one absolute correct number but a set of possible values "somewhere about here"
Do not forget battery type and life. Display life would be nice but it is not practical to verify.It runs 4xAA size. It comes with NiMH batteries and power brick, it charges batteries in meter and can work plugged in.. It also comes with IR USB cable and has nice enough PC software. It suports Modbus and SCPI.
I included the Fluke because it is said its one of the best DMM out there. It is almost capable of replacing many Bench-Top Devices as far as I have read reviews etc. about it.
In my opinion, you don't need a bench top device if you own one of the high accuracy DMM like Metrix (Chauvin Arnoux) or Fluke. In least I would rely on those devices but im not sure if the other like Uni-T 181A or CEM are also as exact as the higher priced Fluke 287/289 Series are. The price is a bargain for approx 260€ you get CEM 9987 or Uni-T 181A with color Display and their Specs are impressive for this Price range, but are they true?
I don't own UT-181.I have similar thoughts about the UT181A. I have no problem with the electronics components they used. My concerns about the materials are mostly mechanical. I don't remember the 181A having any mechanical trimmers. Mine is coming up on three years old and doesn't appear to have drifted much at all. It was also the most thermally stable handheld meter I have looked at out of the box. Like the Brymen BM869s, I like that it supports two K-type sensors.
I do have UT-70C, and truth is, when did some checks against calibrated 6.5 digit meter, it read dead on. To last digit. Also, it had VERY fast peak detect mode, very flat bandwidth on AC mode, exceeding 200kHz for -3dB point.
But it is bad quality of materials and workmanship. Not very much used meter had input banana sockets falling proper contact after maybe 6 months. I managed to find thin 4mm internal dia tubes and replaced soft metal inserts. It working OK now.
Also there is a trimpot inside for basic trim of voltage reference.
Pot started to be noisy at one time, I discovered it had too much of the trimming range. Replaced with combination of two fixed resistors and better quality 10-turn pot. After adjusting, again very accurate in all other ranges. It still is after few years.
I don't use it anymore, it is delegated to my son for measuring simple stuff on the desk and in the car..
I didn't try it myself, but I believe it would be damaged easy by Joe Q Smith, and it is not used for anything that would have enough energy to make it dangerous.
And that seems to be the story of UNI-T. Basically, instruments that could have been great, but not executed quite right.
Good for the money, but not great.
@joeqsmith: Fluke 87V is great but it doesn't came with graphing and logging capabilities.
As far as I know, Fluke seems to be one of the view Companies who make really good DMM not only in terms of technical features, but also in terms of production quality.
An successor, maybe with new (color) Display and built in Bluetooth etc. of the 287/289 Series would be very interesting. Any Ideas when Fluke will update their Product ranges?
I have a MTX 3292 and I really love it. IMHO you can forget the graphing, on the 3292 it is not so easy to zoom in, so there are not many occasions where you can really use it.
But what I like with the graphic display is the ability to show more information.
I first looked at the Fluke, but it takes ages to startup. The Metrix is instant on, so you can use it immediately. It also has the last measurement function enabled when powering on.
The only drawback: The beeper could be a bit louder (at least for me), and even when it is switched off it eats batteries. So from time to time you have to load it.
Batteries are NiMH, so they self discharge..
Well it might be drawing current, but I know all my NiMH cells have pronounced self-discharge. So. it is probably combination of both..Batteries are NiMH, so they self discharge..
That might be an explanation. I was thinking it is because it starts so quick, that they just put it in a sleep mode with a very low power consumption.
With both of your owning them, are the Metrix difficult to disassemble? Does it void the warranty if they are taken apart? I am just surprised I have never seen any pictures posted of their internals.There is a French gentleman opening one ..
For the price, I would expect these to be bullet proof. Imagine if all we saw was a single PTC like the ANENGs.. :-DD :-DD
Good find. I didn't see any sign of GDTs or MOVs for the primary clamp. Perhaps they are on the backside. They used a good sized PTC and what I would assume is some specialized resistor in series with it.
All sorts of mechanical relays. Perhaps these have an internal shield. If you hold a magnet next to the meter, does it change the state of the relays like the Gossen? Worse, can you get the meter into a state where it will not display voltage with just a magnet?
