New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope

[maxastuto]

 :)ok many thanks!  :palm:you can use the Ultra Sigma software in windows? Or you need Linux? You must use wireless LAN or you can also connect USB?
Then the word * IDN?
It should be replaced with: SYSTem OPTion Uninstall
Words have the letters in upper case and the lower case?
There are the spaces between the 3 words?
Excuse me, but are not practical writing with SCPI commands

[rolycat]

:)ok many thanks!  :palm:you can use the Ultra Sigma software in windows? Or you need Linux? You must use wireless LAN or you can also connect USB?
Then the word * IDN?
It should be replaced with: SYSTem OPTion Uninstall
Words have the letters in upper case and the lower case?
There are the spaces between the 3 words?
Excuse me, but are not practical writing with SCPI commands

Have you followed the link provided by Fennec a few posts back to alsetalokin4017's very informative reply #1346? This should answer most of these questions.

[maxastuto]

  many many thanks rolycat! I solved the problem! it's very very simple , but i 'm confusion!
With Ultra sigma and lan connection i envoyed SYSTem:OPTIon:UNINSTall and click send command
in the display oscilloscope appeared " Option unistall success! After i connect link to web for key generator and repeat again the procedure:
insert the serial number product oscilloscope, insert the code option DSER and receive the new  serial number with the last two groups alphanumeric different from the previous one. I insert the key code with  the manual mode with knobs of the front panel oscilloscope and ... BINGO the procedure it's succefully!!! Il the list of options "official" not appeared the function 500mV... it's correct?

[Orion12]

BINGO the procedure it's succefully!!! Il the list of options "official" not appeared the function 500uV... it's correct?

I think the Reason this Question on the 500uV / DS1054Z Functionality has come up Repeatedly is BECAUSE their has Not Been Enough SPECIFIC Data posted on EXACTLY What Problems setting this 500uV Option ON will produce on the DS1054Z . . . ? ? ? ( I know I also Posted about this Question )

It's been mentioned on this thread that the DS1054Z does NOT have 500uV Hardware support . . . Rigol obviously Makes this AVAILABLE in the Options Menu so WHAT Happens IF this Option is Turned-On ?
Does it Lock-Up the Scope or Create OTHER Problems ?
Or does it Simply Not Accurately Display 500uV Signals & Voltages at this 500uV / Division Setting ?

If SOMEONE could Please post some further DETAILS on this Topic . . . This confusion could be dispelled . . . Many Thanks & Cheers from Orion12 

[Shock]

It's not a hardware supported option, it's been discussed many times over.

[MarkF]

My understanding is two fold. 
  1)  A lot of noise in the 500uV/div setting, and
  2)  The 500uV/div setting is NOT calibrated.  You may not even be able to see the trace or adjust it to be on the screen.

I think the Reason this Question on the 500mV / DS1054Z Functionality has come up Repeatedly is BECAUSE their has Not Been Enough SPECIFIC Data posted on EXACTLY What Problems setting this 500mV Option ON will produce on the DS1054Z . . . ? ? ? ( I know I also Posted about this Question )

It's been mentioned on this thread that the DS1054Z does NOT have 500vM Hardware support . . . Rigol obviously Makes this AVAILABLE in the Options Menu so WHAT Happens IF this Option is Turned-On ?
Does it Lock-Up the Scope or Create OTHER Problems ?
Or does it Simply Not Accurately Display 500mV Signals & Voltages at this 500mV / Division Setting ?

If SOMEONE could Please post some further DETAILS on this Topic . . . This confusion could be dispelled . . . Many Thanks & Cheers from Orion12 

NOT A CHANCE.  Because people are unwilling to read!  This has been discussed on page 113 of this thread.  ONLY 14 pages back!

Sorry but I count how many times this has been discussed.

[Howardlong]

My understanding is two fold. 
  1)  A lot of noise in the 500uV/div setting, and
  2)  The 500uV/div setting is NOT calibrated.  You may not even be able to see the trace or adjust it to be on the screen.

