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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #275 on: January 01, 2018, 08:18:12 am »
I don't have to know anything to enjoy information. Dave's videos usualy say "look at this! this is crap because this and this. When you compare it with this multimeter, you see the difference!"
That is all I need. I'm just interested. I wasn't even aware he did the kickstarter until it was already over.
It just seemed strange to me that so many people would order a multimeter without knowing exact specs, so i figured i missed some information. That is all.
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #276 on: January 01, 2018, 08:48:25 am »
I don't have to know anything to enjoy information. Dave's videos usualy say "look at this! this is crap because this and this. When you compare it with this multimeter, you see the difference!"
That is all I need. I'm just interested. I wasn't even aware he did the kickstarter until it was already over.
It just seemed strange to me that so many people would order a multimeter without knowing exact specs, so i figured i missed some information. That is all.

The exact specs and features are listed in the manual.
As others have said, if you can't use that to evaluate a $250 meter yourself, then, well, you shouldn't buy it. There are many people who can, and those are likely the people  who bought it.
If you want a review the you'll have to wait for someone to do one.
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #277 on: January 01, 2018, 09:06:34 am »
Ok, guys, is there some kind of problem?
I did not say I wanted or needed to buy one.
I am interested in it purely because of my interest in electronics.
I have watched a lot of teardowns just because I am interested. I find it interesting.
I can look at specifications but I does not tell me what kind of problems can be solved with using this meter over some others.
I understand that the burden is better. I see it is better shielded from outside statics or whatever.
I was just asking if there was a comprehensive info in form ov a video or a page that states which things are improved over other well amde and well known meters. I have a 10 year old mid class UniT and it works well for me as I am not doing anything serius.
I don't understand how was I not clear on that and why some of the responses should be "don't buy one if you can't read the manual", paraphrased.
Big thanks to all that confirmed that information was limited and I am looking forward to teardowns, reviews and such!
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #278 on: January 01, 2018, 10:36:30 am »
I think it's because you're demanding information about a final product that literally isn't in customers hands yet. And expected that reviewers would have review videos out before they actually have one in their hands to review. And then the "Looks like it was all kind of a secret?" line seemed to suggest that there was a conspiracy to keep you in the dark.

As for what various specs mean, that info is out there if you're willing to educate yourself. Search for "burden voltage", and you'll find plenty of explanations out there, some of them in video form. Ditto for almost any other technical aspect you're curious about.
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #279 on: January 01, 2018, 10:43:54 am »
And yet again you have missed what I have been saying.
I said that I understand that one of the things is burden voltage, but I am wondering what else.
I wasn't thinking about consumer reviews but info from Dave. I thought i missed the videos. I mean, this project lasts for two years, does it not?
And again, I am just interested about why would you do a project of two years when you already have the best multimeters in the world on your bench.  What is different (except burden voltage).
Is my english so bad?
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #280 on: January 01, 2018, 10:53:32 am »
And again, I am just interested about why would you do a project of two years when you already have the best multimeters in the world on your bench.  What is different (except burden voltage).

For example Bluetooth communication, 15V diode test (I've never seen that on other meters)
 
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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #281 on: January 01, 2018, 10:54:20 am »
To clarify further.
I thought the answers might be like:
1. Dave knows his stuff and he wanted to make it just because he can.
2. It is just another source if income as he is a full time youtuber and a pretty good meter for money.
3. The burden voltage improvement is good eanough reason for making such multimeter and reason to buy it
4. The precision, burden voltage, bluetooth... there really is no such combo on the market and people need it.
5. There is a lot of videos covering this made by Dave, but they are exclusive Patreon or Kickstarter supporter content.

Something along those lines. Just asking.
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #282 on: January 01, 2018, 10:57:22 am »
For example Bluetooth communication, 15V diode test (I've never seen that on other meters)

Cool, thanks!
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #283 on: January 01, 2018, 10:59:52 am »
The information video here is surely a good start:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/eevblog/eevblog-121gw-multimeter

It's not about your English, we understand your questions OK. But the information is already out there. I don't know of any videos that are exclusive to Patreon or Kickstarter. All the information is public.
I'm not an EE--what am I doing here?
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #284 on: January 01, 2018, 11:01:21 am »
The meter has many extra features, some of them you can also find on other meters, but not al of them in the same meter.
Some of the features are (I am probably missing some):
15V diode test
Bluetooth
SD card logging
Concurrent V and A measurement
Low burden voltage
Software in meter can be updated

 
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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #285 on: January 01, 2018, 11:04:25 am »
The information video here is surely a good start:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/eevblog/eevblog-121gw-multimeter

It's not about your English, we understand your questions OK. But the information is already out there. I don't know of any videos that are exclusive to Patreon or Kickstarter. All the information is public.

Ok. So it is just those highlights that make it special.
Bluetooth, Android software, 15V diode test, low burden voltage, 50k count, good accuracy and overall good build that make it stand out.
As I don't really need any of those features I wasn't aware that it is not available elsewhere (for the price or what).
Ok, cool!
Sorry if I waqs a pain. :-)
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #286 on: January 01, 2018, 11:06:05 am »
The meter has many extra features, some of them you can also find on other meters, but not al of them in the same meter.
Some of the features are (I am probably missing some):
15V diode test
Bluetooth
SD card logging
Concurrent V and A measurement
Low burden voltage
Software in meter can be updated

Yep, i get it now. Thanks!
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #287 on: January 01, 2018, 11:15:12 am »
Possibly Apple, IOS software too? 👍

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #288 on: January 01, 2018, 12:14:09 pm »
Possibly Apple, IOS software too? 👍

Thanks
Russ

If I recalled it correctly, it's written in Xamarin/C#, so there is no reason why it won't run on iOS if Dave is willing to pay for an iOS license of Xamarin.
 
