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Title: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Perepandel on October 22, 2020, 10:14:55 am
Hi,

I've posted some about this also in the https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/) thread, as it would be nice to know if these models are bandwith hackable, also.

But in this thread my aim is to discuss any available info on these supposed new models, as nothing can be found on Hantek's site. Could it be that they are fake?? They seem like an upgraded version of DSO5xx2 with much more memory (8M), an in-built function generator, serial decoding, 12bit precision and from 100 to 150 MHz, and cheaper than the DSO5xx2 models. No info on Google or whatsoever, either.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: sithrebel15 on October 27, 2020, 06:33:39 am
It's still an 8 bit scope. the AWG is 12 bit.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: lmantuano on November 12, 2020, 01:22:22 am
Hi Sithrebel,

I'm also curious having ordered one from Aliexpress (DSO2C10), do you have actual information on these scopes? could they actually be FAKES? I'm NEW to this...

regards

Luigi
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: tunk on November 12, 2020, 11:20:55 am
There's a thread about the DSO2D10:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/what-is-a-hantek-dso2d10/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/what-is-a-hantek-dso2d10/)
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: lmantuano on November 12, 2020, 10:30:04 pm
 Thanx Tunk!
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?... GOOD NEWS!
Post by: lmantuano on November 14, 2020, 07:15:28 am
Hi All,

got a reply from zhangqiang@hantek.com saying "this is our new product, it is not a fake"   Great, hope it comes soon..

lm
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Perepandel on November 17, 2020, 11:47:38 am
Hi! Thanks for the info; I just got to know about that thread some minutes ago. Actually this one is older, so they should be referret to here  ::)

Anyway... I just got mine about two weeks ago but it's still inside its box for two reasones: first of all, I don't have the time to play with it due to work & studies constraints, and second, I ordered the 100 Mhz one because it was the only one available at the moment but later I found the 150 one in stock, so I ended ordering it too, hoping I'll be able to sell the other one. It's still in transit.

I hope we've made a good purchase. Some months ago I was about to buy a DSO5102P but got informed about its short memory length. Then I was in search of a Siglent SDS1202x-e but it's at about twice is "old" price and I got tired of waiting for months to get a deal, which has not come, even after some failed attempts (fake Amazon ads and so on). Then one day this model appeared suddenly on AliExpress.

What's not clear to me is what the 12-bit resolution refers to. Some say it's for the function generator only. Some specs say the oscillo itself has a 12-bit vertical res; others say it's a 8-bit oscillo. No definite answer.

What I like also is that it comes with serial decoding.

I have very little experience with oscillos. I'll give more info when I have the chance to play with it.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: tunk on November 17, 2020, 09:55:03 pm
Quote
Anyway... I just got mine about two weeks ago but it's still inside its box for two reasones:
If it was me, I would open it and check if it works. And if it doesn't, contact the seller.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Perepandel on December 04, 2020, 11:08:00 am
Quote
Anyway... I just got mine about two weeks ago but it's still inside its box for two reasones:
If it was me, I would open it and check if it works. And if it doesn't, contact the seller.

Haven't opened it yet as I've already got the 150 Mhz already, but haven't had the time to play with it; just to test that it work and looks good. Maybe this weekend.

I've algo got the manual in PDF from Hantek as it was missing on the driver CD  :palm:, so I asked them via email and at least I have to aknowledge that they were very quick replying. As an unexpected gift, I got a firmware update. Which opens up the question of how feasible would be to flash an inferior device (the 100 Mhz version and even the ones without signal generator) and see what happens... Any volunteers? Remember I have an spare, new unit for sell  ;D
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on December 13, 2020, 01:29:16 am
I have an DSO2D10 on order from Banggood and they are already 3 week late to ship it, their excuse is "excessive demand".   

@Perepandel, do you think I can flash my DSO2D10 (when I get it) with your 150MHz firmware version, is it for the DSO2D15 (Signal Generator version)???
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Perepandel on December 15, 2020, 03:12:38 pm
I have an DSO2D10 on order from Banggood and they are already 3 week late to ship it, their excuse is "excessive demand".   

@Perepandel, do you think I can flash my DSO2D10 (when I get it) with your 150MHz firmware version, is it for the DSO2D15 (Signal Generator version)???

Hi upsss! Have you already got your machine? I have no idea what would happen in case you flashed it with the firmware I got. My bet is nothing will break, not to the point that it would get bricked, at least. The hardware can't be that different, in case it is  :-//. I think the worst that could hapen may be that the new features don't work. Or maybe it even refuses to flash prior to that. And, finally, you should keep a copy of the original firmware in case everything goes wrong. I don't know if the upgrader offers that possibility (to save it prior to flashing).

I can send you the file in case you want to try, but of course I don't offer any warranty in case it doesn't work and your oscilloscope becomes dead. I think you should ask the more experienced people in this forum regarding what to do.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on December 16, 2020, 12:35:51 am
Hi Perenpendal,

I have a DSO2D10 and am curious to see what will happen when I update it with the DSO2D15 firmware.
The hardware is exactly the same, the PCB is marked 2D15.
So if you can email the firmware to me, please do.
Mine already had a fault where it freezed on 80% Hardware Initialization, so Hantek support has sent me the necessary platform tools to get the low level hardware back to work again.
According to them these models are actually unbrickable since they use the Allwinner Controllers. that is also used in Raspberry Pi, Orange Pi, and some Android Phones. etc. Its basically an Android Platform.
They use Phoenixsuite_CN to load the Boot Files, etc.
It uses the Allwinner F1C200s controller which is a fantastic controller to work with.
Download the datasheet and user manuals Pdf files from the internet and check it out.
Its a Linux system off-course. I wish I could get hold of the source files for the firmware so that one can do your own mods on bugs.
zadig-2.5 are used to load the WinUSB driver to make it work as a programmable WinUSB slave.
Then they use Sunxi-fel to convert it to Android. After that Phoenixsuite_CN is used to load the bootfiles, etc.
To convert the processor to a USB slave there is a small button underneath that must be depressed when you switch it on. One of the small ventilation holes just at the right spot. It can then be plugged into your PC and will register as a WinUSB device under Device Manager instead of a measuring Instrument instead.
Off-course the back USB connector is used for this purpose.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on December 16, 2020, 07:35:29 am
Hi Perepandel, I have NOT received my DSO2D10 yet, it is supposed to be shipped on December 28, which is 3 weeks past their (Banggood) original shipping date. 
Maybe Hantek is fixing some bugs and that is why they are delaying shipments.  I rather wait a few more weeks and not have to deal with any obvious bugs.

In another thread you mentioned that you already have 2 of these new scopes, which versions did you get.  How do you like them, any problems?
 