I think the Reason this Question on the 500mV / DS1054Z Functionality has come up Repeatedly is BECAUSE their has Not Been Enough SPECIFIC Data posted on EXACTLY What Problems setting this 500mV Option ON will produce on the DS1054Z . . . ? ? ? ( I know I also Posted about this Question )

It's been mentioned on this thread that the DS1054Z does NOT have 500vM Hardware support . . . Rigol obviously Makes this AVAILABLE in the Options Menu so WHAT Happens IF this Option is Turned-On ?
Does it Lock-Up the Scope or Create OTHER Problems ?
Or does it Simply Not Accurately Display 500mV Signals & Voltages at this 500mV / Division Setting ?

If SOMEONE could Please post some further DETAILS on this Topic . . . This confusion could be dispelled . . . Many Thanks & Cheers from Orion12 

NOT A CHANCE.  Because people are unwilling to read!  This has been discussed on page 113 of this thread.  ONLY 14 pages back!

Sorry but I count how many times this has been discussed.

Correct, it has been discussed many times. These are my findings:

The 500uV is derived digitally, the ADC resolution doesn't improve, so you get to see the discrete ADC steps very obviously on the display.

The DC offset isn't calibrated out: in my case, one channel's not too far off, but the other three are miles out, and some are so far out they cannot be manually pulled onto the display at all.

[Orion12]

My understanding is two fold. 
  1)  A lot of noise in the 500uV/div setting, and
  2)  The 500uV/div setting is NOT calibrated.  You may not even be able to see the trace or adjust it to be on the screen.

I think the Reason this Question on the 500uV / DS1054Z Functionality has come up Repeatedly is BECAUSE their has Not Been Enough SPECIFIC Data posted on EXACTLY What Problems setting this 500uV Option ON will produce on the DS1054Z . . . ? ? ? ( I know I also Posted about this Question )

It's been mentioned on this thread that the DS1054Z does NOT have 500uM Hardware support . . . Rigol obviously Makes this AVAILABLE in the Options Menu so WHAT Happens IF this Option is Turned-On ?
Does it Lock-Up the Scope or Create OTHER Problems ?
Or does it Simply Not Accurately Display 500uV Signals & Voltages at this 500uV / Division Setting ?

If SOMEONE could Please post some further DETAILS on this Topic . . . This confusion could be dispelled . . . Many Thanks & Cheers from Orion12 

NOT A CHANCE.  Because people are unwilling to read!  This has been discussed on page 113 of this thread.  ONLY 14 pages back!

Sorry but I count how many times this has been discussed.

Correct, it has been discussed many times. These are my findings:

The 500uV is derived digitally, the ADC resolution doesn't improve, so you get to see the discrete ADC steps very obviously on the display.

The DC offset isn't calibrated out: in my case, one channel's not too far off, but the other three are miles out, and some are so far out they cannot be manually pulled onto the display at all.

Many thanks for this Level of Detail & Understanding of this Topic . . . For ME this Answers most of MY Questions . . . This Of Course LEAVES the Question . . . CAN a CALIBRATION METHOD BE DEVELOPED ?

For NOW I'm NOT Going to OPT for the 500uV Option when I receive my NewBee DS1054Z which should come in Thursday . . . 

Thanks Again for EVERYONE's Attention & Response to this Question . . . Cheers from Orion12 

[Fungus]

Many thanks for this Level of Detail & Understanding of this Topic . . . For ME this Answers most of MY Questions . . . This Of Course LEAVES the Question . . . CAN a CALIBRATION METHOD BE DEVELOPED ?

For NOW I'm NOT Going to OPT for the 500uV Option when I receive my NewBee DS1054Z which should come in Thursday . . . 

Maybe you can use it to investigate your keyboard. The caps lock key seems to have an intermittent fault.

[Gabri74]

Maybe you can use it to investigate your keyboard. The caps lock key seems to have an intermittent fault.

   You just made my day, thanks!

[MarkF]

Many thanks for this Level of Detail & Understanding of this Topic . . . For ME this Answers most of MY Questions . . . This Of Course LEAVES the Question . . . CAN a CALIBRATION METHOD BE DEVELOPED ?

Sure it can.  You need to get a software developer job with Rigol......