Good find. I didn't see any sign of GDTs or MOVs for the primary clamp. Perhaps they are on the backside. They used a good sized PTC and what I would assume is some specialized resistor in series with it.
All sorts of mechanical relays. Perhaps these have an internal shield. If you hold a magnet next to the meter, does it change the state of the relays like the Gossen? Worse, can you get the meter into a state where it will not display voltage with just a magnet?
I'll take a look if I have one of those HDD magnets to try.. Unfortunately, I don't have that mighty degausser of yours.
I presume there is a good chance they could be made to switch. Relays are close to edge, you could get close to them from outside the box..
Batteries are NiMH, so they self discharge..
Batteries are NiMH, so they self discharge..
But as you can see in the disassembly video, the batteries are AA-Cells you should be able to replace them with better ones.
Don't know why C.A. decided to use Ni-MH Batteries even in the newest upcoming release C.A. 5292 and C.A. 5293
Good find. I didn't see any sign of GDTs or MOVs for the primary clamp. Perhaps they are on the backside. They used a good sized PTC and what I would assume is some specialized resistor in series with it.
There is an additional internal photo of the MTX3293 here that seems to show some further protection devices under a plastic coverI don't see very well. Could you please point out these additional protection devices. No doubt there will be some sort of high speed clamps in various sections.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/metrix-mtx3293-quick-teardown/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/metrix-mtx3293-quick-teardown/)
Can you name separately each datalogging save? in the UT181A. Fluke 289 cannot save a name as you wish, it saves them generally and when trying to get it back you must remember how it was saved.
I don't see very well. Could you please point out these additional protection devices. No doubt there will be some sort of high speed clamps in various sections.
Without the larger parts in both legs, I can't see this thing holding up very well in the tests I run. The tape holding the plastic cover down will be fuel for the fire. It looks like ferrite under the pink heat shrink on the large ribbon. Can anyone confirm?
Can you name separately each datalogging save? in the UT181A. Fluke 289 cannot save a name as you wish, it saves them generally and when trying to get it back you must remember how it was saved.
You may be interested in page 58 of the manual. I have attached this page in case you are blocked from downloading it in your country.
I don't see very well. Could you please point out these additional protection devices. No doubt there will be some sort of high speed clamps in various sections.
I was referring to the 3rd photo in the 2nd post, and the blue SMD parts under the plastic shield which I thought may have been MOVs. But looking at the layout again now, I think these are just a HV resistor divider for the V input jack?
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/metrix-mtx3293-quick-teardown/?action=dlattach;attach=284434;image (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/metrix-mtx3293-quick-teardown/?action=dlattach;attach=284434;image)I think the ribbon cables would be fun to watch with the vibration testing. :-DD The fuse holder didn't look all that impressive as well. With only the large fuse, I wonder can you damage the meter with the lower ranges? No pictures of the switch contacts. It must just be a nightmare to take it all the way apart.Without the larger parts in both legs, I can't see this thing holding up very well in the tests I run. The tape holding the plastic cover down will be fuel for the fire. It looks like ferrite under the pink heat shrink on the large ribbon. Can anyone confirm?
Also interesting is that the input jacks, input protection resistor, and PTC (which are all through hole), don't appear to use through hole solder joints. The board is well secured in the plastic frame with screws, but this would still concern me regarding reliability in field use (and your vibration tests).
I sorry, but I don't understand why do "we" ant to destroy those devices with extrem torture testing, which will never occur in real life.
A technician, who spends so much money for a DMM like the Metrix MTX 329x-Series or other high end Meter like Fluke, Gossen etc. will take care of his equipment!
I indeed do understand, that good input protection and rigid construction, high quality Materials and electrical parts should be present in higher priced meters. But aren't some of these exaggerated stress tests a little bit absurd. Sorry if I say directly what im thinking, but I'am a very careful person as I know how long I have to work to be able to buy such a high priced meter!
Also - as I am a teacher - I consider take them into school to show some basic measurements to my students (its because unfortunately you don't get state of the art equipment from school, what a pity!)