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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #289 on: January 01, 2018, 06:36:03 pm »
Possibly Apple, IOS software too? 👍

Thanks
Russ

If I recalled it correctly, it's written in Xamarin/C#, so there is no reason why it won't run on iOS if Dave is willing to pay for an iOS license of Xamarin.

   I don’t know if I’ll ever outgrow my Eevblog/Brymen 235. But is so, the 121GW would be the first Meter I would consider.

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #290 on: January 02, 2018, 05:21:55 am »
Who is making the 121GW meter for Dave. What meters have they made in the past or do they currently make?

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #291 on: January 02, 2018, 05:45:10 am »
Who is making the 121GW meter for Dave. What meters have they made in the past or do they currently make?

Thanks
Russ

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #292 on: January 02, 2018, 06:49:46 pm »
Guys honestly I was following up on 121GW but doh  |O Holidays + YearEnd I missed when kick starter happed. The time I knew it was already over  :scared:

I have purchased a few multimeters last year, Fluke 87v, Extech EX540 and yes Uni-t ut171B. The last uni-t that I received is independently certified, and 0.025% class (that they claim at least). I was comparing the specs of all the above against Dave's 121GW, the 121GW is cool, desirable small form factor with some unique features, bluetooth + that EEVBlog Blue  :popcorn:

But I am at a loss when it comes accuracy - in 121GW manual, accuracy is mentioned to be different for each range. Where as for Fluke 87v it is same across the range and pretty good too, for ex: Resistance up to 50 M? @ ±(0.2% + 1), DC Voltage up to 1000 V @±(0.05% + 1)

But 121GW accuracy is different for different ranges. Resistance 50 M? range @ ±1.2%+20, DC voltage 600 V @ ±0.1% + 10

May be some one can clarify here.. are the other meters hiding the accuracy for different ranges ?


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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #293 on: January 02, 2018, 06:55:27 pm »
It is very typical multimeters has lower accuracy at the extreme ranges.
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #294 on: January 02, 2018, 07:04:11 pm »
It seems to me like Dave didn't choose this model for raw accuracy, it's more about versatility.

« Last Edit: January 02, 2018, 07:06:26 pm by Fungus »
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #295 on: January 05, 2018, 12:39:43 am »
And yet again you have missed what I have been saying.
I said that I understand that one of the things is burden voltage, but I am wondering what else.
I wasn't thinking about consumer reviews but info from Dave. I thought i missed the videos. I mean, this project lasts for two years, does it not?
And again, I am just interested about why would you do a project of two years when you already have the best multimeters in the world on your bench.  What is different (except burden voltage).
Is my english so bad?

Just RTFM !!
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #296 on: January 05, 2018, 12:50:01 am »
Guys honestly I was following up on 121GW but doh  |O Holidays + YearEnd I missed when kick starter happed. The time I knew it was already over  :scared:
I have purchased a few multimeters last year, Fluke 87v, Extech EX540 and yes Uni-t ut171B. The last uni-t that I received is independently certified, and 0.025% class (that they claim at least). I was comparing the specs of all the above against Dave's 121GW, the 121GW is cool, desirable small form factor with some unique features, bluetooth + that EEVBlog Blue  :popcorn:
But I am at a loss when it comes accuracy - in 121GW manual, accuracy is mentioned to be different for each range. Where as for Fluke 87v it is same across the range and pretty good too, for ex: Resistance up to 50 M? @ ±(0.2% + 1), DC Voltage up to 1000 V @±(0.05% + 1)
But 121GW accuracy is different for different ranges. Resistance 50 M? range @ ±1.2%+20, DC voltage 600 V @ ±0.1% + 10
May be some one can clarify here.. are the other meters hiding the accuracy for different ranges ?

Higher end meters use custom laser trimmed ceramic hybrid divider networks, this likely results in the ability to more confidently state a specification over all the ranges.
 
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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #297 on: January 05, 2018, 12:52:46 am »
For example Bluetooth communication, 15V diode test (I've never seen that on other meters)

Protek 608 had 20V diode mode (if the battery was fresh).

If I remember correctly, the later model (protek 610/620) sadly dropped the high voltage diode mode, but added 100k count and datalogging. Was an amazing meter for the price: https://www.tequipment.net/Protek620.asp
 

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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #298 on: January 05, 2018, 12:55:53 am »
Just got shipping notification for mine ex Sydney :-+

I own 3 handheld cheaper meters already two of which are also datalogging ones. An Agilent 34401 and a pair of 34970A Loggers with 6.5 digit multimeter cards fitted.

Yet I ordered one of these!

It fits has a great feature set already and an app that I am sure will become a great add on as it develops. It's accuracy spec is far better than my current handhelds so for taking in my gear bag to outside jobs or day to day use on the bench it made a lot of sense. My claggy old Jaycar toolbag one will continue until it dies as it is more than up to field use and if it gets broken care factor is zero.

If you are expecting 6 digits plus of accuracy go buy one 'as well'  >:D
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Re: New EEVBlog-Branded Multimeter Coming?
« Reply #299 on: January 05, 2018, 09:06:27 pm »
Sorry if I have missed the announcement or information, but when will the general public, who were not part of the funding project, be able to place an order for one of these beauties.

The shop still only lists the older model.

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