I looks like CMAASS has already also the DSO2D10 and he sounds like he knows what he is talking about.  Maybe he will the first guy to try your DSO2D15 firmware and hopefully we all will follow him. 
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: jobitjoseph1 on December 17, 2020, 09:47:11 am
Is it full firmware file or just update file? If it's just update file it's no use , because the update file for the DSO2D10 and DSO2D15 is the same.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: jobitjoseph1 on December 17, 2020, 09:48:39 am
Can you please share the files and method.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on December 18, 2020, 07:06:09 pm
Hi jobitjoseph1,

are you referring to the platformtools and Phoenixsuite_CN tools or to the Firmware?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: jobitjoseph1 on December 18, 2020, 07:25:58 pm
Hi cmaass,
Both platform tools and the firmware.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on December 18, 2020, 07:50:51 pm
I will see what I can do, those are very large files.
I will post the firmware so long, it is a small file for the DSO2D10
I just want to add, after I used the platform tools whenever I press the System Info function key in the Utility Menu it no longer shows the Model number, Serial number and Hardware info, those are undefined.
It only shows the Software and Firmware numbers.
So I don't even know what model Number it is now, only that it is a type D.
When I received the scope from Aliexpress the Waveform Generator did not exist on it. I then wrote to Hantek and they have send me a firmware update within 2 days.
The same when it freezed on 80% Hardware Init. It also took only 2 days before I received the platform tools. All these were from a guy named wangshuang, he was very helpfull.
There aftersales service is very good.
There are still a lot of bugs that has to be sorted out. I wrote to Hantek about them, hope they can fix it.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on December 18, 2020, 07:55:19 pm
hi  Perepandel,

does the firmware file for the 2D15 has the same name and date or does it differ?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on December 18, 2020, 08:32:56 pm
There are still a lot of bugs that has to be sorted out. I wrote to Hantek about them, hope they can fix it.
Maybe that is the reason they stooped/delaying new shipments.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: jobitjoseph1 on December 19, 2020, 03:40:43 am
hi  Perepandel,

does the firmware file for the 2D15 has the same name and date or does it differ?
As per hantek it's the same
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: jobitjoseph1 on December 19, 2020, 09:29:02 am
Bug spotted
Frequency measurement on 4k,40k and 400Kpt is wrong.for 1Khz signal measurement shows 498Hz, measurement works fine with 4M & 8Mpt memory depth are fine.
(https://i.imgur.com/vhMXW2M.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DgEv9z0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CfHsKMw.jpg)
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on December 19, 2020, 12:29:16 pm
Hi, I had the same problem.
It was fixed after reloading the boot files, etc with the platform tools.
However like I said after using the platform tools my system info disappeared.
See my former post.

Below is the link to download the platform tools.
Just follow the instructions in the readme_English.docx file in the platform tools folder.

What I found is, after I loaded the Android driver with sunxi-fel uboot images/uboot_fastboot.bin ,  when I ran the cmds.bat file , when the scope rebooted it freezed,
I then switched the scope off and on again by pressing the button underneath while switching it on. (I used a matchstick to press the button, that way you cannot short out anything.)
After that I ran the cmds.bat file straight away whithout using sunxi-fel, since the Android file is now already present. It then booted without any problems.
If it shows as a Winusb device under Device Manager with the driver info as you saw in the Zadig-2.5 utility, you can just use the cmds.bat file whenever the scope freezes during rebooting and if you are unable to reload the update file. Although it only happened to me that one time.

However  there are a lot of other bugs present as you will eventually discover.

The Phoenixsuite_CN.msi is in Chinese, so if it does not install just try again by pressing other buttons ;D. The first time that I used the zadig_2,5 utility the scope came up as an unknown device and I had to re-install Phoenixsuite again and reloaded the win driver with zadig before it showed up correctly.

Here is the link to download the platform tools.: https://fil.email/7UJkVuFZ
Best of luck!
Disclaimer: You use these at your own risk if it does nor work, although according to them the Allwinner Controller is unbrickable.

If anyone can figure out how to get the system info back again please let us know.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: jobitjoseph1 on December 20, 2020, 12:03:29 pm
In my scope the software version is shown as 20201127.01
When I contacted hantek and my dealer they send dso3kb_20201026 saying it's the latest update. Which one is actually the latest version.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: tv84 on December 20, 2020, 12:29:08 pm
It seems they will have plenty of HW revisions!!!   :scared:

(https://i.imgur.com/CfHsKMw.jpg)
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on December 20, 2020, 04:47:54 pm
Hi  jobitjoseph1
So it seems yours is later than mine.
Could you please upload it here so that I also can have the latest version.

When I do the platform tools low level it also shows on mine as 20201127.01 and mine is 20201118.01, so it must be integrated into the platform tools.
I just want to make sure I have the latest update on a stick.
Thanks.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on December 20, 2020, 04:53:42 pm
Just make sure to pack it to a .zip or .rar.
They do not aloud .upk for uploading.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: jobitjoseph1 on December 21, 2020, 11:44:54 am
Hi  jobitjoseph1
So it seems yours is later than mine.
Could you please upload it here so that I also can have the latest version.

When I do the platform tools low level it also shows on mine as 20201127.01 and mine is 20201118.01, so it must be integrated into the platform tools.
I just want to make sure I have the latest update on a stick.
Thanks.
Hi, frequency and time period measurement fixed with new firmware . Please find it in the attachment.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on December 21, 2020, 09:31:56 pm
I found a bug on this update 20201207.01 after installing it.
While measuring a signal from the AWG. if I switch the scope to autorange, when I increase the frequency from the Gen, the scope freeze.
I then rebooted and after this the Auto Set did not work anymore.
I then went back to autorange, pressed auto set again and this time it worked.

Another thing that bothers me, if there is an AC signal present on a DC level and I want to measure just the AC signal, when I switch the input coupling to AC, as soon as I press Auto Set, it jumps back to DC and measure the DC value.

Its impossible to measure a small  AC waveform, such as an audio signal, which rides on DC level by using Auto Set.
Auto Set should not switch the Input Coupling. That is why I tried autorange to see if I could do it with that.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on December 21, 2020, 09:49:56 pm
In a way I am glad that they delayed shipping my scope, the latest shipping date is now December 28.  Hopefully by then they will fix all these stupid bugs, although I am not holding my breath.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Perepandel on December 25, 2020, 03:31:42 pm
You should write them informing of this, @cmaass
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on December 26, 2020, 05:09:00 pm
Banggood shipment of the DSO2D10 was postponed again, now to January 4.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on December 27, 2020, 06:47:43 pm
I did inform Hantek Support of the Bug.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: vistorik on December 28, 2020, 04:23:36 pm
Here is the link to download the platform tools.: https://fil.email/7UJkVuFZ
This link does not work. Message:
"Sorry, but this transfer expired December 26, 2020 12:38 PM"
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on December 29, 2020, 04:49:01 pm
After reporting the Bug to Hantek they've sent me the latest update. Download beneath.

I will try to upload the platform tools to filemail again.
It is a very large file that is why it cannot be posted on this forum.
Will post the link later on.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: jobitjoseph1 on December 29, 2020, 05:35:40 pm
After reporting the Bug to Hantek they've sent me the latest update. Download beneath.

I will try to upload the platform tools to filemail again.
It is a very large file that is why it cannot be posted on this forum.
Will post the link later on.
the bug fixed with this update?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on December 29, 2020, 06:02:31 pm
They said so yes, but I still have to check if it is fixed.
Did not load the update yet.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on December 29, 2020, 07:15:27 pm
OK, I uploaded the new firmware. Firmware is now b000.
I now even found more bugs on the Autorange.
The Scope freeze under various circumstances which is not consistent, it changes.