I would expect the highest cost meter to be one of the most robust.
Not necesarily. Long scale benchtop meter are not robust at all. They have other priorities. I believe same is here. MTX 3293 is for electronics, in the lab. It's robust enough for that. Also, no, I don't hit it with a hammer or play football with it. So it will last.I would expect the highest cost meter to be one of the most robust.
I totally agree with you ;-) As you pay more for the device it should be well designed and made!
Its very annoying if it isnt, since the "law" of economy says, you get what you pay for! But unfortunately in our money driven World to many players try to optimize their profits instead of their products.
Not necesarily. Long scale benchtop meter are not robust at all. They have other priorities. I believe same is here. MTX 3293 is for electronics, in the lab. It's robust enough for that. Also, no, I don't hit it with a hammer or play football with it. So it will last.
Not necesarily. Long scale benchtop meter are not robust at all. They have other priorities. I believe same is here. MTX 3293 is for electronics, in the lab. It's robust enough for that. Also, no, I don't hit it with a hammer or play football with it. So it will last.
I sorry, but I don't understand why do "we" want to destroy those devices with extrem torture testing, which will never occur in real life.Some people take good care of their equipment, and maybe even try to ensure the devices do not meet unexpected stuff at inputs. Some other people are in a hurry, or they don't pay for the meter themselves and don't care, or are otherwise human and make errors. For the latter combined group of people (i.e. majority), extra beefy protections are nice.
A technician, who spends so much money for a DMM like the Metrix MTX 329x-Series or other high end Meter like Fluke, Gossen etc. will take care of his equipment!
I indeed do understand, that good input protection and rigid construction, high quality Materials and electrical parts should be present in higher priced meters. But aren't some of these exaggerated stress tests a little bit absurd. Sorry if I say directly what im thinking, but I'am a very careful person as I know how long I have to work to be able to buy such a high priced meter!
Or maybe I'm just sadistic towards meters and like watching those videos... (also cheaper than blowing meters by myself.)
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I prefer to see a meter survive a 2000V hit and break at, say, 2500V, rather than only see it survive a nominal 1000V - the first way gives better confidence and trust to it (or well, to the non-tortured siblings of it).
Seems like the devs just throw various colors for the sake of colors, without thinking how to get the best usability benefit from using colors.
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That Gossen could easily be switched from outside the box. IMO, IEC is behind the times to let this sort of thing be allowed in an industrial handheld meter. Then again, I am surprised Gossen would design a meter like this.
https://youtu.be/COuCsWDoI9E?list=PLZSS2ajxhiQBTCU8Mq_i9jidT024A0dV6
Just checked my MTX3292: You can switch the relays easily with a magnet. Good to know that you have to keep magnets away.
Too bad about the bar graph. That's always a sign of a cheap meter when they start adding the useless features. Lack of conductance is also a bit odd. It the relays change states, IMO, that's a huge fail on their part.
I don't care about the bar graph. If I really need it I connect it to my PC and can see what I need. I also don't care if it can handle high tensions etc., as I mainly use it for voltages below 50V. What bothers me is the magnet problem. The question is, what else is available on the market which suits my needs:
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So I don't think there is much left?
I assume you were happy with your purchase up until the time you discovered this problem. Had I not mentioned it, would you even know it exists? Beyond discovering that the money you spent didn't net you the holy grail of handhelds, maybe it's not really a problem.
Read about Flir`s Display isn't really scratch proof!
Has anybody experience with Fair DMM devices? Accuracy etc.?
So I would say, one of the top Players are Fluke, Gossen, Chauvin Arnoux/Metrix, Brymen, Appa, have I forgotten some good OEM?
If you don't consider to buy cheap china crap and want to do serious, quality measurements.
But as already seen in reviews or postet here, all of those meters have their pros and cons.
Slow boot up, magnetic interference problem, ghosting of display whatever, BarGraph issues etc... it seems the perfect meter hasn't been developed yet.
Maybe we should create some kind of kickstarter project and design our own like EEVBlog Meter v2?
