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Support Bluetooth & WIFI, alongside a connector for a hooked-on battery-pack, same as Rigol DG5000PRO signal gen.

10.1" screen [1280x800] Seems quite limited for a new modern scope with 8 analog channels when we are up in this 5-digit price bracket.
A 10-inch 800p screen is not a lot of screen real estate for all those analog channels on a UI that is heavily window-optimized.

DHO5000 price level in China: DHO5058/500MHz around 11.000 $  [79.800CNY) DHO5108/1GHz 14.000$ (99.800CNY)
MHO5000 [4 & 6ch from 500MHz to 1GHz]: MHO5054 = 29.800CNY, MHO5104 = 39.800CNY,  MHO5056 = 69.800CNY, MHO5106 = 89.800 [between 4200$ and 12.700$)

Details
https://www.rigol.com/products/detail/DHO5000

Datasheet English.
https://static.eleshop.nl/mage/media/downloads/MHODHO5000_DataSheet_EN.pdf

Batterfly gives a good overview of what differs among the MHO/DHO5000 models in this blog post.
https://www.batterfly.com/shop/en/blog-posts/rigol-mho-dho5000


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Re: New Rigol DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2024, 01:05:07 am »
Also a new revision of their DS70000 flagship StationMax, under the new label DS80000. [13GHz, 40GSa, 4Gpts]





Product Details (CN)
https://www.rigol.com/products/detail/DS80000 (ENG-BOT vers. below)

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Re: New Rigol DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2024, 12:27:56 pm »
Looks like a copy of DHO4000 with twice the number of ADCs for four times the price.  Now if they took DHO1000 and doubled the number of channels for double the price (around $2k), it would be an interesting product.
 

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Re: New Rigol DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2024, 10:06:26 pm »
I understand that the front is sort of crowded with 8 channels, but where is the probe compensation output? Do I have to have a 2nd scope to check my probes when using a DHO5000?
 

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Re: New Rigol DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2024, 10:49:59 pm »
I understand that the front is sort of crowded with 8 channels, but where is the probe compensation output? Do I have to have a 2nd scope to check my probes when using a DHO5000?

Right side. In the Horizontal controls section.

Looks recessed to stay mostly out of the way.
 

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Tonight at midnight all new models will be live on our website.
Just few info to clarify some differences between models:
- DHO5000, 4 and 8 channels, has 4 GSa/sec sampling rate for each channel
- MHO5000, 4 and 6 channels, has 4 GSa/sec (single-channel & half-channel), 2 GSa/s all channels active
- AWG and Bode Plot are only available on MHO5000 4 channels as option (requires SW activation)
- MSO functionality is active on all MHO5000 (no need of SW option) but requires the digital probe model PLA3204

Any question, please ask.
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Better bring a few new devices out again!
... improve all the errors and software!
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Hello,

it's now 23:40 and I'm already waiting.

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I'm tempted to borrow one again, but I'm afraid it will just be a DHO4000 with more channels.
 
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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2024, 11:10:33 pm »
15k€ without VAT.... :-DD
 
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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2024, 11:17:52 pm »
Hello,

the fifth and sixth channel is particularly expensive :( 3100 € per channel. The seventh and eighth channel only cost €1000 per channel.

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PS: Maybe you can ask Rigol if you can buy a device without fifth and sixth channel but with seventh and eighth channel for 7700 €?

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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2024, 11:39:33 pm »
Egonotto, I like your humor very much... ;D
 
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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2024, 12:15:47 am »
Hello,

I have just had a look at the Micsig eight-channel devices and the prices of the Micsig MHO6 have risen dramatically:

from:

350MHz = 5999€ now 7999 €
500MHz = 7999€ now 13999 €
1GHz = 9999€ now 17999 €
+ VAT

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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2024, 05:47:43 am »
Here are official pricing at launch date, images of the 4 channels are not available yet, we will load them asap.
We believe the 3 units which will sell are MHO5056, MHO5054 and DHO5058. Mostly for power electronics application and combined with current probes and optical isolated differential probes, so yes, it will be an expensive package.
Our stock should be available by 3rd week of November.

