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NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017
« on: January 28, 2017, 10:05:02 pm »
Keysight are releasing a new 100MHz oscilloscope on March 1st.





I wonder what it could be  :-//
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Re: New Keysight Scope 1st March 2017
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2017, 10:27:16 pm »
How long would it take for Fungus to chime in and say the Rigol DS1054Z is way better than the 100MHz scopes Keysight is giving away?  >:D

And the event isn't better than ever because way less countries are eligible compared to last year!  :rant:
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Re: New 100MHz Keysight Scope 1st March 2017
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2017, 11:22:48 pm »




I wonder what it could be  :-//

Perhaps it's a rebadged Rigol 1054Z ;)
 

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Re: New 100MHz Keysight Scope 1st March 2017
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2017, 03:23:53 am »
YAY FREE hackable SCOPES!!!!  ;D

Doesn't matter if they're 2000s instead of 3000s, doesn't matter if they have slightly less memory than we would like, doesn't matter if keysight is cleaning out inventory before a refresh. Free scopes are good scopes and I'm excited regardless :)

EDIT: didn't see the "including our newest oscilloscope." Now I'm double hyped :)

> And the event isn't better than ever because way less countries are eligible compared to last year!  :rant:

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Re: New 100MHz Keysight Scope 1st March 2017
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2017, 03:57:39 am »
Doesn't matter if they're 2000s instead of 3000s, doesn't matter if they have slightly less memory than we would like, doesn't matter if keysight is cleaning out inventory before a refresh. Free scopes are good scopes and I'm excited regardless :)
EDIT: didn't see the "including our newest oscilloscope." Now I'm double hyped :)

Yes, they are giving away 5 of their new 100MHz scope every week day. Not clearing out an old model.
 

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Re: New 100MHz Keysight Scope 1st March 2017
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2017, 10:57:46 am »
No one's found any info yet? I'm surprised  :o
 

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Re: New 100MHz Keysight Scope 1st March 2017
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2017, 11:15:12 am »
Hi Dave,

Yeah ... it's a good movement but unfortunately not for all countries ....    :(
 

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Re: New 100MHz Keysight Scope 1st March 2017
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2017, 11:24:16 am »
More chances for us in the approved countries! >:D Nah, it's too bad that legal requirements gets in the way, everybody should be able to participate.

Dave; throw us a bone, please! (I know, I know.. you're probably under some NDA or something)

 

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Re: New 100MHz Keysight Scope 1st March 2017
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2017, 11:26:24 am »
YAY FREE hackable SCOPES!!!!  ;D

Doesn't matter if they're 2000s instead of 3000s, doesn't matter if they have slightly less memory than we would like, doesn't matter if keysight is cleaning out inventory before a refresh. Free scopes are good scopes and I'm excited regardless :)
Well you'd probably have to pay tax over the list price so free is relative and suddenly other options may be more interesting especially in the 100MHz arena 8)
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Re: New 100MHz Keysight Scope 1st March 2017
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2017, 11:30:29 am »
Yeah ... it's a good movement but unfortunately not for all countries ....    :(

I don't think people are grasping what this thread is about. It's not about the contest, Keysight have just said on their content website that they are releasing a NEW 100MHz scope on 1st March.



Usually news of a new scope gets the nerds in a frenzy  :scared:
The contest seems to have diluted the message of a new scope release. A marketing oops perhaps...

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Re: NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2017, 12:16:50 pm »
Well, it's a 100MHz scope, so pretty basic, an entry level model. Take the touchscreen out of a 3000 and whack it into a 2000, voila, new scope... My bet is still on something like this, but who knows?   :-//
 

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Re: NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2017, 12:31:23 pm »
Well, new scope design or not, I'm already in for a pre-entry and there's a one entry per day during March set-up.
And does 'Your chance to increase the number of oscilloscopes in the prize pool' mean that if there are more entries than expected Keysight will increase the prize pool?