I don't care about the bar graph. If I really need it I connect it to my PC and can see what I need. I also don't care if it can handle high tensions etc., as I mainly use it for voltages below 50V. What bothers me is the magnet problem. The question is, what else is available on the market which suits my needs:
- Good readable display
- Intuitive setup menu
- Fast continuity test, preferable the beeper is selectable for open or close (the MTX3292 can't select that)
- Measurement of temperature with type K thermocouple
- Display of the instruments specifications depending on the measured value (you don't have to dig in the manual to know the spec of the selected range and calculate in your head)
- Display of the input impedance depending on the measured value
- Quick startup
I first wanted to buy the Fluke, but it needs several seconds to start, so it was out. The Gossen Metrawatt seems to have the magnet problem, too, despite of not having some of the features I want. So I don't think there is much left?
Accuracy & long time stability etc.
good, readable Display
Bluetooth (connectivity to PC/SmartPhone)
Build Quality
Safety
all for serious Measuring
Regarding the Release of the Successor of the Metrix Asyc IV Series with Color Display MTX 3291-BT and MTX 3293-BT, today C.A. Austria called me and they said that C.A.-Headquarter in FR will delay the release of the new type Model C.A.5292BT and 5293BT for approx. one year. So the blue Metrix one is the actual Model and I ordered it right away! It will arrive tomorrow or on Thursday, im so excited about it and will share my thoughts about it ASAP.
The Keysight meters are for sure one of the Top Player, they should upgrade their product line with graphics display and and include BT Modul.
I'm wondering, so many improvements have been made to SmartPhones, but on the DMM-Side they stick to their (of course well designed) "old" Series? Why?
It should be possible to equip all high end Meters with HD-Quality Color Display, better UI, Firmware upgrade ability etc.
I was going to be a smart ass and ask if you had ordered the magnetic strap to go with it. After doing a search on their site, it appears they don't offer such an accessory. Gossen does but it seems they may have known better. :-DDLOL :-DD
Wow, they CALLED you.. I sent e-mails to export@chauvin-arnoux.fr and posted question on their online site. Nobody got back to me.
Their support makes Rigol and Siglent support look fantastic..
And that is for MOST EXEPENSIVE handheld multimeter they make..
Congrats on your new meter. It is very nice, I find it very easy to use, works well, and has nice features (PT100/1000 and J/K thermocouple temp measurement, zener mode in diode testing, VA mode, math, external current probe support etc..)
The meters I have all utilise AAA batteries, so battery life is questionable. I believe that the DM285 had a different battery option so may be better. Neither of them came with a carry case either, so that is an extra cost if you require one, or you could go for one of their kit versions.
The test leads are reasonable quality, but are moulded test probes with threaded tip adapters, so are not overly compatible with optional accessories. So again another cost if you wish to use different test connections other than a standard probe or crocodile clip.
The Flir DM285 runs on 3 AA batteries. I use Eneloops on mine. No need to buy the optional battery pack.
The test leads have soft flexible silicone, sharp 2mm tips. They include the tip shields, alligator clips, thermo probe, and nylon type carrying case.
The DM285 has a thermo camera, proximity volt alert, data logging, flashlight, laser pointer, Low Z, bluetooth, and 10 year warranty.
I wanted a low cost thermo camera and initially purchased the Flir One Pro but it was flimsy and had a crappy battery. The DM285 had similar features plus full DMM capability. This meter has replaced my Fluke 117 and Fluke 87V as a secondary DMM. The Fluke 289 is my current goto.
But it has a basic accuracy of only 1%. So it might be a good thermal camera, but unfortunately not a high end handheld multimeter.
But it has a basic accuracy of only 1%. So it might be a good thermal camera, but unfortunately not a high end handheld multimeter.
The accuracy does indeed suck for a overly priced meter and is bulky. The voltage spec is actually 1000VAC +/- 1% / 1000VDC +/- 0.09%. The market targeted for this meter is for electrical work, not electronics. It's comparable to my electrician's 117 but offers mV, mA, and uA which the 117 does not offer. The Flir DM285 is an all in one that does many things but not one thing extremely well.Oh yes, you are right, I missed the 0.09%.