Sometimes it freeze when I switch on the AWG, sometimes when I change the AWG frequency, etc. etc.
Also the number of cycles that it displays is sometime up to ten, sometimes only five and so on.
As soon as I want too use Autorange on single period it sometimes freeze.

The input still switches to DC when pressing Auto Set.
They told me it is supposed to do that, which I cannot believe.
It is stupid,it should not.

Below is a new  link to download the platform tools.
It is only available for 7 days.
Just follow the instructions in the readme_English.docx file in the platform tools folder.
I just want to add, after I used the platform tools whenever I press the System Info function key in the Utility Menu it no longer shows the Model number, Serial number and Hardware info, those are undefined.
It only shows the Software and Firmware numbers.

What I found found was that after I loaded the Android driver with sunxi-fel uboot images/uboot_fastboot.bin ,  when I ran the cmds.bat file , when the scope rebooted it freezed,
I then switched the scope off and on again by pressing the button underneath while switching it on. (I used a matchstick to press the button, that way you cannot short out anything.)
After that I ran the cmds.bat file straight away whithout using sunxi-fel, since the Android file is now already present. It then booted without any problems.
If it shows as a Winusb device under Device Manager with the driver info as you saw in the Zadig-2.5 utility, you can just use the cmds.bat file whenever the scope freezes during rebooting and if you are unable to reload the update file. Although it only happened to me that one time.

The Phoenixsuite_CN.msi is in Chinese, so if it does not install just try again by pressing other buttons ;D. The first time that I used the zadig_2,5 utility the scope came up as an unknown device and I had to re-install Phoenixsuite again and reloaded the win driver with zadig before it showed up correctly.

Here is the link to download the platform tools.: https://fil.email/OQeqFVAX
Best of luck!
Disclaimer: You use these at your own risk, if it does nor work, don't blame me, although according to them one cannot brick the  Allwinner Controller. I don't know.

If anyone can figure out how to get the system info back again please let us know.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: jobitjoseph1 on January 01, 2021, 07:03:27 am
OK, I uploaded the new firmware. Firmware is now b000.
I now even found more bugs on the Autorange.
The Scope freeze under various circumstances which is not consistent, it changes.

Sometimes it freeze when I switch on the AWG, sometimes when I change the AWG frequency, etc. etc.
Also the number of cycles that it displays is sometime up to ten, sometimes only five and so on.
As soon as I want too use Autorange on single period it sometimes freeze.

The input still switches to DC when pressing Auto Set.
They told me it is supposed to do that, which I cannot believe.
It is stupid,it should not.

Below is a new  link to download the platform tools.
It is only available for 7 days.
Just follow the instructions in the readme_English.docx file in the platform tools folder.
I just want to add, after I used the platform tools whenever I press the System Info function key in the Utility Menu it no longer shows the Model number, Serial number and Hardware info, those are undefined.
It only shows the Software and Firmware numbers.

What I found found was that after I loaded the Android driver with sunxi-fel uboot images/uboot_fastboot.bin ,  when I ran the cmds.bat file , when the scope rebooted it freezed,
I then switched the scope off and on again by pressing the button underneath while switching it on. (I used a matchstick to press the button, that way you cannot short out anything.)
After that I ran the cmds.bat file straight away whithout using sunxi-fel, since the Android file is now already present. It then booted without any problems.
If it shows as a Winusb device under Device Manager with the driver info as you saw in the Zadig-2.5 utility, you can just use the cmds.bat file whenever the scope freezes during rebooting and if you are unable to reload the update file. Although it only happened to me that one time.

The Phoenixsuite_CN.msi is in Chinese, so if it does not install just try again by pressing other buttons ;D. The first time that I used the zadig_2,5 utility the scope came up as an unknown device and I had to re-install Phoenixsuite again and reloaded the win driver with zadig before it showed up correctly.

Here is the link to download the platform tools.: https://fil.email/OQeqFVAX
Best of luck!
Disclaimer: You use these at your own risk, if it does nor work, don't blame me, although according to them one cannot brick the  Allwinner Controller. I don't know.

If anyone can figure out how to get the system info back again please let us know.
For me it never freezed. But with AWG on auto set doesn't works properly ( works fine with square wave out) but with any other type of wave form auto set is not working properly, especially at lower frequencies. With higher frequencies ,ie MHz range it's works.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on January 01, 2021, 06:32:40 pm
Hi  jobitjoseph1

Do you mean you did the platform tools. If so did did you run cmds.bat straight after loading the Android driver with sunxi-fel.
If I do that my scope,when it reboots, get as far as the 2nd Hantek logo then it does not boot any farther.
I have to restart it with pressing the button underneath and then run cmds.bat directly.
Is  your System Info still displaying the model no etc.?
Mine displays everything as  undefined, except for the software and firmware versions.
I still have a lot of problems with my Autorange setting.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: jobitjoseph1 on January 01, 2021, 07:01:51 pm
Hi  jobitjoseph1

Do you mean you did the platform tools. If so did did you run cmds.bat straight after loading the Android driver with sunxi-fel.
If I do that my scope,when it reboots, get as far as the 2nd Hantek logo then it does not boot any farther.
I have to restart it with pressing the button underneath and then run cmds.bat directly.
Is  your System Info still displaying the model no etc.?
Mine displays everything as  undefined, except for the software and firmware versions.
I still have a lot of problems with my Autorange setting.
Hi cmaas
     I was talking about the dso3kb_20201221 update. The bugs you have mentioned .And after posting the previous reply, my scope just frozen when I pressed single seq button. As you mentioned earlier this build has more bugs than the previous one , the bugs aren't even consistent
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on January 03, 2021, 06:43:48 pm
Banggood shipment of the DSO2D10 was postponed again, now to January 12.  This is a JOKE, already more than a month pass their original shipping date!  I suspect it's Hantek problem not Banggood as they are trying to fix all their bugs.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on January 03, 2021, 07:04:14 pm
Exactly jobitjoseph1, I find new and different bugs every time I try to use the scope.

If you guys get any bugs you can report it to support@hantek,com, they send it to wangshuang@hantek.com. This person will definitely get back to you and then you can email directly to him. but please send first to support.

He is very helpfull, it's him that has sent me all the software and updates.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: jobitjoseph1 on January 08, 2021, 06:05:04 pm
Anybody received any new update?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on January 08, 2021, 08:30:05 pm
No, no updates.

I saw that eventually Hantek is now displaying the DSO2000 series on their website, but the only download is a user manual so far, no firmware updates or any other software.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: tinhead on January 09, 2021, 10:09:28 pm
ahh, another Hantek to hack. I don't have it yet (still having the 10yrs old Tekway/Hantek, frack that, it works still) and probably will not buy it now (as my Siglent works better), but maybe will take a look on firmware.

To decrypt firmware use dso3000c as passpharse, e.g.

