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Re: NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter
« Reply #75 on: October 21, 2024, 05:08:28 am »
In fact, this sounds exactly like something invented by someone that was never a technician in critical industries but they wanted to add some cool wanky feature to show innovation.
This switch position will never be used by any people in critical industries. In fact, I could see field manuals enhanced by warnings that it should not be used as a replacement for current safety procedures.

I've worked at companies that would lap this feature up and immediately write it into the test procedure.
 

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Re: NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter
« Reply #76 on: October 21, 2024, 05:46:00 am »
In fact, this sounds exactly like something invented by someone that was never a technician in critical industries but they wanted to add some cool wanky feature to show innovation.
This switch position will never be used by any people in critical industries. In fact, I could see field manuals enhanced by warnings that it should not be used as a replacement for current safety procedures.

I've worked at companies that would lap this feature up and immediately write it into the test procedure.

I have no doubt that it would seem cool to middle management bureaucrats at first sight.
But it is not a replacement for Live Dead Live Test, not a replacement for calibration and calibration stickers and battery voltage check is already part of procedure (no need for battery voltage, just go/no go).
To make it even worse, there is no traceability, no way to check if someone did the test, when they did it and who did the test. User can disable calibration warning from menu easily.
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Re: NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter
« Reply #77 on: October 21, 2024, 06:14:31 am »
I have no doubt that it would seem cool to middle management bureaucrats at first sight.

And that's the point.

Face it: Fluke's gonna sell millions of these.

Now's a good time to look for used 87-V's if you live in that sort of country.
 

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Re: NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter
« Reply #78 on: October 21, 2024, 06:33:38 am »
I have no doubt that it would seem cool to middle management bureaucrats at first sight.

And that's the point.

Face it: Fluke's gonna sell millions of these.

Now's a good time to look for used 87-V's if you live in that sort of country.

This Self Check being discussed is on Fluke 283/FC, not 87V.
283/FC will be sold because it is specialized instrument with some interesting features (like 1500V DC range, logging, limits, wireless current clamp and VA mode etc..)

I got rid of 87V because I have better instruments.
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Re: NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter
« Reply #79 on: October 21, 2024, 06:43:25 am »
This Self Check being discussed is on Fluke 283/FC, not 87V.

Really???

You can't see that this is Fluke's ploy to replace all those corporate 87Vs that simply refuse to die?
 

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Re: NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter
« Reply #80 on: October 21, 2024, 07:23:41 am »
This Self Check being discussed is on Fluke 283/FC, not 87V.

Really???

You can't see that this is Fluke's ploy to replace all those corporate 87Vs that simply refuse to die?

This is specific meter for Photovoltaic installations and such.
It is not in any way replacement for 87V.

Ploy? I don't care much about conspiracy theories.
And if they do, what do I care?
And 87V dies plenty, when used in rough places.
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Re: NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter
« Reply #81 on: October 21, 2024, 01:32:13 pm »
I do think it's a good replacement for the 87V. The higher CAT rating is a good thing. No direct current measurement is fine as I never use that function for the work I use the 87V for and save from the mistake of having the test leads in the wrong ports. However, the battery life is not good and it's as big as the 87V Max and not having as good an IP rating or drop protection as the 87V Max. The FC function is useful.
 

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Re: NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter
« Reply #82 on: October 21, 2024, 02:01:28 pm »
It is not in any way replacement for 87V.

Maybe not for YOU.
 

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Re: NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter
« Reply #83 on: October 21, 2024, 02:29:37 pm »
It is not in any way replacement for 87V.

Maybe not for YOU.

It is not functional replacement for anybody in any way...
Get both datasheets and you will see..
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Re: NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter
« Reply #84 on: October 21, 2024, 02:42:57 pm »
It is not in any way replacement for 87V.

Maybe not for YOU.

It is not functional replacement for anybody in any way...
Get both datasheets and you will see..

It's functional replacement if all you ever use it for is to measure voltage.

(which is what a lot of these people probably do)
 

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Re: NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter
« Reply #85 on: October 21, 2024, 04:06:03 pm »
It is not in any way replacement for 87V.

Maybe not for YOU.

It is not functional replacement for anybody in any way...
Get both datasheets and you will see..

It's functional replacement if all you ever use it for is to measure voltage.

(which is what a lot of these people probably do)

When I used the 87V is for measuring AC, DC voltage. Resistance, Continuity, Capacitance, Frequency, Diode check. I would need a separate current clamp to measure current and I dislike the current clamp accessory because it reads in mV and not A. The wireless current clamp for the 283 is a good one. With FC capability is nice as sometimes I need to close the electrical cabinet and then turn on the power to take reading. It's safer that way. So yeah it would do what I use the 87V for but I don't like that it's too big and 150 hour of battery life with 3AAA is kind of short for me.
It's not for precision work but I don't use the 87V for precision work either.
 

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Re: NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter
« Reply #86 on: October 21, 2024, 05:05:55 pm »
yeah it would do what I use the 87V for but I don't like that it's too big and 150 hour of battery life with 3AAA is kind of short for me.

What if your workplace mandated it for "management" reasons?

(ie. The Fluke salesmen paid them a visit and spread a lot of scary talk about legal liabilities if they don't use a self-checking meter)

You'd get one, right?
 

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Re: NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter
« Reply #87 on: October 21, 2024, 06:31:21 pm »
yeah it would do what I use the 87V for but I don't like that it's too big and 150 hour of battery life with 3AAA is kind of short for me.

What if your workplace mandated it for "management" reasons?

(ie. The Fluke salesmen paid them a visit and spread a lot of scary talk about legal liabilities if they don't use a self-checking meter)

You'd get one, right?
I retired now and when I was working I made the choice of meter I want to use (although they paid for it) not management. But as I said it's a good replacement for the 87V but I don't like it too big. I have used the 87V Max for a while and while I do like it I don't like its size.
 


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