Here's what I think I'd enjoy in a meter in 2022:
Let's throw in USB charge while we're at it.
lol, that's the reaction that I expected coming into this.
The model you link above is essentially the same thing as an 80s vintage LCD - fixed digit display made to a price point.
edit: in regards to replacing the rechargeable battery after 3 years: yeah sounds great! Make it replacable, then I can keep it charged and then only replace when the battery is actually worn out instead of every time it drains.
Here we are in 2022 and I'm still looking around for something much like the meter described in the OP. High DPI color screens are now cheap as chips, microcontrollers to run them are even cheaper, and the UI toolsets to develop nice looking solutions have had a few years to bake.
An initial search around the forum and the internet suggests... not much has changed :( Anyone have any thoughts on the state of the market today?
Here's what I think I'd enjoy in a meter in 2022:
- Bigass display with clear font rendering. It's not 1986 anymore, we should be able to do something a bit more readable than fixed-digit LCDs.
- Let's have it be color while we're at it. Why not have a different color scheme when I'm in VDC mode than when I'm in VAC, etc. Screens are big and high res and color and cheap, let's put them to use!
- I don't have time in my life to wait around for my meter to boot up. You should be able to fire up a UI and start taking readings in a second.
- Let's throw in USB charge and data in the same port while we're at it.
Things have changes in the last 10-20 years:
I totally agree! We have 2022 and almost nothing changed since years regarding Multimeters of almost every kind (regardless if they are Benchtop or even worse when looking at handheld units!) Okay keithley has one with touch screen, that's great! :-) a right step forward!
It should be possible to produce good quality handheld units with maybe also with touch display!
I really like the "different color scheme..." thing you mentioned. Why not give e.g. amperage measurements red color, Voltage maybe Blue, AC Voltage orange or whatever the user wants to.
You can get cheap Mobile phones and customize almost everything and the cameras and screens are relative great, especially if compared to the LOW res used it todays DMM`s!!!
Why do those companies not even try to progress in those above mentioned categories?
Maybe you can get a Uni-T UT181a, it sounds perfect for you.
It's not just the battery, it's the screens, too: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/replacing-oled-screen-on-an-agilent-u1253a-multimeter/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/replacing-oled-screen-on-an-agilent-u1253a-multimeter/)
It's not just the battery, it's the screens, too: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/replacing-oled-screen-on-an-agilent-u1253a-multimeter/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/replacing-oled-screen-on-an-agilent-u1253a-multimeter/)
That's actually kind of where I'm going with this. Thanks to cell phones, high resolution displays with MTBF in the 10s of thousands of hours are available for a dollar or two. Early experiments with things like mono OLED from 10 years ago didn't go well, but.... 10 years have passed and the economics of mobile devices has pushed display technology a LONG way in that time. Open a supplier catalog for evidence.
Others here are pointing out problems with touchscreens, and I get that and agree for a lot of use cases but... "high-res color screen" doesn't necessarily mean it also has to be a touchscreen. No reason not to use existing control surfaces (big dial wheel primarily) with a nicer display.
7 segment displays are low power but that's about the end of the advantages they offer. Visibility on a reflective LCD 7 seg display is hot garbage compared to even crappy modern LCDs. With a backlight they can be a little more readable, but then you stop being low power and might as well have used a color LCD.
Just because we are all holding multimeters that were created with technology from a few decades ago doesn't mean that it always has to be this way, and that no improvements could possibly be made. Uni-T seems content to wait around for Fluke et al to make a thing and to then make a clone of that thing. Fluke's product cycle is glacial for their own (good) reasons, but not everyone out there needs the value that Fluke brings to the table (which are often unrelated to the actual performance of the device). One can hope that product managers from other companies can identify the pretty huge gap here and maybe develop something to fill it.
Until then, the UT181a suggestion seems to be a reasonable tradeoff of visibility, performance, and price for me. Teardowns of that unit show a date of 2013 on the PCB, and devices seem to have hit the market in 2015. It seems like the DMM market just stone stopped trying new ideas in the 7 years since...
