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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1250 on: April 02, 2015, 01:00:58 pm »
Hi
I had no clear, install with DSER in DS1074Z, without enabling 500uV Vertical , then I can install the DSBA option to enable or must be disabled?
No, do not enable it, it doesn't work.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1251 on: April 02, 2015, 01:04:57 pm »
Hi
I had no clear, install with DSER in DS1074Z, without enabling 500uV Vertical , then I can install the DSBA option to enable or must be disabled?
No, do not enable it, it doesn't work.

Thanks !!
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1252 on: April 03, 2015, 01:22:35 pm »
Hello,

I received my DS1054Z some weeks ago. I has to wait more than two months. Great device, I really like it.

What are your experince with "Multi-level intensity grading display"? Should it show less frequent signal paths with lower intensity like an analogue scope? I tested with pseudo-random signal but I think only two intensity levels are shown: normal and a darker. Not a big deal but I expected more.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1253 on: April 03, 2015, 01:33:19 pm »
What are your experince with "Multi-level intensity grading display"? Should it show less frequent signal paths with lower intensity like an analogue scope? I tested with pseudo-random signal but I think only two intensity levels are shown: normal and a darker. Not a big deal but I expected more.
64 intensity levels are present which is more than enough in most cases. With very simple signals all you get is few grades if you think about it.

For stable signals, intensity graded display has a little benefit. However, for unknown or unstable signals it is much better. And it really shines in situations where analog signal is modulated.

In short, I would have to be pressed hard to go back to non-intensity graded display.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1254 on: April 03, 2015, 01:37:22 pm »
Hello,

I received my DS1054Z some weeks ago. I has to wait more than two months. Great device, I really like it.

What are your experince with "Multi-level intensity grading display"? Should it show less frequent signal paths with lower intensity like an analogue scope?
Take a look at Dave's summary review (EEVBlog #703) where he demonstrates the feature, describing it as one of the best on the market.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1255 on: April 03, 2015, 01:47:45 pm »
What are your experince with "Multi-level intensity grading display"? Should it show less frequent signal paths with lower intensity like an analogue scope? I tested with pseudo-random signal but I think only two intensity levels are shown: normal and a darker. Not a big deal but I expected more.

Yes, intensity grading mimics the intensity control of an analogue scope. See Dave's review on it - https://youtu.be/W2qdtQkBKhc?t=1921 (EEVBlog #704).

[Edit - added the time (32:01) and episode title to the URL.]
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1256 on: April 03, 2015, 07:07:54 pm »
What are your experince with "Multi-level intensity grading display"? Should it show less frequent signal paths with lower intensity like an analogue scope? I tested with pseudo-random signal but I think only two intensity levels are shown: normal and a darker. Not a big deal but I expected more.

Yes, intensity grading mimics the intensity control of an analogue scope. See Dave's review on it - https://youtu.be/W2qdtQkBKhc?t=1921 (EEVBlog #704).

[Edit - added the time (32:01) and episode title to the URL.]

Hmmm. Made some tests. It seems that the behaviour depends on the horizontal time base and the memory depth settings. The higher refresh rate of the signal the more grades of intensity levels.
On low frequency signals (like audio) I can differentiate only two levels. The display persistency time settings has no effect on it except 0.

Thanks for the responses. Now I understand better. This is an amazing DSO for its price.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1257 on: April 04, 2015, 04:15:50 am »
It seems that the behaviour depends on the horizontal time base and the memory depth settings. The higher refresh rate of the signal the more grades of intensity levels.
On low frequency signals (like audio) I can differentiate only two levels. The display persistency time settings has no effect on it except 0.

The waveform update rate drops at long time bases, so I suppose intensity grading will not make sense without persistence. I should try this out with a low frequency signal.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1258 on: April 04, 2015, 09:19:27 pm »
Model DS1054Z. I can confirm that the trick to unlock all features still works for Software version: 00.04.02.sp4

Firstly, i used the  DSFR option, then i re-entered new codes with the DSER on. I do not have spotted any problems so far. I think it works fine, all options are available.

