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Offline RobNorthen

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New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« on: August 23, 2020, 06:12:35 pm »
I need a new multimeter. I have been looking at Keysight 34450A and 34460A. They are both MORE than cable enough for my needs. I do value quality over price/quality - to some extend :) 

My needs:
- They both have all the measurements req needed for me (I do simple digital projects / repairs)
- Simple Hpppy use
- Fast boot time
- Clear dsiplay
- Long life time

I'am thinking 34450A, because I value fast boot time, a bright & clear display. The 34460A seems to be Windows CE based, and have a loong boot time, and a LCD VS the 34450A OLED display. Aslo the grumpy old man inside me says " why a Windows CE based multimeter").
But I also have a feeling, the 34460A might be a better quality. Really in doubt here. Seen David's video on the 34460A and a boot time (back then) of 52 secs.. ? yuck!

Anyone have some good input ?
Best regards
Christian
 

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Re: New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2020, 09:37:24 pm »
I need a new multimeter. I have been looking at Keysight 34450A and 34460A. They are both MORE than cable enough for my needs. I do value quality over price/quality - to some extend :) 
Why not other brands?
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My needs:
- They both have all the measurements req needed for me (I do simple digital projects / repairs)
- Simple Hpppy use
- Fast boot time
- Clear dsiplay
- Long life time

I'am thinking 34450A, because I value fast boot time, a bright & clear display.
Does this really matter for a bench meter?
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The 34460A seems to be Windows CE based, and have a loong boot time, and a LCD VS the 34450A OLED display. Aslo the grumpy old man inside me says " why a Windows CE based multimeter").
I'm not sure why anybody would use Windows CE for a multimeter so I'm with you there.    However how do you determine what any specific meter users for its operating system?
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But I also have a feeling, the 34460A might be a better quality. Really in doubt here. Seen David's video on the 34460A and a boot time (back then) of 52 secs.. ? yuck!

Anyone have some good input ?
Best regards
Christian

I have a feeling you are buying a meter that is largely overkill for your needs.  I'd just seriously look at everything on the market to get a good grip on whee the value is.   That includes Keithly, B & K and the foreign manufactures.   We have used an older series of HP meters at work for some time and they are fantastic meters however if I had to buy a new meter today I'd look closely at the Keithly/Tektronix offerings for the same usage today.   Even so such a meter seems to be overkill for general bench use.
 

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Re: New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2020, 09:57:55 pm »
The OLED display on the 34450A is amazing, however I'd still go for the 34460A. It is a magnitude better DMM, the boot time is around 30 seconds with the current firmware.
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Re: New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2020, 10:18:08 pm »
If you want a nice display the hmc8012 might work and has fast boot.
 

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Re: New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2020, 11:34:12 pm »
Or Keithley 2000/2015/2010, or HPAK 34401A, all without Windoze and startup in less than 10s.
 

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Re: New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2020, 06:10:36 am »
The OLED display on the 34450A is amazing, however I'd still go for the 34460A. It is a magnitude better DMM, the boot time is around 30 seconds with the current firmware.

Yes, display is brigth and big. Overall i like it. "however I'd still go for the 34460A" i second that :-+
 

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Re: New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2020, 07:05:12 pm »
You should consider spending at least +150,12 € in order to buy a Keysight 34461A, as you get 8 reasons, which are worth paying for the extra sum:




Keysight 34460A >  979,66 € https://www.welectron.com/Keysight-34460A-Benchtop-Multimeter

Keysight 34461A > 1129,78 € https://www.welectron.com/Keysight-34461A-Benchtop-Multimeter
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Re: New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2020, 08:16:06 pm »
IMHO It is silly considering WinCE in a embedded device a cons or a pro. It is completely transparent to the user and it is just for the GUI. It is widely used with no issue in automotive industry, industrial automation industry. It is more the adequate for a DMM

I'd consider the 34461A over the 34460A.
I don't like the 34450A display. It seems outdated with no graph and trends.
 

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Re: New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2020, 09:13:02 pm »
In addition to the 8 reasons from above...

As the Keysight 34460A does not contain the "Keysight 34138A Multimeter Test Lead Kit" (worth 30 € https://www.welectron.com/Keysight-34138A-Multimeter-Test-Lead-Kit ) and not an usb cable (worth 3-5 €), the +150,12 € extra cost for the Keysight 34461A is definitely the better deal!

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Re: New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2020, 10:02:06 pm »
Not sure why wouldn't buy dmm6500 for that price range ?  :-//
 

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Re: New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2020, 10:08:00 pm »
I use the trend chart all the time with mine. It's very useful and I wouldnt buy a bench meter without one.
 

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Re: New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2020, 12:05:46 am »
You should consider spending at least +150,12 € in order to buy a Keysight 34461A, as you get 8 reasons, which are worth paying for the extra sum:




Keysight 34460A >  979,66 € https://www.welectron.com/Keysight-34460A-Benchtop-Multimeter

Keysight 34461A > 1129,78 € https://www.welectron.com/Keysight-34461A-Benchtop-Multimeter

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Re: New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2020, 01:01:11 am »
Consider the Keithley DMM6500. It's what I went with. IMO better price/performance.
 
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Re: New Multimeter. Keysight 34450A or 34460A
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2020, 09:47:02 am »
Any Windows Ce based stuff need to pay some license fee to M$oft .... 
 


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