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Offline Chumanista

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2900 on: September 16, 2016, 01:12:13 pm »
I just made a video guide to updating the firmware and unlocking:
 
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2901 on: September 16, 2016, 02:41:59 pm »
I just made a video guide to updating the firmware and unlocking:

Very nice!  I am sure it will be a great help to new users.
 
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2902 on: September 16, 2016, 03:14:49 pm »
To enter a key via the scope's interface is a pain in the ass.
It's much easier, faster and less prone to error, to connect your scope to your pc via LAN, and use telnet.

Check the IP-address of your scope in the scopes menu.

On your pc, open a console and enter:

telnet 192.168.1.17 5555     (modify the IP-address)

Check connectivity using the command:

*IDN?

The scope will respond with brand, model and serial number.

Now enter:

:SYST:OPT:INST PDUY9N9QTS9PQSWPLAETRD3UJHYA   (replace the key with yours)

That's all.

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2903 on: September 16, 2016, 03:43:15 pm »
I didn't know you could do it with telnet, I thought you had to install that horrible driver software from the CD.

Edit: I just tried it and it works  :)

Code: [Select]
*IDN?
RIGOL TECHNOLOGIES,DS1104Z,DS1ZA123456XX,00.04.04.SP1


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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2904 on: September 16, 2016, 05:34:45 pm »
In case you have to send it back for service/repair and you want to remove the installed options:

:SYST:OPT:UNINST

will uninstall the installed options.

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2905 on: September 16, 2016, 06:31:21 pm »
I didn't know you could do it with telnet, I thought you had to install that horrible driver software from the CD.

Edit: I just tried it and it works  :)

Code: [Select]
*IDN?
RIGOL TECHNOLOGIES,DS1104Z,DS1ZA123456XX,00.04.04.SP1

Not reading my posts?    :clap:
I've posted on the use of telnet to talk to the scope several times (at least nine times in fact). See my posts from July of 2015 for example:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/is-ds1054z-with-firmware-00-04-02-04-07-hackable/msg715684/#msg715684
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/is-ds1054z-with-firmware-00-04-02-04-07-hackable/msg715695/#msg715695

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I thought you had to install that horrible driver software from the CD.

Rigol-bashing, are we?   :-DD
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2906 on: September 16, 2016, 07:21:27 pm »

Not reading my posts?    :clap:
I've posted on the use of telnet to talk to the scope several times (at least nine times in fact). See my posts from July of 2015 for example:


Before my time here...  Nevertheless, it works perfectly although I had hoped for some kind of prompt.  Talking to a blank screen is a little disconcerting.

Given that Telnet works, which means a simple TCP connection will probably also work, there's no reason to get locked in to the provided software.  It might take a little packet sniffing to see how things work.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2907 on: September 17, 2016, 04:21:23 am »
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2908 on: September 17, 2016, 04:54:26 am »
http://www.teuniz.net/DSRemote/

I'll have to give that a try next time I have my Linux system running.
Not that I need the feature, really, just a curiosity.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2909 on: September 17, 2016, 07:10:13 am »
It might take a little packet sniffing to see how things work.

No need to. Everything is documented (in theory and besides bugs):

http://int.rigol.com/File/TechDoc/20151218/MSO1000Z&DS1000Z_ProgrammingGuide_EN.pdf

cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5989-6717EN.pdf

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2910 on: September 17, 2016, 09:18:41 am »
Related to the vertical positioning response speed that's become the new DS1054Z-hater's whipping-post:

I wonder how smoothly the signal traces can be moved up/down the screen using the SCPI interface.

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2911 on: September 17, 2016, 03:17:38 pm »
Follow up on the panel LED not turning off problem...

I have been using the scope with faulty panel lights because I can't afford to be without my scope for two weeks.

I plug the usb drive with new firmware in the scope right after I switch on the scope.

This time, the scope turn on and the lights are normal. It fixed the problem without upgrading the firmware.

I suspect the scope did some sneaky things (write flash?) without user confirmation.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2912 on: September 17, 2016, 03:47:30 pm »
Follow up on the panel LED not turning off problem...

I have been using the scope with faulty panel lights because I can't afford to be without my scope for two weeks.

I plug the usb drive with new firmware in the scope right after I switch on the scope.

This time, the scope turn on and the lights are normal. It fixed the problem without upgrading the firmware.

I suspect the scope did some sneaky things (write flash?) without user confirmation.

After I recalibrate the scope, the problem came back. It is probably a hardware failure at this point.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2913 on: September 17, 2016, 05:05:46 pm »
It might take a little packet sniffing to see how things work.

