NEW Next Gen 2 Series Tektronix Oscilloscope

[EEVblog]

New Tek scope?
https://tektronix.brandlive.com/Next-Gen-Tek/en

[xrunner]

It looks very thin ...

[Fungus]

It looks very thin ...

No thinner than a Micsig. 

[james_s]

That doesn't really tell me anything useful. Wake me up when there are some published specs. Not that I could justify spending the money on a brand new Tek anyway.

[Fungus]

You know it's gonna be overpriced and the probes will cost even more than the 'scope.

But hey, it's a tek.

[james_s]

"Overpriced" is subjective. I've never paid more than about 600 bucks for a scope, but $20k is peanuts for a lot of companies that would be buying this stuff. Compared to the salary of even one engineer it's practically nothing. It's typical for probes to cost more than the scope even for cheap stuff, at least if you need anything remotely exotic.

[EEVblog]

"Overpriced" is subjective. I've never paid more than about 600 bucks for a scope, but $20k is peanuts for a lot of companies that would be buying this stuff. Compared to the salary of even one engineer it's practically nothing. It's typical for probes to cost more than the scope even for cheap stuff, at least if you need anything remotely exotic.

They already have new 3, 4, 5, and 6 series scopes in the 5 digit range.

[bd139]

Added some processing to the image to pull contrast up....

[Fungus]

Most 'scopes are just a single PCB these days so making them thin is a logical step.

The power supply is probably external.

"Overpriced" is subjective.

Yeah, I know. I'm not their target demographic. 

[tggzzz]

Added some processing to the image to pull contrast up....

Given the weight and (in)flexible nature of many probes, how do Tek recommend that is attached to the bench?

[bd139]

Added some processing to the image to pull contrast up....

Given the weight and (in)flexible nature of many probes, how do Tek recommend that is attached to the bench?

Considering the TDS210 has a propensity to attempt to bugger off when you're using it, I would suggest that wedging a copy of TAoE X chapters under the front of the BNCs is a valid tested solution.

[Fungus]

Is the blue part a carrying handle?

[xrunner]

Thanks. Are those the BNC connectors across the bottom - five, or just more knobs? I had a thought (I know it's scary) that this is just the display and the main unit that you connect your signals to is a separate unit. This is just the user interface with the beautiful LCD screen that sits wherever you desire - light and easy to move around. Perhaps it's a wireless link to the main box that does all the heavy lifting.

I am probably wrong though.

Added some processing to the image to pull contrast up....

[EEVblog]

A little bit of processing.

[mc172]

Given the weight and (in)flexible nature of many probes, how do Tek recommend that is attached to the bench?

More to the point, actually using the scope and pressing the buttons...

[tggzzz]

Given the weight and (in)flexible nature of many probes, how do Tek recommend that is attached to the bench?

More to the point, actually using the scope and pressing the buttons...

Doesn't "next gen" imply gesture or voice control using ML?

[salviador]

looks like a Micsig , probably with prohibitive costs

[EEVblog]

Given the weight and (in)flexible nature of many probes, how do Tek recommend that is attached to the bench?

More to the point, actually using the scope and pressing the buttons...

Doesn't "next gen" imply gesture or voice control using ML?

They called all their other new 3-6 series Next Gen too.

[rsjsouza]

I wonder if it will have a faster processor than their series 3 and 4. In my evaluations in 2019 (and later re-confirmed by their FAE earlier this year), the GUI of these two series still take quite a penalty with anything else put on screen, such as FFT, decoding, etc.

[james_s]

Most 'scopes are just a single PCB these days so making them thin is a logical step.

The power supply is probably external.

It would be idiotic to make it so thin that it requires an external power supply. This isn't a TV set that needs to appeal to aesthetically minded housewives, it's a tool for professional engineers.

[Domitronic]

I wonder if it will have a faster processor than their series 3 and 4. In my evaluations in 2019 (and later re-confirmed by their FAE earlier this year), the GUI of these two series still take quite a penalty with anything else put on screen, such as FFT, decoding, etc.

Thats still true. Even moving cursors with the knob is annoyingly slow at 4 Series. Really nice concept and functionality of the scope but somehow ruined by the lagging GUI and poor responsiveness.

[Fungus]

It would be idiotic to make it so thin that it requires an external power supply. This isn't a TV set that needs to appeal to aesthetically minded housewives, it's a tool for professional engineers.

So why make it thin? It's obviously going to be less stable that way.

We'll see when it's released. 

[james_s]

Doesn't "next gen" imply gesture or voice control using ML?

Can you imagine how annoying voice control would be in a lab with a bunch of other techs or a quite cubicle farm? Especially if you had several other scopes nearby.

[bd139]

Doesn't "next gen" imply gesture or voice control using ML?

Can you imagine how annoying voice control would be in a lab with a bunch of other techs or a quite cubicle farm? Especially if you had several other scopes nearby.

I think it would be mostly offended at the language based on the labs I've worked in if it had that feature.

As for the implications of "next gen", if we restrict the thinking to entry to mid-range Tek lines this roughly means the same miserable memory depth, a shiny new set of plastics, possibly a different MCU, a 20% price increase, a matching logo rebrand and hoards of people huffing and heading to Keysight, Rigol or Siglent depending on the ratio of arm length to pocket length they have.

[tggzzz]

Doesn't "next gen" imply gesture or voice control using ML?

Can you imagine how annoying voice control would be in a lab with a bunch of other techs or a quite cubicle farm? Especially if you had several other scopes nearby.

It might be the equivalent of something I've always fantasised about doing. Come up behind somebody and say "format sea colon return yes return".