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Offline lpc32

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1225 on: March 23, 2015, 05:44:38 pm »
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1226 on: March 24, 2015, 06:14:20 am »
I have tried the 'UNISTall' option, so far without success. Am I missing something, the instructions seem simple enough, in 'Ultra Sigma' type in the command ':SYST:OPT:UNINST', activate the command and job done!!

Help, any ideas?

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1227 on: March 24, 2015, 09:07:59 am »
:SYSTem:OPTion:UNINSTall

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1228 on: March 25, 2015, 06:43:50 am »
Thank you, Datman. That works fine.

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1229 on: March 26, 2015, 07:04:40 am »
The little yellow plastic tings that come on the end of the probes, what purpose do they serve?

Also are they supposed to stay on the end of the probe?

Mine keep falling off :-//

(1st scope, so this is all a bit new, apologies if it's a silly question)
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1230 on: March 26, 2015, 07:28:35 am »
The little yellow plastic tings that come on the end of the probes, what purpose do they serve?

Also are they supposed to stay on the end of the probe?

Mine keep falling off :-//

(1st scope, so this is all a bit new, apologies if it's a silly question)
See this thread:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/retractable-hook-tip-on-rigol-ds1054z-scope-doesn't-stay-on-its-probe-!/
Read it all.  ;)
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1231 on: March 26, 2015, 11:07:41 am »
The little yellow plastic tings that come on the end of the probes, what purpose do they serve?

Also are they supposed to stay on the end of the probe?

Mine keep falling off :-//

(1st scope, so this is all a bit new, apologies if it's a silly question)
See this thread:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/retractable-hook-tip-on-rigol-ds1054z-scope-doesn't-stay-on-its-probe-!/
Read it all.  ;)

Read through it and watched the video too, all good stuff.
There was a suggestion that the yellow part was to help with the measuring of pins on IC's.
But i never found an answer as to why it won't stay attached.

The hooks attach nicely, no problem there, but the yellow pieces will not stay on regardless of how hard i push them on.

Still looking for an answer.
If i missed it would you point me directly to what i'm looking for?
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1232 on: March 26, 2015, 11:17:59 am »
The little yellow plastic tings that come on the end of the probes, what purpose do they serve?

Also are they supposed to stay on the end of the probe?

Mine keep falling off :-//

(1st scope, so this is all a bit new, apologies if it's a silly question)
See this thread:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/retractable-hook-tip-on-rigol-ds1054z-scope-doesn't-stay-on-its-probe-!/
Read it all.  ;)

Read through it and watched the video too, all good stuff.
There was a suggestion that the yellow part was to help with the measuring of pins on IC's.
But i never found an answer as to why it won't stay attached.

The hooks attach nicely, no problem there, but the yellow pieces will not stay on regardless of how hard i push them on.

Still looking for an answer.
If i missed it would you point me directly to what i'm looking for?
That seems piss poor manufacturing, never come across that before.  :palm:
Maybe Bluetack would stick them on, but it could be a bit messy....
Might they be made of Thermo-plastic that might shrink when heated?

If I'd supplied them I'd be moaning to my suppliers for replacements.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1233 on: March 26, 2015, 11:29:23 am »
The ... yellow pieces will not stay on regardless of how hard i push them on.
FWIW, they're hit & miss IME (I've 2 that will stay on, and the other 2 that won't without help).

Perhaps try a bit of tape on the inside of the yellow pieces, and see if that helps.  :)
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1234 on: March 26, 2015, 11:37:40 am »
The ... yellow pieces will not stay on regardless of how hard i push them on.
FWIW, they're hit & miss IME (I've 2 that will stay on, and the other 2 that won't without help).

Perhaps try a bit of tape on the inside of the yellow pieces, and see if that helps.  :)
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You would be real happy if they fell off when probing a densly populated high powered circuit and allowed the GND ring to contact a component lead. BANG shit pants,  :-BROKE DUT,  :-BROKE scope and probe.  :wtf:  :palm:
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1235 on: March 26, 2015, 12:01:59 pm »
The ... yellow pieces will not stay on regardless of how hard i push them on.
FWIW, they're hit & miss IME (I've 2 that will stay on, and the other 2 that won't without help).

Perhaps try a bit of tape on the inside of the yellow pieces, and see if that helps.  :)
:palm:
You would be real happy if they fell off when probing a densly populated high powered circuit and allowed the GND ring to contact a component lead. BANG shit pants,  :-BROKE DUT,  :-BROKE scope and probe.  :wtf:  :palm:
Not an instance where you'd want to be using the cheapest possible probes though (especially when you know the covers slip off super easy). ;)

For what you describe, I'd be after better probes (not only to be sure the covers stay, but more accurate signal). Probably a jig/probe holder as well (I've been known to be accident prone).
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1236 on: March 27, 2015, 07:27:31 am »
By the way, the Rigol probe tips are needle sharp!
To avoid injuries (and perhaps also to avoid getting them accidentally in contact with circuits) would you recommend to have the hook tip attached, or how do you keep your probes?
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1237 on: March 31, 2015, 11:04:02 am »
I received my unit today. After testing it I unlocked the options. There was over 30h trial time which is now "Official".
The SW version is 00.04.02.SP4 and board version is 0.1.1.
I used the code generator at http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/ with the option DSER (500uV vertical NOT enabled).