EMI must be a solved problem because I see color LCDs parked on the front of every other category of test measurement equipment sold in the past decade or so. Every other measurement tool on my bench is using one, meaning scopes, spectrum analyzers, VNAs, power supplies, bench DMMs, etc etc etc.
UNI-T will be a good choice, but only if you are not looking for logging and analyze data on-site, because his software cannot center graph when you zoom (like Fluke 289). simply when you zoom the graph go out of screen :)
Also calibrating can be a problem, unless someone know the code ...
One can hope that product managers from other companies can identify the pretty huge gap here and maybe develop something to fill it.
Question: In what way would a hi-res color screen convey more information to the user of a DMM?
a BT link to a smart phone would be an option.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills and forced to describe why the literal entire world has moved to color LCDs, along with every other category of test measurement equipment out there
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills and forced to describe why the literal entire world has moved to color LCDs, along with every other category of test measurement equipment out there
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills and forced to describe why the literal entire world has moved to color LCDs, along with every other category of test measurement equipment out there
(https://i.imgur.com/sMYBPry.jpg)
Let me try another approach. Here is a screenshot of the forum as of a couple minutes ago. In red, I show the 17 threads which concern something with a color display. In black, there are 5 threads about devices which don't (and two of those are about the same device). Threads which aren't about one specific device aren't counted.
The test measurement industry seems to think they're useful somewhere....
(https://i.imgur.com/ObkGTVJ.png)
Almost none, which is exactly the point. DMM market is stuck with UIs and display tech from the 70s.
Almost none, which is exactly the point. DMM market is stuck with UIs and display tech from the 70s.
nothing better than a good (optionally backlit) black and white lcd.
- highest contrast possible
- sunlight readable
- readable in twilight/ dark ( backlit)
- no pixel flickering / refresh
- sharp font ( no dithering )
- small characters are not restricted to pixel size. the character is a vector etched during manufacturing of the display
now, if you are going to go graphic :
give me trend plot and waveform view so i can look for net disturbances. i don't need a scope but i would like to see at least 100ks/s waveform view so i can look at dimmers and potential interference on powerlines. something i do not like doing with an oscilloscope...
now, if you are going to go graphic :
give me trend plot and waveform view so i can look for net disturbances. i don't need a scope but i would like to see at least 100ks/s waveform view so i can look at dimmers and potential interference on powerlines. something i do not like doing with an oscilloscope...
"Mobile phone body"?!?
I don't think I've seen a mobile phone that big, outside of Dom Joly's Trigger Happy TV!
"Mobile phone body"?!?
I don't think I've seen a mobile phone that big, outside of Dom Joly's Trigger Happy TV!
Haven't you seen the leaked pics of the iPhone14?
But yeah, it's like going from B/W TV to color.
Does anyone make DMM's w/ it's own Li battery, like a cellphone, and that charges over a cable ? I don't normally have spare batteries, so for me it would be better.
If only somebody would make AA/AAA/PP3 batteries that can be recharged...
Does anyone make DMM's w/ it's own Li battery, like a cellphone, and that charges over a cable ? I don't normally have spare batteries, so for me it would be better.
I think you missed the "charges over a cable" part of the question.
The best answer is to own many multimeters. One of them is bound to work. :)
yes, but 1/4 size (standard fluke 177 size) and costing max 200$. ditch all those buttons and make it a touch screen. and i don need 40mhz bandwidth or that sample speed. it's for powerline 50hz/60hz disturbances.
Something like this?
yes, but 1/4 size (standard fluke 177 size) and costing max 200$. ditch all those buttons and make it a touch screen. and i don need 40mhz bandwidth or that sample speed. it's for powerline 50hz/60hz disturbances.
Something like this?
it's for powerline 50hz/60hz disturbances.
The best answer is to own many multimeters. One of them is bound to work. :)
OWON HDS2010S : battery life of 4 hours ?
and the charging adapter was some normal thing that I wouldn't lose
Does anyone make DMM's w/ it's own Li battery, like a cellphone, and that charges over a cable ? I don't normally have spare batteries, so for me it would be better. For some people I'm sure they'd still want batteries they could buy at a any corner store tho.
Hi guys. Why is there no "uni-trend" in the poll? ....