Code: [Select]
cmd.exe /C echo dso3000c| gpg --batch --passphrase-fd 0 --output decrypted.tar.gz -d dso3kb_20201207.upk

@cmaass can you upload the platform tools once again somewhere?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: tinhead on January 09, 2021, 10:25:48 pm
but maybe will take a look on firmware.

looks very similar to what i saw all the years on hantek, one can easily create own update file to dump everything to usb:

- create your own do_update.sh
- leave the "special" file in update, the firmware updater checks for it and let you do whatever you wish as long the file is there
- leave the manifes.xml as is, this one is new thing after Hantek changed their ui things, they even didn't edited it (it shows still dso4000 series)
- finally edit the upend file, to have only these files (in root of fw update file) and dirs you really have
- encrypt it with gpg and the dso3000c passpharse, tar/tar/gz and you're done with custom firmware update

Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: tinhead on January 09, 2021, 10:31:50 pm
Mine displays everything as  undefined, except for the software and firmware versions.

yeah, probably something missing, in the bin file there is "undefined".

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-hantek-dso2x1x-models/?action=dlattach;attach=1148514;image)

My proposal, make firmware update which will dump everything, and let someone else to dump his/her DSO, so you can compare to yours.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on January 11, 2021, 06:59:46 pm
@tinhead

Right, will upload the platform tools once again to filemail

Will post the link as soon as it is finished.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on January 11, 2021, 09:42:11 pm
OK, here is the download link for the Platform Tools.

It's only valid for seven days.

Remember to read the readme_English.doc file how to use.

Use at own Risk.

https://fil.email/b1bkxGX2
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: vistorik on January 14, 2021, 11:24:28 am
new firmware dso3kb_20210105: http://www.hantek.com/download?key=fjzl&sid=3&pid=17182&word= (http://www.hantek.com/download?key=fjzl&sid=3&pid=17182&word=)
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on January 23, 2021, 05:18:40 pm
Either Banggood or Hantek, probably the latter have major problems shipping these new Hantek DSO2X1X scopes.  I ordered mine on December 8 from Banggood and they have pushed back the shipping date more than a dozens of times, now it is "scheduled" for February 4.   I am NOT holding my breath for this shipment date either.  Banggood also raised slightly the prices of these scopes since December.

It looks like Hantek rushed the initial shipments of these scope and now they have stooped it completely.  I believe they are trying to fix all their problems before resuming shipments.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: pupkinv on January 24, 2021, 12:52:36 pm
It will be decent if you write your posts in the language the topic starts in
Будет вежливо, если вы будете писать сообщения языком топикстартера
Буде дуже ввічливо, якщо будете писати повідомлення мовою топікстартера
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Piton on January 25, 2021, 12:28:52 pm
 :clap:
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on January 25, 2021, 05:41:22 pm
I've got one of these (DSO2D15) on order as my first scope since College. Hoping it arrives today. Been curious about what's inside, considering the claimed specs vs unusually lower price than the 5000P series this unit claims to replace. So far I've only found few internal pics on an aliexpress review. Looks like Hantek has saved quite a bit on the design by going with some really off-brand chips. I'm most curious about their choice for an ADC in this unit.

Looks like an Allwinner F1C200s with an FPGA marked Lemontree 2090 along with a few other mysteries in there.. Tried to track down any information about this "Lemontree" FPGA chip, but it seem to be new to Hantek with this DSO2 series. Only references I could find were Hantek's Register Product links on hantek.com going to a "lemontreex" site that looks to be a potential online shop from Hantek themselves. I'm curious if Hantek has created their own "lemontree 2090" FPGA or rebadged something else low cost to fill the role.

That Allwinner chip itself looks interesting to explore. Even considering its datasheet mentions native touchscreen and video out support within the chip itself. Not expecting much as an entry level bench scope, but its implied data-sheet specs are impressive for the class / features / cost. Looking forward to a closer look.

Here is that "LemonTree2090" FPGA image saved from that online review I found:
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: vistorik on January 26, 2021, 12:49:06 pm
I've got one of these (DSO2D15) on order as my first scope since College. Hoping it arrives today. Been curious about what's inside, considering the claimed specs vs unusually lower price than the 5000P series this unit claims to replace. So far I've only found few internal pics on an aliexpress review. Looks like Hantek has saved quite a bit on the design by going with some really off-brand chips. I'm most curious about their choice for an ADC in this unit.

Looks like an Allwinner F1C200s with an FPGA marked Lemontree 2090 along with a few other mysteries in there.. Tried to track down any information about this "Lemontree" FPGA chip, but it seem to be new to Hantek with this DSO2 series. Only references I could find were Hantek's Register Product links on hantek.com going to a "lemontreex" site that looks to be a potential online shop from Hantek themselves. I'm curious if Hantek has created their own "lemontree 2090" FPGA or rebadged something else low cost to fill the role.

That Allwinner chip itself looks interesting to explore. Even considering its datasheet mentions native touchscreen and video out support within the chip itself. Not expecting much as an entry level bench scope, but its implied data-sheet specs are impressive for the class / features / cost. Looking forward to a closer look.

Here is that "LemonTree2090" FPGA image saved from that online review I found:
[attachimg=1]
There is an Allwinner F1C200s processor. To his PINs 63 and 64 - UART1 on the board there are TXD and RXD contacts; to PINs 68 and 69 - USB_M and USB_P contacts. There is a WINBOND 25N01GVZEIG NAND flash memory.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on January 27, 2021, 06:16:17 am
My new Hantek DSO2D15 arrived today after a few postal delays. Most issues I could find (so far) were greatly improved by applying the latest firmware update.

Of course its an entry level scope, but still offers far more than I could ever need at the moment. As long as I avoid pushing its maximum limits, it works exactly as expected for the price. It runs totally silent without any fans or heatsinks inside and only becomes slightly warm overall. Looks to be quite power efficient running off a simple 5V, +8V and -8V internal power supply. Most warmth seems to come from the power supply area. build quality looks pretty good with overall cost savings all kept within the reduced and simplified mainboard components.

Data acquisition engine looks quite unique, with Two big chips tightly interconnected together. The front ends feeds directly into the first large chip with all the numbers rubbed off. Only the last digit "3" remains. Two tiny caps sit directly across the input pins on the chip. everything links into the Lemontree 2090 that also controls the front panel inputs by the looks of it.

Can't beat the price for features considering the wavegen is also included, I'm more than happy to trade quite a bit of raw performance for all the same features, silence and efficiency at a such a lower price point, as I'm only using it for very basic troubleshooting. I could totally see this unit fully moddable to run from a 12v battery power, there is plenty of extra room for some nice big cells in there.

Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: vistorik on January 27, 2021, 12:04:11 pm
My new Hantek DSO2D15 arrived today after a few postal delays. Most issues I could find (so far) were greatly improved by applying the latest firmware update.

Of course its an entry level scope, but still offers far more than I could ever need at the moment. As long as I avoid pushing its maximum limits, it works exactly as expected for the price. It runs totally silent without any fans or heatsinks inside and only becomes slightly warm overall. Looks to be quite power efficient running off a simple 5V, +8V and -8V internal power supply. Most warmth seems to come from the power supply area. build quality looks pretty good with overall cost savings all kept within the reduced and simplified mainboard components.

