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Offline klaus11

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New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« on: February 22, 2018, 09:25:19 am »
I found this multimeter at Farnell, On request. Any opinion or information about it.

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Re: New Keithley DMM6500
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2018, 12:17:19 pm »
Yeah I saw that but very little information available about it or when it is available.
 

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Re: New Keithley DMM6500
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2018, 12:38:33 pm »
Yes, but strange information; weight 5.5 Kg and declare an access button to facilitate navigation, which does not appear in the image.
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2018, 03:28:12 pm »
C'mon, where is DMM8520 already ?  ;D I'm hodling on 2002's though.
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2018, 03:40:56 pm »
In Farnell Russian site its under 1000€.
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2018, 04:33:25 pm »
Preliminary specifications Farnell is like a rehash of Tek DMM4050 and FLuke 8846.

The minimum range 10µA is at a disadvantage with 1µA of Keysight 34465A.
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2018, 04:41:22 pm »
C'mon, where is DMM8520 already ?  ;D I'm hodling on 2002's though.


You will lose less years eliminating the noise of the DMM7510, the 8.5 Digits?  :-\
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2018, 05:07:49 pm »
I'm hodling on 2002's though.
The VFD of older Keithley instruments looks much better than the modern LCD stuff. Also much more easy to repair and  more robust. I'll stick with older LED/VFD Keithleys, too. The internal FPGA/softcore madness of the Fluke 8846 is ugly, don't really need that in my lab, the graphical VFD is kinda nice though.
 
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2018, 05:11:01 pm »
8.5d metrology meters aren't supposed to be looked at. Sadly NFP versions of meters are usually priced MORE than regular ones.  :wtf:
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2018, 01:33:06 pm »
Keithley DMM7510  :-//
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2018, 09:30:37 am »
And now DAQ6510 appears on a website from Finland.
DAQ6510 is an acquisition multimeter system



Date Web: http://tekfinland.fi/tuotteet/uusimmat-tuoteuutuudet/keithley-daq6510-dmm-kytkinyksikko.html
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2018, 03:08:58 pm »
And now DAQ6510 appears on a website from Finland.
DAQ6510 is an acquisition multimeter system

Interesting that it is only listed in Finland.
I can not find any other specs anywhere.
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2018, 05:59:01 am »
Yes, I have downloaded catalog 2018 TEK / KEI, and there is nothing new in Keithley.
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2018, 03:59:10 pm »
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2018, 10:42:04 am »
I wound up ordering one of these for work the other day - anticipated shipping date: 25/6/2018.... :-\
 

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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2018, 11:50:42 am »
I wound up ordering one of these for work the other day - anticipated shipping date: 25/6/2018.... :-\
How did you find an ordering link?
And how much was it?

It looks like a really promising 6 1/2 digit meter.
I was thinking of getting a second DMM7500, may be I will get one of these DMM6500 first.

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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2018, 12:36:08 am »
I ordered it from Element14 Australia. It was AUD$1,475 I think

For the price, it had the right feature set I need including multiplexing.

http://au.element14.com/keithley/dmm6500/digital-multimeter-bench-6-5-digit/dp/2840447

 

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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2018, 01:40:44 am »
I'm in the market for a new bench DMM and the DMM6500 looks like my next purchase.

Where can I find it online to ship to my country?  :-//
 

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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2018, 05:56:21 am »
We will have to wait for the real Datasheet, the document contributed by Farnell is only "Application Notes". It does not say anything about ACAL either.
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2018, 10:49:40 am »
looks interesting
 

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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2018, 03:53:52 pm »
I've had it in my hand yesterday, didnt particularly like the screen resolution and felt the screen "sponged away" when touched.

Also shot a little video which I will add here soonish...
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2018, 08:23:52 pm »
I have been using an engineering sample of the 6500 for a couple of weeks now, and I really do like it. I also noticed that the screen "sponges away" a little bit, but other than that, the look&feel is very nice. The screen resolution is a little bit higher than it is on the 7510, as the screen is a bit higher. It is also much clearer, and the touch interface works very well.
After playing with this new meter for a couple of hours, going back to a 2000 series device feels weird. We are all used to the VFDs, but the LCD really does have a lot of advantages. The data logging alone, with the intuitive scrolling and zooming and a huge memory, would be enough to justify the upgrade in many cases. Another neat feature is that you can upload scripts to the meter which also change the UI and add special functionality. That seems to be very powerful. It also has a very good virtual frontpanel via LAN, which is quite useful for remote debugging.

I noticed that the 6500 also shows very low noise, and the (preliminary) specs look very good (better than all the Keysight 6.5 digit meters). As far as I understand it, It does not need ACAL to get full accuracy, and does not have it.

I don't think I should share the photos of the inside or the pricing information for Europe yet, but in my opinion, it will be a no-brainer when you have to decide between the 6.5 digit universal multimeters currently on the market.

There are still some minor firmware issues which Keithley is working on at the moment. The design team has been very responsive to feedback and suggestions during the last weeks, so I suppose they'll iron those problems out before the meter hits the market in Europe. The only thing that I still worry about is that the time required for measurement function changes is much longer than it was for the 2000 and 2010. No big deal for bench use though.
 
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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2018, 08:27:50 pm »
DMM6500. Datasheet :

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/2585589.pdf

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Re: New Keithley DMM6500 and now DAQ6510
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2018, 08:29:33 pm »
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You will lose less years eliminating the noise of the DMM7510, the 8.5 Digits?

I am not sure what you mean with that... Are you saying the 7510 is particularly noisy? This is true in the 100 mV - 10 V ranges when it is set to 10 MOhm input impedance. When you set it to "Auto" impedance (10 GOhm), it has rather low noise.
Keithley knows about this problem, and they will likely fix it with a new firmware (which will change the signal path switching in the meter).

The 6500 does not suffer from that problem.
 


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