Looks like I'm going to be busy once per day during March...  :-+
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Re: NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2017, 12:46:31 pm »
Well, it's a 100MHz scope, so pretty basic, an entry level model. Take the touchscreen out of a 3000 and whack it into a 2000, voila, new scope... My bet is still on something like this, but who knows?   :-//
I think so too. I strongly doubt Keysight is introducing a new scope which obsoletes the relatively new 2000,3000,4000 and 6000 models even though they are horrifically outdated when it comes to memory depth.
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Re: NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2017, 12:54:02 pm »
OTOH, there are 10 x MSOX4104A in the pool, what's the retail price of one of these, ~$19.500, ist this correct? And the secret new model X is given away 115 times. The total approximate retail value of all prizes accounts to $318.655. Let's see:

10 * $19.500 + 115 * X = $318.655 -> X = ~$1.075

A Grand for one of the new 100MHz scopes, that's to cheap for an upgraded 2000 series...

Sound really more like a new 1000 series or a rebranded Rigol  :-DD
 

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Re: NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2017, 01:03:30 pm »
Well, it's a 100MHz scope, so pretty basic, an entry level model. Take the touchscreen out of a 3000 and whack it into a 2000, voila, new scope... My bet is still on something like this, but who knows?   :-//
It could be thet it's the 100MHz version of a range that goes higher - but as this would be in direct competition with the 2000 series, a touchscreen-enhanced 2000 would seem the most likely in that case.
Hard to see it being worth Keysight doing something completely new in the up-to-100MHz market as there is so much competition. Maybe another rebadge?
 
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Re: New 100MHz Keysight Scope 1st March 2017
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2017, 01:41:01 pm »
Dave; throw us a bone, please! (I know, I know.. you're probably under some NDA or something)

I'm pretty sure he has found some 'barely used fully functional' unknown scopes in his dumpster - AGAIN  :-DD
 

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Re: New 100MHz Keysight Scope 1st March 2017
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2017, 01:59:33 pm »
Dave; throw us a bone, please! (I know, I know.. you're probably under some NDA or something)
I'm pretty sure he has found some 'barely used fully functional' unknown scopes in his dumpster - AGAIN  :-DD

I'm feeling lucky...
 

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Re: NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2017, 02:02:39 pm »
Hard to see it being worth Keysight doing something completely new in the up-to-100MHz market as there is so much competition. Maybe another rebadge?

Tektronix did it with the TBS series, and that starts at US$450
Granted, rehash of the ancient 2.5K chipset, but still, there is a market for that stuff, mostly in academia. Not sure whether those are essentially loss-leaders or not though to get the students in :-// But that's not The Danaher Way
 

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Re: New 100MHz Keysight Scope 1st March 2017
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2017, 02:03:03 pm »
I'm feeling lucky...

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Re: NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2017, 02:52:03 pm »
Hard to see it being worth Keysight doing something completely new in the up-to-100MHz market as there is so much competition. Maybe another rebadge?

Tektronix did it with the TBS series, and that starts at US$450

But are they actually selling ?
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Re: NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2017, 04:13:24 pm »
More and more universities in Europe are turning to Rigol gear for their labs.

The golden years where Tektronix used to have a monopoly position in academic latitudes are long gone.

And I am convinced that the TBS series with poor specs isn't going to change anything about that.
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Re: NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2017, 05:15:31 pm »
The Tektronix TBS series have some very specific features which could make them more appropriate for school use than a general purpose oscilloscope.
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Re: NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2017, 05:32:00 pm »
I already want one, as long it's original Keysight design and not a rebadged Rigol / etc.
 

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Re: NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2017, 05:56:49 pm »
Ok, I think this is it:
InfiniiVision 1000 X-Series
DSOX1102G, DSOX1102A, EDUX1002A, EDUX1002G

https://fccid.io/MSIP-REM-Kst-1A15150
http://www.keysight.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/N2140-92000.pdf

EDUX? Educational series?
Specs like to be 2-ch only, 2GSa/s, 70 and 100 MHz. G models come with WaveGen option.
If you'll google a little more, you'll find some preliminary prices too.
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Re: NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017
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