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EEVblog:

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--- Quote from: Fungus on June 01, 2021, 01:30:05 am ---Is that why they have such poor representation in the USA?

(ie. Greenlee have some sort of a licensing deal)

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And Greenlee has a hell of a mark up on their meters, too, which doesn't help any.

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But they don't sell direct do they? So they need a markup on top of that for their retailers.
But I can confirm that the markup is very large.
I do very well selling Brymen meters, even at my reasonable prices.
rsjsouza:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on June 01, 2021, 11:28:06 am ---
--- Quote from: totalnoob on June 01, 2021, 11:21:19 am ---
--- Quote from: Fungus on June 01, 2021, 01:30:05 am ---Is that why they have such poor representation in the USA?

(ie. Greenlee have some sort of a licensing deal)

--- End quote ---

And Greenlee has a hell of a mark up on their meters, too, which doesn't help any.

--- End quote ---

But they don't sell direct do they? So they need a markup on top of that for their retailers.
But I can confirm that the markup is very large.
I do very well selling Brymen meters, even at my reasonable prices.

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The markup for a DM-860A (BM869 equivalent) is comparatively high (20% when compared to TME), although Tequipment sells them for US$313.00 (US$295 with the 6% EEV discount) which, with shipping (for me it is about US$14.00) it does not necessarily break the bank, as Greenlee promises a "lifetime warranty" (I didn't look at the fine print).

https://www.tequipment.net/Greenlee/DM-860A/Multimeters/?search=true

As an individual user I would go for the TME prices but, if you are a company or can have a tax break of sorts, it would not be tantamount to legalized theft...  :-DD
bdunham7:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on June 01, 2021, 11:28:06 am ---But they don't sell direct do they? So they need a markup on top of that for their retailers.
But I can confirm that the markup is very large.

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They do sell direct, although not exclusively.  Greenlee is a professional electrician's tool seller, so a lot of their product will be sold through electrician's supply houses.

https://www.greenleestore.com/search?type=product&options%5Bprefix%5D=last&q=multimeter

I don't think those prices are outrageous since they include free shipping and a lifetime warranty that probably isn't backed by Brymen.  Note that they are sold out of almost everything...

Then there's TEquipment, after the 6% EEVblog discount the 869 equivalent is under $300 and includes a nice bag.

https://www.tequipment.net/Greenlee/DM-860A/Multimeters/?v=65116
ceut:
Quote from: EEVblog on June 01, 2021, 01:01:40 am
It's because Brymen are incredibly loyal to their distributors, even if those distributors are crap.
If they already have an official distributor in a specific country and they have an agreement with them for a particular model, then they will not sell that model to any other distributor.
I sell orders of magnitude more meters than the other official Australian Brymen distributor, but they are loyal to them, so they won't let me sell any other meter they are selling.
So Brymen created the BM786 model specifically for me in order to get around this limitation, that was never supposed to be on the market otherwise.
For example, for more than 5 years I've wanted to sell the BM869 but they will not sell it to me.

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Hello Dave,
Thank you for the explaination !
So, today I have received my BM789 but...
Really disappointed  :'(

It has the LCD washed out problem, as you show on your BM786 video.
I has also the right segments washed more than the other - exactly same problem as your video.

Tried with the new battery packed with, then new battery from me, then my Eneloop 100% fully charged: no screen change. (I use my Eneloop for my tests)
And slow auto-range (but this is not really a big problem).

Many great functions too..

No calibration certificate (whereas on BM257s ans BM869s it was there).
But no problem: it spots on with my 2 meters, even the U1272a who as a new certificate / 8 months old (I have recalibred my BM257s after). And my power supply has good calibration too (SPD3303X-E unlocked to X).
 
Compared to BM257s, BM869s and U1272A: the BM789 screen is really bad.
I have protection film on my meters too (original one on the U1272A  ;D , and one I have cut on my BM257s).

So I return the meter, I can't use a screen as bad as this one (I have mailed the shop to do that).

Also, I don't know if the rotary switch has some problem on the PCB tracks.

Some photos here (the BM869 is not there because not mine, but compared too)

The package (except Eneloop !) - not calibration certificate (strange from Brymen):


The Screen  :(  :








Is Brymen starting to fail? ???  :-\
EEVblog:
Brymen have never provided a calibration certificate  :-//
Perhaps they can offer one as an optional service to the supplier, but that would cost more.

As for autorange, I think it's quite quick, so  :-//
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