Data acquisition engine looks quite unique, with Two big chips tightly interconnected together. The front ends feeds directly into the first large chip with all the numbers rubbed off. Only the last digit "3" remains. Two tiny caps sit directly across the input pins on the chip. everything links into the Lemontree 2090 that also controls the front panel inputs by the looks of it.

Can't beat the price for features considering the wavegen is also included, I'm more than happy to trade quite a bit of raw performance for all the same features, silence and efficiency at a such a lower price point, as I'm only using it for very basic troubleshooting. I could totally see this unit fully moddable to run from a 12v battery power, there is plenty of extra room for some nice big cells in there.
Could you please post detailed photos of the board in the U18 and U35 area, in the F1C200s and WINBOND 25N01GVZEIG flash memory area, as well as in the generator BNC connector area. Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on January 27, 2021, 03:35:51 pm
I'll break out the DSLR after work and try to get some good images. There are also a few small items on the underside of the board from what I can see.

U18 is a LMH6702MA with a National Semiconductor logo - (1.7-GHz Ultra-Low Distortion Wideband Op Amp)
U35 looks like potentially capture memory with its details scrubbed off.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: vistorik on January 27, 2021, 04:15:15 pm
U35 looks like potentially capture memory with its details scrubbed off.
U35 is obviously a DAC for AWG. It could be, for example, 3PD5651E or DAC902.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on January 27, 2021, 04:43:54 pm
@Algoma, I am curious when and from whom did you order your scope?  I ordered mine from Banggood more than a month ago and still it wasn't even shipped.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on January 27, 2021, 04:58:28 pm
@Algoma, I am curious when and from whom did you order your scope?  I ordered mine from Banggood more than a month ago and still it wasn't even shipped.

Aliexpress Seller "Hantek Official Store"
Order was on Jan 19 - Their note said restock was on Jan 21, 2021,
Shipped Jan 22 2021 free shipping via DHL to Canada
Received Jan 26, 2021
Date of manufacture sticker on the unit said Jan 4, 2021, Firmware was still older 2020 version and needed to be updated to the Jan 2021 update.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on January 27, 2021, 06:50:16 pm
When I bought my DSO2D10 through Aliexpress there was only one seller that had it in stock at that time and only the DSO2D10.
The DSO2D15 was not available yet.  So i bought the D10.
A you can see on the attached photos the mainboard is exactly the same as that of the D15. The only difference is the clock number.
Here one can nearly see the number of the chip that goes with the Lemontree chip.
So I suppose the only difference is the software.
Where are the hackers so that I can change mine to a D15. ;)
 
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on January 27, 2021, 07:11:19 pm
Where are the hackers so that I can change mine to a D15. ;)

The numbers on your u35 (AWG DAC) are still intact, see if you can get a closeup of that (Above the Lemontree) along with the U18 Op Amp beside it.

Even that that big ADC is nearly readable still. I note that your D10 is missing the tiny little caps they tacked across the input pins of the ADC in my DSO2D15. The flux residue indicates this was a manual adjustment of the latest revision.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on January 27, 2021, 07:34:44 pm
@Algoma.  The DAC is a DAC902E.
Try to check the Square wave with your test probe switched to x10 and also earth the probe as well to the calibration signal earth. That should get rid of the ringing.
Max Frequency of the Square wave from the AWG is 10 MHz.
Do you have any problems with your Autorange settings.
I have lots of bugs with the 20210105 firmware. Inconsistent freezes for example.
The frequency measured on the DVM also changes fro MHz to KHz when I select Autorange.
The CH2 DVM measures in mVolts instead of volts.
CH1 DVM does not show the minus sign.
Its also difficult to auto measure a small AC signal that rides on a DC level since the scope locks to the largest signal in Auto Set mode and Autorange mode. Even if one selected AC coupling it will automatically switch it to DC coupling which is stupid. It should remain at the input coupling mode that one selected, as with an Analoque scope which has a hardware switch for that purpose.
Another thing that I don't like is when one set the trigger mode eg. to Video, it switches back to Edge when one presses Auto Set.
 I informed Hantek Support about these but I don't know if they will do anything about it.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on January 27, 2021, 07:51:56 pm
@Algoma The  OpAmp U18 is a LMH67.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on January 27, 2021, 08:51:47 pm
@cmaass Your PCB date code indicates 2034   (2020 Week:34)  (Aug. 17, 2020-Aug. 23, 2020)  -  considering Initial Design Date 2020.8.17 marked on the board, yours seems to be from one of the very first batches.

I was feeding the output of the Wavegen into a BK Precision1590 100Mhz Analog Scope at 10X. Its only the Squarewave that showed the ringing.  its likely my lack of proper measurement method. I think Dave had presented a video on this topic already. The December firmware had the square wave timing jumping the pulse width between two positions, like it was intermittently varying the duty cycle, the January Firmware update had resolved this.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on January 28, 2021, 07:38:44 am
Considering the Preference for TI parts, and the remaining partial digits in the image from @cmaass

I'm tossing in a guess of ADC08D502CIYB for that ADC. 500Msps, two channel. it seems to fit, but it doesn't meet the Single Channel 1Gsps specs.
I would expect to see a ADC08D500CIYB with its Dual Edge Sample Interleave feature, for the 1Gsps single channel mode. They're pin compatible, But the 502 would only have 500Msps in Single channel mode. Cost savings yes, but wrong part. Could that be a difference between the 100Mhz model and the 150Mhz model? or they put in the wrong part on the early models thinking of a bit of cost savings? .. that or the scratches just look like a 2 instead of a 0

Looking at the datasheet, It's quite a powerful ADC choice for this scope.

The Data acquisition engine alone shows so much potential, it just needs to be realized with software improvements. Considering the cost of some of these parts, Hantek must be currently selling these units on a razor thin margin. Seems like a great deal for this class of scope, especially given the Wave Gen feature.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: xuraax on January 29, 2021, 01:30:00 pm
Recently I have been considering purchasing the Hantek 51XX version but luckily fell upon this thread for the newer DSO2X1X which is seems obviously to be a better deal.

Can anybody suggest the best deal available out there including any possible discount coupons I may be overlooking?

Also what is the most recent operating system for this scope?

Regards
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on January 29, 2021, 02:49:01 pm
@xuraax
Banggood's new user coupon has the best discount, but their price has gone up due to demand.  Generally Aliexpress sellers seem to have the fastest shipping options available, but watch DHL for their hidden brokerage fees after shipping, they usually add another $25 at delivery.  I took DHL shipping cause I wanted to have it sooner, no matter the cost.  I fully expect these to start appearing from Amazon sellers soon as stock gets into their hands.

http://hantek.com/products/detail/17182 (http://hantek.com/products/detail/17182)  The latest firmware (Operating system) is available from Hantek's site, currently dated Jan 05, 2021 for the latest release.
The hardware looks good, while the software remains a work in progress. Its pretty easy to update the software from the front panel USB as improvements are released.


Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on January 29, 2021, 05:33:31 pm
The best deal I found out to be from Banggood using this https://couponsfromchina.com/hantek-dso2d10-digital-oscilloscope-coupon-price/ (https://couponsfromchina.com/hantek-dso2d10-digital-oscilloscope-coupon-price/) 15% off coupon.  The only problem is that they don't have any scopes in stock and I have been waiting since before Christmas for shipment as you can read in some of my previous posts.  If you find anyone that still have these scopes in stock then they are Hantek's initial shipment which seems like they halted since then. 

I believe the initial release of these scopes had some Hardware problems which cannot be fixed with software update by users and that is the reason for the shipments halting.  At this point, I would wait with any new orders to make sure you get their latest versions.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on January 29, 2021, 09:11:38 pm
I've updated my reply above about the ADC in this scope. There are two models of the chip, one ADC08D500 that meets the claimed specs. And another lower cost version (ADC08D502) that lacks the feature needed to achieve the 1Gsps in single channel mode. Trouble is that @cmaass 's picture appears to be the 502 in their first batch scope.

Is there a test anyone can think of to verify the actual single channel Sample rate?

I wonder if this could be related to the production halt.. getting the right chips in there, The two models are pin-compatible. could also explain why the model numbers are scratched off  :-BROKE .  The wholesale cost difference per 1K chips looks to be only $30ea cost savings between the two models.  Or the difference between the D10 and D15 models.

???
??  D10 ~ 2x500Msps (100Mhz) = "1Gsps"
??  D15 ~ 1000Msps (150Mhz)= 1Gsps (@+$30)
???
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on January 29, 2021, 11:16:23 pm
Yes my DSO2D15 has 1Gsps in single channel mode, Answered my own question.

1) Set Display set to Dots to show sample points
2) Capture Single Sequence at 100ns / Div (Less than this, and it shows vectors instead of dots when you zoom in)
3) Zoom in and check the sample dots at 2ns/div

500Msps has sample period of 2ns  (One dot per Divsion when viewed at 2ns/div)
1Gsps has a sample period of 1ns   (Two dots per division when viewed at 2ns/div)

Must be the ADC08D500 in there.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: dmulligan on January 30, 2021, 12:53:16 am
I am looking for a beginner scope and came across the new Hantek DSO2X1X family.  While comparing features I noticed that the feature sets listed on the web site and aliexpress do not list waveform capture rate.  I found something in the manual in the downloads tab on this page http://www.hantek.com/products/detail/17182 (http://www.hantek.com/products/detail/17182) 

The closest thing I have found in the manual was "Acquisition Rate, typical" which gives this description "Up to 2000 waveform per second per channel (Normal acquisition mode, no measurement)"

Can anyone confirm what the waveform capture rate on these scopes actually is?  If it is really 2000wfms/s, isn't that really bad?  Even the 6 year old Rigol DS1054Z does 30,000wfms/s.

Thanks,
David
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on January 30, 2021, 01:39:29 am
@dmulligan  Yes, the rate is lower compared to other scopes due to the Allwinner main CPU, but plenty fine for this class of scope. Its already far beyond the refresh rate of the display, and has minimal effect on single triggered captures. Waveforms per second are mostly useful for capturing unusual, rare and intermittent events.  basically indicating how many times per second the main CPU can look through current data for interesting events and statistics while troubleshooting glitchy complex high speed circuits.

Simply measuring responses times and looking at waveforms have minimal need for the waveforms/s statistic. 2K waveforms is still quite a bit to look through in one second. There are dedicated special hardware triggers modes that make up it, by letting the Capture engine make the decision of what to trigger on and send only those to the CPU for review.

Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: xuraax on January 30, 2021, 04:10:54 pm
@upsss,

thank you for your reply. How would I know when the technical issues have been fixed?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Shannon on January 30, 2021, 04:37:09 pm
I prefer HANTEK DSO4104B, those accessory are as same as agilent, looks perfect.

I heard about Hantek was the OEM of Agilent Oscilloscope.

Does somebody know how to hack these serial, the bandwidth and memory spec is a disaster |O.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: dmulligan on January 30, 2021, 04:54:04 pm
@Algoma Your response led me to find an interesting article called "The Truth about Oscilloscope Waveform Update Rates (and why not to fall for it)". Obviously I need to do some more reading before I can choose the right scope for me.

Thank you.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on January 31, 2021, 06:52:23 am
@xuraax, I would wait until Banggood start to ship these scopes again.  Like I said, I ordered my DSO2D10 more than a month ago and I am still waiting.  Their latest shipment date is Feb. 4 but I would not count on that as they changed it in the last minute several times.  They promised to notify me once they actually ship it so then I can post it here.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: xuraax on January 31, 2021, 12:34:19 pm
@upsss. OK. I will. In the meantime, this was the first time I heard about the site couponsfromchina.com. Are there any similar sites out there I should know about? thanks
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on January 31, 2021, 03:55:25 pm
I wouldn't wait too long, if this is the scope you choose. A pre order sould be fine. Or pick and AliExpress seller that already has them in stock. I've been seeing the prices rising since I got mine. slowly, but they're already $20 more than one week ago.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on January 31, 2021, 06:26:14 pm
It looks like Banggood has now 25 prerecords for the DSO2D10, when I ordered mine they had only 2 or 3.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Mark5 on February 02, 2021, 02:56:53 pm
Bought mine (2C10) from Aliexpress "Hantek 'official' store".
Received it in a bit more than one week.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on February 02, 2021, 08:04:51 pm
@Mark5  You're the first to report having a DSO2C10, suppose you could take a look inside and perhaps post a photo of that board. I'm curious what the differences might be to the D Series with / without the AWG, and if your board might still have the same hardware as the DSO2D15.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Mark5 on February 02, 2021, 08:57:03 pm
I'll try to do it this week end.
My bet is it's the exact same board as the 2D10 (and probably 2D15).
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Piton on February 03, 2021, 07:07:02 pm
You can’t argue. Photos are already there. The boards are the same. With a good cable, my C10 has a frequency range of up to 200 MHz.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: salex8 on February 03, 2021, 08:04:55 pm
Yes my DSO2D15 has 1Gsps in single channel mode, Answered my own question.

1) Set Display set to Dots to show sample points
2) Capture Single Sequence at 100ns / Div (Less than this, and it shows vectors instead of dots when you zoom in)
3) Zoom in and check the sample dots at 2ns/div

500Msps has sample period of 2ns  (One dot per Divsion when viewed at 2ns/div)
1Gsps has a sample period of 1ns   (Two dots per division when viewed at 2ns/div)

Must be the ADC08D500 in there.

Sorry I didn't understand In DSO2C10 ADC08D500 or ADC08D502?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on February 03, 2021, 08:57:22 pm
Most likely the ADC is the Texas Instruments ADC08D500

A previous picture from an early DSO2D10 seemed to show the other ADC model due to a few questionable scratches. The actual sample rate can be checked by looking at the sampled dots at the fastest time setting of 2ns/Div. At 1GSa/S the scope should record a data point every 1ns, and have some vertical variation to show that its not just averaging in an extra dot.

The datasheet shows ENOB @ 250 MHz Input 7.5 Bits (typ) .. That ADC can handle far more than its being used for, before it hits its limits.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: jono80 on February 04, 2021, 07:25:16 am
I received my DSO2C10 last week and had a look inside, it has the same board as the others we've seen (eg. DS02D10, DSO2D15), the silk screen says 'DSO2D15_V1.0 2020.8.17'.  The part number is scrubbed off one of the large ICs.

