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Offline highwayman

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1550 on: July 08, 2015, 11:03:22 am »
Is there a known software code that can restore my scope to its configuration before I applied the 'DSER' upgrade?
Or is UltraSigma the only way to do it?
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1551 on: July 08, 2015, 12:25:45 pm »
Is there a known software code that can restore my scope to its configuration before I applied the 'DSER' upgrade?
Or is UltraSigma the only way to do it?
You don't have to use UltraSigma, you can use any method that will send SCPI commands to the scope. I use telnet over the LAN connection. Several people have developed and posted software that will talk to the scope and send the SCPI commands, using USB or LAN. Check back in the thread.

But for me, just sending commands, telnet over the LAN connection is the easiest way.

You need to send:

:SYSTem:OPTion:UNINSTall

just exactly as written there, caps and lowercase and colons. This will reset the Options and bandwidth back to stock, but if you've used the scope more than 30 hours, the Trial Options will still be timed out.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1552 on: July 08, 2015, 01:30:31 pm »
:SYST:OPT:UNINST is fine as well.

It's all described here (page 157): http://www.batronix.com/pdf/Rigol/ProgrammingGuide/MSO1000Z_DS1000Z_ProgrammingGuide_EN.pdf

 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1553 on: July 08, 2015, 03:37:41 pm »
:SYST:OPT:UNINST is fine as well.

It's all described here (page 157): http://www.batronix.com/pdf/Rigol/ProgrammingGuide/MSO1000Z_DS1000Z_ProgrammingGuide_EN.pdf

I suppose the statement is incorrect.
Correct would have to be :SYST:OPT:UNIN
I have not tried it, but in the firmware, there is only UNINstall and UNIN.

Peter

It's not unlikely, the programming guides of Rigol differ a lot with the actual behaviour of the scopes (unfortunately)...
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1554 on: July 08, 2015, 03:51:16 pm »
lower case characters are optional so partial names will work:

UNIN
UNINS
UNINST
UNINSTA
UNINSTAL
UNINSTALL

should all do the same thing.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1555 on: July 09, 2015, 12:53:39 am »
Perhaps those abbreviations "should" all work the same, but perhaps they don't actually. Have you actually tested them?
Several people have reported that using the abbreviations doesn't work for them.  Of course they may be making typing mistakes...

I've made a text file with the commands that I use most often (the full commands, upper and lower case as given in the manual) and when I want to send a command to the scope I just copy-paste from the text file into the telnet or other program that sends the command to the scope. That way I know I'm not making mistakes, and it always works for me.

I've uninstalled and reinstalled the options at least a dozen times, while testing for various bugs, and haven't had a failure yet, using the full text as I indicated in my post above. YMMV of course. 
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1556 on: July 09, 2015, 01:20:10 am »
lower case characters are optional so partial names will work:

UNIN
UNINS
UNINST
UNINSTA
UNINSTAL
UNINSTALL

should all do the same thing.

I always thought that the SCPI commands had to be completely spelled out or abbreviated to the capitol letters.
So only  :SYSTem:OPTion:UNINSTall  and  :SYST:OPT:UNINST  are acceptable.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1557 on: July 09, 2015, 06:29:39 am »
"All the commands are case-insensitive and you can use any of them. If abbreviation is used, all the capital
letters in the command must be written completely."

Source (page 17): http://www.batronix.com/pdf/Rigol/ProgrammingGuide/MSO1000Z_DS1000Z_ProgrammingGuide_EN.pdf
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1558 on: July 14, 2015, 09:04:26 am »
I have just noticed in the beginners section by IE 4 under oscilloscope heading that Rigol have released a new F/W  for the DS1054 etc.  see below:

Rigol just made an announcement  about improving the FFT  on the  MSO/DSO1000Z series scopes

"With the latest firmware for the MSO/DS1000Z Series (00.04.03 SP2) we have improved our FFT functionality.

From now on your can choose the whether you want to have FFT calculation on display point or if you want to have done the FFT calculation on 16k points"

Does anyone have further information, release note, or know where it can be downloaded from?

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1559 on: July 14, 2015, 09:13:13 am »
You can download the Firmware here: http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/ct/1579/p-0019/Bct/l-3f49/l-3f49:ee3/ct1_0/1?sid=5QnnsxcKo

Release Notes are here: http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/attachment/1579/f-05ba/1/-/-/-/-/DS1000Z%20Firmware%20Release%20Notes.pdf?sid=ErJFAfDAl

I installed this on my MSO1104Z-S last night and everything seems fine. The new FFT function shows up and seems to work. Haven't tested what other tweaks have been done. If you've "liberated" any additional options they will also still be ok. I left the scope on for 30 minutes after rebooting (after the update) and ran a recal which also went fine. Some users have mentioned that the first / second recal failed right after the update, but I didn't have that issue.

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1560 on: July 14, 2015, 12:46:54 pm »
Thanks for the response however the new f/w referred to stated that it was 00.04.03 SP2.  The previous f/w update was 00.04.03 SP1 from last month.  It may of course be a mistake and there is no later f/w update this month!

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1561 on: July 14, 2015, 01:03:43 pm »
Oh, an SP2!! It seems unlikely, but I'd like to know more too if there is one. Especially as a further release that soon would suggest that they messed something up badly in 04.03 SP1.

