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| w4tch0:
Assortment of cheap no name caps on the PSU. Crappy fan mounted in the worst way possible for acoustics. And then there was this non-sense with the screen and dead pixels... Now don't get me wrong. All of that is acceptable or expected if you are trying to build something as cheap as possible. But building something like that, in china, and then asking 3 times the price over something else of similar build quality does not sit well with me. |
| Keysight DanielBogdanoff:
We're exploring whether or not it's feasible to add a lister into the 1000X scopes, but only in the exploratory phase right now. I won't pretend that Keysight doesn't charge a premium for test gear. The low-cost oscilloscope market is definitely in a pricing race-to-the-bottom, and it's not a surprise that we come in at a higher price than many other manufacturers in this space. To "win" this "market" we'd have to push out scopes that simply wouldn't meet our standards on a number of different fronts. @w4tch0, is there a thread or discussion around dead screen pixels? I must have missed it and neither I nor the scope support lead have heard about it. And sure, the PSU caps aren't the best out there, but looking at the numbers the reliability of the 2-channel 1000X is insanely good. I obviously can't share numbers, but the AFR/MTBF is easily 2x better than a lot of our other gear. I've also not heard anything negative from actual users about fan noise... |
| w4tch0:
There was a fine print note in the original InfiniiVision 1000 X-Series datasheet that said that up to 5 dead/stuck pixels are not considered a defect. Seems to not be there anymore in the later revisions. Someone must've come to senses since that was frankly a bit ridiculous. The 2 channel 1000x series is on the market barely for 2 years now so I think it might be a bit early to evaluate failure rate of the electrolytic caps but if Keysight is able to "make it work" and sell enough of the units for the price all power to them. I'm not saying the scope is bad it's just a matter of (my personal) expectation for the price point. |
| Bud:
--- Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on February 13, 2019, 09:23:03 pm ---I've also not heard anything negative from actual users about fan noise... --- End quote --- Raising my hand (EDUX). Also have the power switch occasionally stuck not able to turn the device off. A bizarre mechanical fault. |
| hugo:
--- Quote ---Crappy fan mounted in the worst way possible for acoustics. --- End quote --- I have scraped the toy (ds1054z) and I got a real oscilloscope (dsox1102g) loud like a refrigerator (double price). ::) |
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