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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2300 on: January 17, 2019, 06:58:50 am »
 And new option: RTB-K36 - Frequency Response Analysis (Bode Plot). About $540. No free candy.
 
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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2301 on: January 17, 2019, 07:37:31 am »
Where did you find the price for that option?

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2303 on: January 17, 2019, 07:44:48 am »
All of a sudden it became the almost unlocked version for 2k usd.  :-//  ;)
 

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2304 on: January 17, 2019, 11:52:36 am »
Hi Folks - the K36 option is pretty nice.  While it is a for charge option, it is actually a free upgrade for anyone who has purchased a PK1 (bundle package).  It is also part of PK1 moving forward.  Please PM me and I'll get you the instructions. 

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2305 on: January 17, 2019, 11:54:17 am »
Does anybody know if it's possible to scroll horisontally in the protocol decoding bus table?

This screenshot shows it quite clearly. I'm watching multiple datapackets on an RS485 bus. I'm looking at these 55-64 byte messages, but i'm not able to see the entire packet in the bus table, because it's too long + no horisontal scrolling AFAIK.

Is it possible to view the entire packet content in the bus table, or du I have to zoom into the waveform itself and look at the decoded data below?
Hi hansibull - horizontal scrolling is not available today.  I've passed your feedback on to our R&D team for future enhancements.

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2306 on: January 17, 2019, 12:19:53 pm »
Hi Rich,

How about people that bought the RTB2K-COM4 package? Can we receive K36 as a free upgrade as well?

Thanks!
 
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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2307 on: January 17, 2019, 10:26:39 pm »
Hi Rich,

How about people that bought the RTB2K-COM4 package? Can we receive K36 as a free upgrade as well?

Thanks!
Hello COM2 , COM4 and PK1 owners are eligible for free K36 till July the 31st 2019 - however it seems it doesn't come just with FW upgrade but you have to contact your R&S sales reference instead. Maybe it will change but so far this is what we know.
Cheers.
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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2308 on: January 17, 2019, 10:39:55 pm »
Hi Folks - the K36 option is pretty nice.  While it is a for charge option, it is actually a free upgrade for anyone who has purchased a PK1 (bundle package).  It is also part of PK1 moving forward.  Please PM me and I'll get you the instructions. 

-Rich

I bought PK1 some weeks ago... So - your instructions are welcome.

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2309 on: January 18, 2019, 02:11:51 am »
Hi Everyone,

I think I've replied to everyone that sent me a PM.  The 30 second limit between replies is painful!  :-DD  Please hit me up again if you PM'd me and didn't get a reply.

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2310 on: January 18, 2019, 02:31:00 am »
Hi Rich,

How about people that bought the RTB2K-COM4 package? Can we receive K36 as a free upgrade as well?

Thanks!
FYI - for those of you that have asked this similar question in the PMs, I can confirm that people who own RTx-COM2/COM4 will also receive the K36 as a free upgrade.

-Rich
 
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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2311 on: January 18, 2019, 04:49:43 am »
Thank you for clarifying! PM sent.
 

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2312 on: January 18, 2019, 05:30:21 am »
Hi Folks - I've replied to a slew of PMs.  Please let me know if you didn't get a note back.  And please be patient as I imagine our customer support team is getting a little overwhelmed  ;D

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2313 on: January 18, 2019, 06:40:21 am »
The newest manual for the RTB2004 was posted on January 14
https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/manual/rtb2000/
There are also Release notes posted on January 10
https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/us/firmware/rtb2000/

Now waiting for the new feature set........K36....... :)

Thank you Rich

 

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2314 on: January 18, 2019, 02:33:49 pm »
Rich,
is there a story behind the release of K36 in this firmware version? It doesn't appear in the original release notes for 02.202 (only in the ones reposted this week), it was not in any marketing collateral until this week and it doesn't appear in the list of "inactive" options on the scope.

It looks like it was in the firmware, but the decision to market it happened after the firmware release.
 

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2315 on: January 19, 2019, 01:28:38 am »
Rich,
is there a story behind the release of K36 in this firmware version? It doesn't appear in the original release notes for 02.202 (only in the ones reposted this week), it was not in any marketing collateral until this week and it doesn't appear in the list of "inactive" options on the scope.

It looks like it was in the firmware, but the decision to market it happened after the firmware release.
Hi Laurent - I believe it wasn't ready in all the firmwares (including 3000/4000) so the decision was made to hold off until it was ready across the entire family. 

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2316 on: January 19, 2019, 01:30:46 am »
Hi Folks - all PMs replied to again.  There are a few people who seem to have settings that don't allow PMs in (I'm getting a message that says "User 'xyzxyzxyz' has blocked your personal message").  If you didn't get a reply from me, please check your settings and then resend the request.

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2317 on: January 19, 2019, 08:28:29 am »
Rich confirmed it and it's in the new datasheet (version 9 january 2019) : RTB-K36 included in the bundle RTB-PK1
https://scdn.rohde-schwarz.com/ur/pws/dl_downloads/dl_common_library/dl_brochures_and_datasheets/pdf_1/RTB2000_dat-sw_en_3607-4270-22_v0900.pdf (page 18)

Still, the new datasheet, like the previous one, doesn't show RTB-B6 in RTB-PK1.

There's also an R&S application note on bode plot :
https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/fr/applications/fiche-d-application_56279-603776.html?change_c=true
 
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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2318 on: January 19, 2019, 08:49:15 am »
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it was not in any marketing collateral until this week and it doesn't appear in the list of "inactive" options on the scope.
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"Inactive option" only shows deactivated and expired license, I've received my RTB2004 + RTB-PK1 PROMO   :-+ and all options are blank, I have to go to the registering website before any of my PK1 options shows up.

AFAIK there's no way to get the exhaustive list of possible options on the scope.
 

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2319 on: January 19, 2019, 08:54:57 am »
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it was not in any marketing collateral until this week and it doesn't appear in the list of "inactive" options on the scope.
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"Inactive option" only shows deactivated and expired license, I've received my RTB2004 + RTB-PK1 PROMO   :-+ and all options are blank, I have to go to the registering website before any of my PK1 options shows up.

AFAIK there's no way to get the exhaustive list of possible options on the scope.

Thanks, I was wondering about that. Since I have a COM4 scope, I never had a non-activated option and was wondering if they were listed somewhere. I am not sure if this is common practice. Other TE I have/had all show all available options, whether activated or not.
 

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2320 on: January 19, 2019, 10:13:42 am »
Hi Folks - all PMs replied again. 

-Rich
 

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2321 on: January 19, 2019, 11:50:06 am »
Oh wow, what a pleasant surprise.

I bode-plotted on my RTB2004 a lot, but it required an elaborate setup with an external function generator (since I couldn't make the scope trigger on its internal one). On top of that, it only became really viable with the latest firmware's overhauled FFT, since that finally allowed me to view/adjust the actual window of the captured data to analyze in the FFT.

Still, it was time-consuming and error-prone, so I can't wait to try out that app instead. Sent you a PM.
 

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2322 on: January 19, 2019, 11:58:00 pm »
The enhanced FFT features of the RTB2004 & the new option for Bode plots really needs a user review...
 

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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2323 on: January 20, 2019, 02:15:17 am »
The FFT is much the same but it's drastically easier to set up. The bode plot...  :-//

Has anybody got a code yet?
 
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Re: new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004
« Reply #2324 on: January 20, 2019, 02:19:43 am »
Has anybody got a code yet?

I sent in my request early on the 17th, they are having issues with the early bundled packages and no separate PK1 Application Bundle order number.  After 5 emails back and forth they've gone silent.


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