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1562 on: July 14, 2015, 01:51:43 pm »
It would be really nice if they improved the serial decode such that it worked on more than the screen memory. I can dream...
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1563 on: July 14, 2015, 01:59:07 pm »
Thanks for the response however the new f/w referred to stated that it was 00.04.03 SP2.  The previous f/w update was 00.04.03 SP1 from last month.  It may of course be a mistake and there is no later f/w update this month!

John

After reading the entire internet (twice) in my lunch break, I've decided it must be a typo. For a start the FFT improvement happened in 04.03 SP1 (I tested it last night on my scope). One month between releases just sounds too quick too and I can't find any other mention of 04.03 SP2 on the interwebs.

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1564 on: July 14, 2015, 03:43:29 pm »

After reading the entire internet (twice) in my lunch break, I've decided it must be a typo. For a start the FFT improvement happened in 04.03 SP1 (I tested it last night on my scope). One month between releases just sounds too quick too and I can't find any other mention of 04.03 SP2 on the interwebs.

This document (found by another member here) seems to be Rigol's definitive list of versions:  http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/attachment/1579/f-05ba/1/-/-/-/-/DS1000Z%20Firmware%20Release%20Notes.pdf?sid=ErJFAfDAl

It shows:

00.04.03.01.05   Date 2015-06-16
00.04.03.00.01   Date 2015-05-05
00.04.02.04.07   Date 2014-12-31
00.04.02.03.00   Date 2014-10-21
00.04.01.02.00   Date 2014-07-28

« Last Edit: July 14, 2015, 08:21:14 pm by kwass »
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1565 on: July 14, 2015, 05:53:08 pm »

After reading the entire internet (twice) in my lunch break, I've decided it must be a typo. For a start the FFT improvement happened in 04.03 SP1 (I tested it last night on my scope). One month between releases just sounds too quick too and I can't find any other mention of 04.03 SP2 on the interwebs.

This document (found by another member here) seems to be Rigol's definitive list of versions:  http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/attachment/1579/f-05ba/1/-/-/-/-/DS1000Z%20Firmware%20Release%20Notes.pdf?sid=ErJFAfDAl

It shows:

00.04.03.01.05   Date?2015-06-16
00.04.03.00.01   Date?2015-05-05
00.04.02.04.07   Date?2014-12-31
00.04.02.03.00   Date?2014-10-21
00.04.01.02.00   Date?2014-07-28

Yes, that's right, and the one at the top of the list has a date of 26 May 2015 (inside the zipfile), and when installed to the scope, the System Info screen calls it "00.04.03.SP1" .
This is what you get from the link that McBryce posted up above.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1566 on: July 14, 2015, 07:12:11 pm »
ya, but's not the latest one form 2015-06-16   /  00.04.03.01.05

00.04.03.SP1 seems to be this one 00.04.03.SP1 ( 00.04.03.00.01   Date 2015-05-05 )
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1567 on: July 14, 2015, 07:25:56 pm »
I installed the version from here which is 00.04.03.01.05 dated 2015-05-26.  The System Info page on the scope says 00.04.03.SP1 afterwards.  The SPx has always corresponded to the 4th digit (i.e. 01).  If the 4th digit is zero, the scope doesn't display SP0.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2015, 07:28:25 pm by MarkF »
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1568 on: July 14, 2015, 09:35:05 pm »
The SPx has always corresponded to the 4th digit (i.e. 01).  If the 4th digit is zero, the scope doesn't display SP0.

Ak, ok thank u.  Works fine.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1569 on: July 15, 2015, 10:14:15 am »
ya, but's not the latest one form 2015-06-16   /  00.04.03.01.05

Yes, it is, as you have now evidently found out.

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00.04.03.SP1 seems to be this one 00.04.03.SP1 ( 00.04.03.00.01   Date 2015-05-05 )

No, it's not.

The links in McBryce's post and in MarkF's post wind up at the same zipfile.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1570 on: July 16, 2015, 08:19:43 pm »
Maybe already answered, but is 00.04.03.SP1 hackable?
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1571 on: July 16, 2015, 08:28:30 pm »
Maybe already answered, but is 00.04.03.SP1 hackable?

ya
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1572 on: July 17, 2015, 10:43:31 pm »
They added the digital filter back into the math function.

Super !

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1573 on: July 18, 2015, 08:26:47 pm »
Can someone clear up something for me. Why does the Rigol DS1054Z not allow measurements on its
math waveform ? Its just another waveform in memory.

For example I was trying to verify the filter function 3 db point after filtering a channel with LPF and
cannot make any measurements, cursor, or left hand column standard measurements, like Pk-Pk
on the math waveform, etc..

I tried cursor measurement, it only works on the 4 primary channels. You can do a pk-pk thru a contortion
of setting source channel to same scaling as math channel, then move the cursors around. But what you really
are doing is measuring the source channel screen plot.


Another suggestion for Left hand standard measurements, a db Pk-Pk, Vavg, Vrms measurement referenced to 1 V.

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1574 on: July 18, 2015, 08:38:33 pm »
I have a DS2000 so it might be different:

If you are referring to cursors then in the menu under source it should display math.

If you are referring to the menu on the left after pressing the upper left menu button, if you press the math button it changes to the match channel.

Edit: If you are referring to the measure button, then there is a source that can be changed to math.

But I don't know how different the DS1000 series are on that aspect.

Edit: manual for your scope, look at chapter 6:
http://www.tequipment.net/assets/1/26/MSO1000Z_DS1000Z_UserGuide.pdf

Even on the display all measurements picture in page 138 (6-28) it shows all 4 channels plus the math channel
« Last Edit: July 18, 2015, 08:43:42 pm by miguelvp »
 


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