Some components are missing around the EXT TRIG/GEN OUT connector which I guess rules out a software change to enable the wave gen (without adding the missing parts).  Edit: there are more missing parts above the main ICs.

Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Piton on February 04, 2021, 12:39:35 pm
Strange, the top photo must have a relay. Everyone has it.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on February 04, 2021, 05:49:27 pm
Luckily, I was not holding my breath.  New Banggood's shipment day moved again, now it is February 13.  Next week it will be TWO months since my original order.  Last time I checked they had 28 preorders of the DSO2D10.

I believe when Hantek finally starts shipping again these scopes (ver. 2.0), the new hardware will look a lot different.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Microcheap on February 04, 2021, 09:03:34 pm
I believe when Hantek finally starts shipping again these scopes (ver. 2.0), the new hardware will look a lot different.

That is a possibility. I have asked Hantek and their answer was that the models DSO2D10 and DSO2D15 are out of stock, apparently they (and many other manufacturers in China) are having trouble sourcing ICs for their products. The forecast is to start resuming the deliveries of these models in May.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on February 04, 2021, 09:13:50 pm
The forecast is to start resuming the deliveries of these models in May.
Who said that?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on February 04, 2021, 09:56:11 pm
The Aliexpress vendor I ordered and received mine from, now shows 180+ in stock for the DSO2D15 and DSO2D10. Thats +100 more from last week, and considering their page shows 170 orders.. Stock is moving.  its likely that Banggood is fighting limited logistics on a large shipment for a far lower margin. It could be the supplier is fulfilling higher value direct orders first to make most profit on limited supply.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001844918818.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001844918818.html)  (Beware that DHL often adds a hidden brokerage fee on delivery.) .. but there is stock available, unfortunately now +$50 more than I paid two weeks ago.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Microcheap on February 05, 2021, 12:28:35 am
Who said that?
My contact at Hantek
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: xuraax on February 05, 2021, 06:26:25 pm
@Algoma,

The AliExpress site is interesting but I am worried one cannot use Paypal for safety. Unfortunately since Covid, buying from abroad has been quite erratic and I am not just referring to China but also to countries in Europe which for me are a lot closer to home. Many times I had to refer the issue to Paypal for a refund for items not delivered. What do you think?

regards
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on February 05, 2021, 07:30:50 pm
@xuraax  Banggood still has the best deal, especially if you get ahold of the discount coupon that was posted earlier.  Simply need to wait for them to get stock. The Aliexpress vendor simply offers DHL shipment for those that are willing to pay the extra to have it delivered within a week.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on February 05, 2021, 08:11:20 pm
The problem with AliExpress, at least here in the US is that they are now charging US State Sales Tax which is illegal, they never did that before.  They don't have any authority to collect US State Sales Tax, they do NOT give back these charges to the the US States and it is just a pure markup by AliExpress.  Banggood does NOT charge these fake taxes and depend on the State this "Tax" could be as high as 10%.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: xuraax on February 06, 2021, 07:53:36 am
@Algoma. When I tried to get to Bangood through the coupon link provided earlier Ban good ignored the coupon password completely.

In the meantime I found an Ebay seller who offered a decent price with reasonable DHL costs. The main problem here is that he asked me to wait until the 24th citing the Chinese New Year as the reason for the delay. I wonder if he was being honest?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: cmaass on February 07, 2021, 07:29:04 pm
Strange, the top photo must have a relay. Everyone has it.

I suppose the relay is used to swtch between AWG output or Trigger Input. That is why it is missing in the C series.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Vincentd on February 08, 2021, 03:01:37 pm
Hi there! im new here on EEVblog, I'm posting here because I'm interested in buying the DSO2D15. I have read all the other posts and I figured they went up in price over the past month (~70USD). Should I wait with preordering one and wait untill they get cheaper or should I place my order anyway?

Thank you in advance!

Vincent
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on February 08, 2021, 03:35:10 pm
@Vincentd The price is unlikely to go down until Banggood gets a restock and the other vendors need to compete for sales.

Banggood seems to have been raising their sell price as well.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Vincentd on February 08, 2021, 05:36:39 pm
@Algoma Thanks for your reply! I will have to think about it then if I'm going to wait for it until they get an restock or just buy it for an higher price and get it as soon as possible.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Piton on February 08, 2021, 09:14:22 pm
Strange, the top photo must have a relay. Everyone has it.

I suppose the relay is used to swtch between AWG output or Trigger Input. That is why it is missing in the C series.
So, without a relay, the external trigger is connected directly through the L11 jumper and is activated by software. With an internal trigger, the connector is connected via a relay to the generator output. On my C10, the relay is present and works when an external trigger is selected.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Vincentd on February 10, 2021, 01:27:28 pm
For anyone that owns an DSO2D1X, how does the AWG perform? Are the signals still good at 25Mhz? As example, does the square wave signal get distorted at higher frequency's? Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on February 10, 2021, 02:43:17 pm
@Vincentd Only the sinewave gets up to 25Mhz  Everything else tops out at 1, 5 or 10Mhz. I think the limitation comes from the DAC and OpAmp being on the other end of the mainboard near the FPGA that drives it. Seems like such a long signal path before it reaches the BNC output. The signal looks a bit unsteady when the scope measures its own output, but the signal appears perfectly fine when viewed on an analog scope.. I think there is a bit of timing in the software / FPGA that can be improved.  The 10Mhz Square wave looks fine on my analog scope as well (BK Precision 1590 @ 100Mhz)

Sin   0.1Hz~25MHz
Square/pulse   0.1Hz~10MHz
Triangular     0.1Hz~1MHz
Ramp/Noise   0.1Hz~1MHz
Exponent           0.1Hz~5MHz
    
Arb1   Frequency range   0.1 Hz to 10 MHz   

Though I'm able to set my ARB to 25Mhz when I haven't created or uploaded any waveforms, it just outputs a steady negative DC voltage at the set amplitude.

I like the ability set a the square wave pulse to specific high and low millivolt levels, along with the offset, and nice slow output pulse frequency. If only it had a duty cycle sweep function.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: upsss on February 10, 2021, 03:58:36 pm
@Algoma, does the Sinusoidal output have any sweep capability?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on February 10, 2021, 04:50:42 pm
@upsss It does not have a sweep feature in these units. Hantek indicated this was only a feature on their 6000 series.

I can't imagine a basic sweep function (Step through a frequency range over a specified time period) would be impossible to add to the software, considering the hardware available inside this unit. Have the main CPU direct the FPGA to increase frequency of the AWG every few milliseconds. It doesn't have to be that fast of a step.. Timing of the step change is the most complicated bit, and seems to be the primary challenge Hantek struggles with.

I note on my analog scope that adjusting the frequency of the AWG causes it to totally stop output, then initialize a new waveform.. This could be vastly improved in software updates alone.