[timofonic]

Many thanks for this Level of Detail & Understanding of this Topic . . . For ME this Answers most of MY Questions . . . This Of Course LEAVES the Question . . . CAN a CALIBRATION METHOD BE DEVELOPED ?

Sure it can.  You need to get a software developer job with Rigol......

No! He would remove all the Rigol "fun" and get totally insane in the process. And finally the firmware would end  totally broken, not because of you but their insane ways.

[Datman]

People are unwilling to read!  This has been discussed on page 113 of this thread.  ONLY 14 pages back!
Sorry but I count how many times this has been discussed.

The problem is that in this forum there is a thread for all about a device, then if someone has "something" to do in his life other than reading the forum he can't read ALL the posts looking for a topic...

[MarkF]

People are unwilling to read!  This has been discussed on page 113 of this thread.  ONLY 14 pages back!
Sorry but I count how many times this has been discussed.

The problem is that in this forum there is a thread for all about a device, then if someone has "something" to do in his life other than reading the forum he can't read ALL the posts looking for a topic...

Hence, the SEARCH button!

[bitseeker]

Hence, the SEARCH button!

Be sure to use the Search link in the navigation menu near the top of the page. The search box isn't as effective.

[miguelvp]

Also the search in the thread will find more results than the main page search, but you can use that one to find the threads where something its been discussed.

[timofonic]

The forums needs wiki integration. Here's a WIP post explaining it, I'll expand and bump it once finished.

[Fungus]

The search box isn't as effective is completely useless.

FTFY.

I use google. Just google "EEVBLOG xxxxxx" and you'll get a far better result than the forum search.

[MAS3]

Add this to your Google search.

site:eevblog.com/forum

Works with any site, of course.
I'm not sure the /forum part will actually work, but it seemed to do so when i just tested it.

[bitseeker]

Yes, site: works with domain and any partial path information desired to refine the search scope.

e.g.,

site:eevblog.com searches all of EEVBlog
site:eevblog.com/forum searches all pages that begin with eevblog.com/forum
site:eevblog.com/forum/testgear searches all pages in the Test Gear forum

[Orion12]

Many thanks for this Level of Detail & Understanding of this Topic . . . For ME this Answers most of MY Questions . . . This Of Course LEAVES the Question . . . CAN a CALIBRATION METHOD BE DEVELOPED ?

Sure it can.  You need to get a software developer job with Rigol......

If I did that THEN I'd Be Feeding the Conventional Corporate Money System . . . We ALL Know Where that Leads . . . ( You know - Retirement on a Private Island - Maybe in Your Dreams )

No! He would remove all the Rigol "fun" and get totally insane in the process. And finally the firmware would end  totally broken, not because of you but their insane ways.

Another APPLICATION Might Be to Use ALL this "Brain Power" & "Expertise" from Forum Members to "Engineer" the Ultimate Affordable Multi-Scope and THEN Open-Source it Out for Mfg Worldwide . . .
Keeping in Mind of Course that ALL Designs of Potential Futures / Simply Start with an Idea . . .

btw : I just recieved my NewBee Rigol DS1054Z or should I say DS1104Z 100Mhz Scope . . . What a Nice New Techie Toy . . . Thanks again for ALL of Your Inputs & Advises
Cheers from Orion12 

[xrunner]

btw : I just recieved my NewBee Rigol DS1054Z or should I say DS1104Z 100Mhz Scope . . . What a Nice New Techie Toy . . . Thanks again for ALL of Your Inputs & Advises
Cheers from Orion12 

I'm GLAD you are ENJOYING it! I like mine ALSO - even WITHOUT the hack it is BETTER than I expected.

 

[Karel]

Even better, use Google and write: site:eevblog.com/forum/ your search string

[crispy_tofu]

@Karel, look 4 posts up 

[Datman]

...but do you think that a well-structured forum would be too simple to use? 
Look, i.e., at homestudioitalia forum: there is a thread for each topic, then you don't have to fish for something in a vegetable soup 
In Test Equipment there would be a sub section >DSO, then >Rigol, then >DS1054Z issues / DS1054 mods / DS1054 hits and in each one a thread for each topic, in which each one talks about the same thing!