This thread is huge and finding the right info is quite difficult. There is even wrong info on some post. It would be nice if huge threads like these would have the current info edited on the first post.

The probes are quite low quality. None of them kept the yellow cap in place. The 1x position is loose and sometimes causes noise.
Luckily I have Agilent 500MHz probes coming.


 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1238 on: April 01, 2015, 12:07:24 am »
That's great plazma!!! :-+ Mines suppose to ship tomorrow from Tequipment, crossing my fingers ;D Thanks for sharing the results on the unlock, looking foreword to doing the same!!
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1239 on: April 01, 2015, 01:04:00 pm »
Do not use DSFR or DSBA - 500uV Vertical as this does not work and causes problems with the scope.

Just to clarify - enabling itself causes problems? Or only using 500uV doesn't work.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1240 on: April 01, 2015, 02:53:49 pm »
That's great plazma!!! :-+ Mines suppose to ship tomorrow from Tequipment, crossing my fingers ;D Thanks for sharing the results on the unlock, looking foreword to doing the same!!

Mine also. Here's to hoping it's not an April Fool's joke.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1241 on: April 01, 2015, 02:58:55 pm »
Do not use DSFR or DSBA - 500uV Vertical as this does not work and causes problems with the scope.

Just to clarify - enabling itself causes problems? Or only using 500uV doesn't work.

As far as I know, as I have not tried it myself, it does not work AND causes other problems too. I could be wrong.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1242 on: April 01, 2015, 05:17:14 pm »
That's great plazma!!! :-+ Mines suppose to ship tomorrow from Tequipment, crossing my fingers ;D Thanks for sharing the results on the unlock, looking foreword to doing the same!!

Mine also. Here's to hoping it's not an April Fool's joke.
Found the following on TEquipment's DS1054Z page...

  • We are currently receiving a large shipment of the DS1054Z on 3/31 and have started to ship our back orders.  ALL back orders will be shipped by 4/10 and we will have over 200 units in stock for future orders.
  • Orders placed after 3/31 will ship 4/8 to 4/10.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1243 on: April 02, 2015, 03:15:16 am »
mine shipped today as well  :-+
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1244 on: April 02, 2015, 03:24:39 am »
Do not use DSFR or DSBA - 500uV Vertical as this does not work and causes problems with the scope.

Just to clarify - enabling itself causes problems? Or only using 500uV doesn't work.

As far as I know, as I have not tried it myself, it does not work AND causes other problems too. I could be wrong.

The scope will appear to work the 500uV range will show a signal but it will be incorrect. The danger of course is that there is no indication of a fault, the scope will appear to work. That can cause massive problems both in design and repair. 
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1245 on: April 02, 2015, 04:41:51 am »

The probes are quite low quality. None of them kept the yellow cap in place. The 1x position is loose and sometimes causes noise.
Luckily I have Agilent 500MHz probes coming.


You really can't expect Agilent quality in a $400 4-ch oscilloscope.
And 500MHz Agilent probes are close to $100ea used on ebay anyway.

Dave did a video on the RP2200 probes and found them adequate


If you remember please do a comparison between the RP2200 and the Agilent probes.

I am curious as to how much noise is normal. There is a thread here that looks into this issue.

 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1246 on: April 02, 2015, 05:17:21 am »

The probes are quite low quality. None of them kept the yellow cap in place. The 1x position is loose and sometimes causes noise.
Luckily I have Agilent 500MHz probes coming.


You really can't expect Agilent quality in a $400 4-ch oscilloscope.
And 500MHz Agilent probes are close to $100ea used on ebay anyway.

Dave did a video on the RP2200 probes and found them adequate


If you remember please do a comparison between the RP2200 and the Agilent probes.

I am curious as to how much noise is normal. There is a thread here that looks into this issue.

It's always critical to understand your own equipment. Dirty connectors, performance limitations of cabling and hardware, test jigs and signal sources all count.

So are you going to return the Rigol probe, clean the switch (cycle it 100 times), throw it in the bin or name Mr Scratchy and put it in a drawer?

The good thing is that you have identified an issue. It's important to trust equipment but not so far that you don't test it. Whenever you have a statement like, "That doesn't seem right" check your gear or at least think maybe you should. 
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1247 on: April 02, 2015, 09:44:46 am »
Is there a simple way to disable already enabled 500uV mode? Or the only way is to uninstall all and then put new code again?
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1248 on: April 02, 2015, 09:48:58 am »
Is there a simple way to disable already enabled 500uV mode? Or the only way is to uninstall all and then put new code again?
Uninstall & reinstall a new code that skips the 500uV option is the only way I know it works.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1249 on: April 02, 2015, 12:54:32 pm »
Hi
I had no clear, install with DSER in DS1074Z, without enabling 500uV Vertical , then I can install the DSBA option to enable or must be disabled?

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