MH05054 EURO 4.399 + VAT
MHO5104 EURO 5.799 + VAT

MHO5056 EURO 10.099 + VAT
MHO5106 EURO 12.999 + VAT

DHO5054 EURO 5.799 + VAT
DHO5104 EURO 7.199 + VAT

DHO5058 EURO 11.599 + VAT
DHO5108 EURO 14.499 + VAT
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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2024, 08:32:25 am »
So the 4ch MSO versions are cheaper than the "normal" ones.... ???
 
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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2024, 09:07:17 am »
So the 4ch MSO versions are cheaper than the "normal" ones.... ???
Yes, the reason is because DHO has a higher sampling rate when all channels are active:
- DHO5000, 4 and 8 channels, has 4 GSa/sec sampling rate for each channel
- MHO5000, 4 and 6 channels, has 4 GSa/sec (single-channel & half-channel), 2 GSa/s all channels active
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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2024, 09:21:43 am »
I have found not a great quality (but better than nothing) image of the MHO5000 4 channels model.
We can see the AWG output next to MSO.
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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2024, 09:57:01 am »
I have found not a great quality (but better than nothing) image of the MHO5000 4 channels model.
We can see the AWG output next to MSO.

I hope Rigol will spin off an MHO1000 as well. It's a strange gap in their lineup that the DHO1000 and 4000 series are only available as plain DSOs.
 
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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2024, 01:27:42 pm »
Batronix has now also listed them and they also have no pictures of the 4-channel scopes.
Then I took a look at the somewhat confusing data sheet.
Nothing new under the Rigol sun, the FFT is as meager as ever and will probably never be touched again.
And why the Bode plot only goes up to 25 MHz, but the internal generator goes up to 50 MHz, remains Rigol's secret.
 
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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2024, 02:06:37 pm »
Batronix has now also listed them and they also have no pictures of the 4-channel scopes.
Then I took a look at the somewhat confusing data sheet.
Nothing new under the Rigol sun, the FFT is as meager as ever and will probably never be touched again.
And why the Bode plot only goes up to 25 MHz, but the internal generator goes up to 50 MHz, remains Rigol's secret.
4 channel models images are not available. We are waiting for Rigol to upload them into the marketing folder.

We think most use of the series is for power electronics applications. 6 channels is something the market asks for quite long time and only Tek is available at much higher cost.

We will see.
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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2024, 04:30:25 pm »
I'm tempted to borrow one again, but I'm afraid it will just be a DHO4000 with more channels.
These new models might push Shenzhen to release SDS6058 H12 Pro to the west.......
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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2024, 04:52:09 pm »
I'm tempted to borrow one again, but I'm afraid it will just be a DHO4000 with more channels.
These new models might push Shenzhen to release SDS6058 H12 Pro to the west.......
Eheh :) we will meet them in two weeks … let’s see what will happen 🍿
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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2024, 07:10:00 pm »
OK, got the 4 channel models images and loaded into the website.
 :popcorn:
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Re: New Rigol MHO/DHO5000 8-ch. Oscilloscope 10.1" 12-bit 4GSa [500MHz & 1GHz]
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2024, 07:14:17 pm »
Batronix has now also listed them and they also have no pictures of the 4-channel scopes.
Then I took a look at the somewhat confusing data sheet.
Nothing new under the Rigol sun, the FFT is as meager as ever and will probably never be touched again.
And why the Bode plot only goes up to 25 MHz, but the internal generator goes up to 50 MHz, remains Rigol's secret.

I'm not surprised that the Bode plot goes only to half the AWG max frequency.
However, the Bode plot on the DHO914S does not work properly:  is there a difference on these new products?
 


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