The hardware engineers at Hantek do a great job for the price point, but the software team needs a bit of improvement.  :-/O
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Vincentd on February 10, 2021, 05:46:51 pm
@Vincentd Only the sinewave gets up to 25Mhz  Everything else tops out at 1, 5 or 10Mhz. I think the limitation comes from the DAC and OpAmp being on the other end of the mainboard near the FPGA that drives it. Seems like such a long signal path before it reaches the BNC output. The signal looks a bit unsteady when the scope measures its own output, but the signal appears perfectly fine when viewed on an analog scope.. I think there is a bit of timing in the software / FPGA that can be improved.  The 10Mhz Square wave looks fine on my analog scope as well (BK Precision 1590 @ 100Mhz)

Sin   0.1Hz~25MHz
Square/pulse   0.1Hz~10MHz
Triangular     0.1Hz~1MHz
Ramp/Noise   0.1Hz~1MHz
Exponent           0.1Hz~5MHz
    
Arb1   Frequency range   0.1 Hz to 10 MHz   

Though I'm able to set my ARB to 25Mhz when I haven't created or uploaded any waveforms, it just outputs a steady negative DC voltage at the set amplitude.

I like the ability set a the square wave pulse to specific high and low millivolt levels, along with the offset, and nice slow output pulse frequency. If only it had a duty cycle sweep function.


Thanks for the detailed explanation! I really appreciate it!
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: MentalFloss on February 10, 2021, 11:54:28 pm
Would it be possible, by adding an extra BNC connector and tapping off at a suitable place in the circuit, to output the waveform gen signal at the same time as using the external trigger?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: emolitor on February 17, 2021, 01:35:18 pm
Received a 'VIP' discount link from Banggood and managed to order the DSO2D15 for under £180.00. Still somewhat dubious if and when it will ever ship but williing to take a bit of risk here as I can't afford much more for a scope. Will see after golden week if the order gets cancelled or not.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Mark5 on February 24, 2021, 12:26:13 pm
New firmware released today.
Will try it tonight.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on February 24, 2021, 03:18:06 pm
A few kilobytes smaller than the January update, with yesterday's Date stamp (Feb23,2021), no release notes. Looking forward to testing for improvements.

So far the scope has done everything I've asked of it, and any quirks are quickly resolved with the restore defaults button.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: vistorik on February 25, 2021, 08:51:22 pm
Did somebody see this?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: dmulligan on February 26, 2021, 12:28:06 am
@vistorik Did you populate the missing parts?  Do you have a list of the parts and their approximate cost?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on February 26, 2021, 05:19:05 am
Tested the Feb 2021 firmware update, Noted improvements with sample rate selection, now keeping a 1Gsa/s at 40K memory points instead of dropping in half.  Bit more responsive scrolling and moving waveforms. seems alright so far.

Trigger and display refresh seemed a bit changed in some way.. more 'reactive'?.

Still a bit questionable trying to navigate through single shot captured waveforms.. Overall you need to fit everything just right before taking a sample. Zooming and scrolling for additional data is unpredictable and seems to drop data that could have been sampled. It auto sets the sample rate to best fill the display, instead of capturing everything it COULD capture into memory. Its better to take another new sample than Trying to pan and zoom through data.

Measurements are based on what is displayed on screen instead of what is in memory. zooming in and out will change the calculations to be based on what is only DISPLAYED on screen instead of what is in capture memory.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: vistorik on February 26, 2021, 10:48:09 am
@vistorik Did you populate the missing parts?  Do you have a list of the parts and their approximate cost?
There is no need to populate the missing parts, if all parts of the AWG are already on the board. All you need to do is to modify the contents of the device memory WINBOND 25N01GVZEIG. It could be done with using eg of the CH341A programmer and the program NeoProgrammer. The picture shows that it is possible.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Mark5 on February 26, 2021, 09:44:40 pm
@vistorik Did you populate the missing parts?  Do you have a list of the parts and their approximate cost?
There is no need to populate the missing parts, if all parts of the AWG are already on the board. All you need to do is to modify the contents of the device memory WINBOND 25N01GVZEIG. It could be done with using eg of the CH341A programmer and the program NeoProgrammer. The picture shows that it is possible.
Any clue on who did that and what he modified to acheive this ?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: vistorik on February 27, 2021, 11:22:28 am
@vistorik Did you populate the missing parts?  Do you have a list of the parts and their approximate cost?
There is no need to populate the missing parts, if all parts of the AWG are already on the board. All you need to do is to modify the contents of the device memory WINBOND 25N01GVZEIG. It could be done with using eg of the CH341A programmer and the program NeoProgrammer. The picture shows that it is possible.
Any clue on who did that and what he modified to acheive this ?
The device memory dump contains several identical fragments containing the model number, serial number of the device, etc. The idea is to try to change the model number in the damp, write the changes to the empty 25N01GVZEIG and solder it in place of the native one.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: dmulligan on February 28, 2021, 02:42:01 am
Did the bandwidth increase from 100MHz to 150MHz when you changed the model number?
I wonder if there are other valid model numbers.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Mark5 on February 28, 2021, 10:23:47 am
FWIW, here's the "scrubbed" version of the update script.

Code: [Select]
#!/bin/sh
WORKPATH=/dso/var/run
echo "-------------------update start------------------"
cp $WORKPATH/package/root/* -rf /
cp $WORKPATH/package/fpga_i2c_kb.ko /dso/etc
cp $WORKPATH/package/spi-fpga-tn652.ko /dso/etc
cp $WORKPATH/package/load_fpga_kb.sh /dso/etc
if [ ! -d /dso/app/home/ref ]
then
mkdir /dso/app/home/ref
fi

if [ -f /mnt/udisk/do_other_update ];then
chmod +x /mnt/udisk/do_other_update
/mnt/udisk/do_other_update
fi
echo "-------------------update end------------------"
sync
sync
sync
I wonder if there's something to do with the "do_other_update" (like dump the current full firmware or modify some parameters).
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: dmulligan on February 28, 2021, 03:44:10 pm
I just reread this thread and it seems that Hantek sometimes populates the relay X1.  Does anyone have any guesses as to which units have this populated?  Has anyone compared serial numbers or production dates?
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: Algoma on February 28, 2021, 04:25:31 pm
Early production had all components populated. A more recent DSO2C10 didn't have them populated.

So far it only appears to be missing the DAC, OpAmp and Relay. Their related passives are already in place.  While its still cheaper to buy the D10 model with them already populated, it looks to be quite possible to add the extra features as an DIY upgrade.
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: pjw1234 on March 03, 2021, 01:22:59 am
Bought 2c15 a few days ago.

There are no missing parts inside.
There is a 2D model part mentioned in a photo uploaded by another member of the previous article. :-+

After the firmware update, it has been changed from a012 to b000.
Thank you for uploading the firmware in the previous article. :clap:

The frequency measurement is close to 200 MHz. Of course not -3db.

This product is really good for the price. :-+
Title: Re: New Hantek DSO2X1X models?
Post by: xuraax on March 03, 2021, 04:55:13 am
Has anybody who had placed an order back in December received their scope yet?

In the end I ordered mine through Aliexpress mainly because for the same shipping cost delivery was with DHL whereas Banggood didn't even commit to tracked.