Now, it Works as if i have a DS1104Z.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1259 on: April 09, 2015, 08:40:37 pm »
I sent you a pm with it
       hi, can I get "eevblog discount code" for ds1054z on tequpment.com? Thanks
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1260 on: April 09, 2015, 08:48:10 pm »
Btw. are there any discount codes for European resellers like Batterfly or Batronix?
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1261 on: April 09, 2015, 09:29:28 pm »
hi, can I get "eevblog discount code" for ds1054z on tequpment.com? Thanks

I sent you a PM with the code. :)
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1262 on: April 09, 2015, 10:46:24 pm »
hi, can I get "eevblog discount code" for ds1054z on tequpment.com? Thanks

I sent you a PM with the code. :)
      Thank you! One more question--how can I apply that code on tequipment.com?
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1263 on: April 09, 2015, 11:09:51 pm »
Get through the checkout process, and on the second-to last step, there is a box for a coupon code. If you're having to enter your payment information, you've gone too far.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1264 on: April 10, 2015, 12:32:42 am »
Get through the checkout process, and on the second-to last step, there is a box for a coupon code. If you're having to enter your payment information, you've gone too far.
   Thank you!
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1265 on: April 10, 2015, 03:39:47 am »
hi, can I get "eevblog discount code" for ds1054z on tequpment.com? Thanks

I sent you a PM with the code. :)

This has taken me out of lurker land.  Would it possible for me to get a code too?  About to pull the trigger and pick one of these up!
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1266 on: April 10, 2015, 07:10:26 am »
This is probably a FAQ by now, but I can't readily find an answer: Any suggestions for "must have" accessories to a DS1054Z scope? A better probe?
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1267 on: April 10, 2015, 07:49:39 am »
Any suggestions for "must have" accessories to a DS1054Z scope? A better probe?
The probes are good enough for me. Some of them have issues with the 1x/10x switch in the 1x position, which are measurable with a resistance meter, but don't seem to affect scope measurements under normal circumstances. Of course, if you have special requirements (differential probes, HV, current measurement or whatever), those might imply the need for additional probes.

A couple of good 50 Ohm pass-through terminators are important in my view, since the scope does not have built-in 50 Ohm termination at its inputs.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1268 on: April 10, 2015, 02:11:21 pm »
... After testing it I unlocked the options. ...
I used the code generator at http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/ with...
Who is the owner of this website?

How to be sure that your scopes don't start playing sponsored promo videos as from 2016 ?
If you try and take a cat apart to see how it works, the first thing you have on your hands is a nonworking cat.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1269 on: April 10, 2015, 02:27:21 pm »
 
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How to be sure that your scopes don't start playing sponsored promo videos as from 2016 ?
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Think it is a trusted website, but who knows what happen when we finally get there   :-//
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1270 on: April 10, 2015, 02:30:09 pm »
I just got an email with a link to a pdf with new and old prices:

http://www.batronix.com/pdf/Priceadjustment_Rigol.pdf
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1271 on: April 10, 2015, 02:54:09 pm »
How to be sure that your scopes don't start playing sponsored promo videos as from 2016 ?
I am super confident this won't happen as the DS1xxxz scopes don't even have an RTC. Maybe on the DS2xxx series :-D
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1272 on: April 10, 2015, 02:56:25 pm »
I just got an email with a link to a pdf with new and old prices:

http://www.batronix.com/pdf/Priceadjustment_Rigol.pdf
So the DS1054Z is going up by from 299 to 339 euros. Given that US dollars and euros are almost at parity at the moment it will be interesting to see if this will affect the rather higher $399 list price in the States.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1273 on: April 10, 2015, 03:49:15 pm »
So the DS1054Z is going up by from 299 to 339 euros. Given that US dollars and euros are almost at parity at the moment it will be interesting to see if this will affect the rather higher $399 list price in the States.
Remember that those Euro prices are without VAT.
Considering that the DS1054Z appeals to hobbyists/private buyers, for many the effective price difference will be larger than EUR40 (depending on national VAT rates...)
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1274 on: April 10, 2015, 05:07:00 pm »
This has taken me out of lurker land.  Would it possible for me to get a code too?  About to pull the trigger and pick one of these up!

PM Sent. Enjoy. :)
 


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