No need to. Everything is documented (in theory and besides bugs):

http://int.rigol.com/File/TechDoc/20151218/MSO1000Z&DS1000Z_ProgrammingGuide_EN.pdf

cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5989-6717EN.pdf

Definitely worth downloading and reading.  I doubt that I will ever do anything with it but it's nice to have the information.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2914 on: September 19, 2016, 10:12:36 pm »

So yes, a BIG improvement.  Massive. Looks like the DS1000Z firmware team have returned. :-+

For general information, I come from a really old firmware (04.02.sp4) and upgrading to 04.04.01.01 has slowed down the vertical movement noticeably when in STOP mode. I tried just before the update with the test signal and in STOP mode it was so very fluid - almost CRO-like, I'd say - a now it's not noticeably different from the RUN mode.

It appears, though, that in RUN mode things got a little better. The waveform appear to shim a little bit, but... oh, well.

Ok, now I'll go see what is new... :-)


Oh, BTW: does it matters to have only one or all four channel when doing an autocalibration?
« Last Edit: September 19, 2016, 10:21:20 pm by Sredni »
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2915 on: September 19, 2016, 11:21:14 pm »

Oh, BTW: does it matters to have only one or all four channel when doing an autocalibration?

The directions say to remove the 4 probes, that's all that is required.  The test program will deal with the channels in its own way.  You will see the traces moving up and down.
 
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2916 on: September 20, 2016, 06:14:30 pm »
Hello,
I cannot check the detailed systeminfo. I cannot tip faster.
Anyone the same problem?
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2917 on: September 20, 2016, 06:58:23 pm »
I cannot check the detailed systeminfo. I cannot tip faster.

Works fine for me. Menu, Menu, Force, Menu. That's the only part of the sequence that you press in quick succession. Then, access the System Info screen normally. Maybe you're going too fast and the scope is missing one or more key presses.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2918 on: September 20, 2016, 07:03:04 pm »
ok, thank you! It's working!  :D
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2919 on: September 20, 2016, 07:07:07 pm »
Great! :phew:
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2920 on: September 23, 2016, 11:40:29 am »
There is NEW Firmware available now for the MSO/DS1000Z Oscilloscopes
FW Version: 00.04.04.01.01
Released: 2016/09/14
 o  Added support for the multi-inteface of LXI
 o  Fixed bugs with Auto-Measurement functions

http://int.rigol.com/File/ProductSoftWare/20160914/DS1000Z(ARM)update.rar

Edit:  I see now (thanks to 'alsetalokin4017') that 'IAmBack' reported this firmware release in 'Reply #2878' on September 14, 2016.  https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-rigol-ds1054z-oscilloscope/msg1026216/#msg1026216   I don't know how I missed seeing this. :palm:   If you go back and read the reply's after his post you will see responses to the fixes.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2921 on: September 23, 2016, 12:24:37 pm »
There is NEW Firmware available now for the MSO/DS1000Z Oscilloscopes
FW Version: 00.04.04.01.01
Released: 2016/09/14
 o  Added support for the multi-inteface of LXI
 o  Fixed bugs with Auto-Measurement functions

http://int.rigol.com/File/ProductSoftWare/20160914/DS1000Z(ARM)update.rar

Coming thick and fast now!

They've changed the way the vertical movement works so it's now continuous movement while you turn the knob.

With one channel on it's very responsive. Not quite analog, but not bad.

Two channels a little bit worse.

Three channels... a bit worse.

Four channels... a bit laggy and some overshoot. It's OK with a delicate touch, hamfisted youtube bloggers will hate on it.

Overall? It's an improvement. With one or two channels enabled it's definitely better.  :-+

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2922 on: September 23, 2016, 12:29:32 pm »
Looks like they're reading this forum...  :popcorn:

 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2923 on: September 23, 2016, 12:35:07 pm »
There is NEW Firmware available now for the MSO/DS1000Z Oscilloscopes
FW Version: 00.04.04.01.01
Released: 2016/09/14
 o  Added support for the multi-inteface of LXI
 o  Fixed bugs with Auto-Measurement functions

http://int.rigol.com/File/ProductSoftWare/20160914/DS1000Z(ARM)update.rar

Coming thick and fast now!

They've changed the way the vertical movement works so it's now continuous movement while you turn the knob.

With one channel on it's very fast. Not quite analog, but not bad.

Two channels a little bit worse.

Three channels... a bit worse.

Four channels... a bit laggy and some overshoot. OK with a delicate touch, hamfisted youtube bloggers need not apply.

On the whole, I'll say it's an improvement - with one and two channels enabled it's definitely better.

Even faster than you think  ;D
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2924 on: September 23, 2016, 12:39:35 pm »
Just checked the extended system info (menu,menu,force,menu) on my recently purchased 1054Z and I get the following versions:-

Software 00.04.04.00.07
Firmware 0.2.3.11

So a little confused as to what the latest actually is?
« Last Edit: September 23, 2016, 12:41:09 pm by StuUK »
 


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