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Offline DanielS

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1300 on: April 11, 2015, 11:51:43 pm »
Where has it been posted? The first page of this thread has someone asking for the code, and so does the last...
Most posts with the info have been either edited or deleted.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1301 on: April 12, 2015, 01:07:18 am »
It has been posted a few times, but Evan of Tequipment asked people not to post it again.

You only need it if you want to order when Tequipment is closed... which is kind of pointless since they won't process the order until they're open again.

Where has it been posted? The first page of this thread has someone asking for the code, and so does the last...

PM Sent.

And now we're back on topic, Rigol DS1054Z.  ;)
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1302 on: April 12, 2015, 07:22:00 am »
Batronix don't seem to update firmware in my experience so you get what's been factory shipped. Two other Rigol suppliers I've used do open the box up and update the firmware as necesary. However, if it's right off the boat I suspect it'll have a very recent firmware on it anyway.
BTW, how to get notification of newer f/w releases (apart of perusing EEVblog forum :D)?
By sending the scope registration card (or its electronic equivalent) to Rigol?
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1303 on: April 12, 2015, 08:18:21 am »

I'd download the current firmware just in case it disappears. That has the infamous jitter fault resolved at least.

Any url's where to download that ?

I can't seem to find it at Batronix , and at Rigo i have to request it (doesn't have a SN, as i have not gotten the unit)

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1304 on: April 12, 2015, 08:24:49 am »
Batronix don't seem to update firmware in my experience so you get what's been factory shipped. Two other Rigol suppliers I've used do open the box up and update the firmware as necesary. However, if it's right off the boat I suspect it'll have a very recent firmware on it anyway.
BTW, how to get notification of newer f/w releases (apart of perusing EEVblog forum :D)?
By sending the scope registration card (or its electronic equivalent) to Rigol?

Keeping an eye on here has been my method. I'm not aware of a public central repository. There is a list here of latest versions http://www.rigol-uk.co.uk/Get-the-latest-RIGOL-firmware-p/firmtest.htm but typically getting hold of it is "on request" from dealers unless you happen to see a link on here.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1305 on: April 12, 2015, 08:26:06 am »
It would be handy, if someone would who gets the new firmware would upload it here. Maybe make a "Rigol DZ1000 firmware thread"..

I'm also waiting on my device to ship from Batronix.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1306 on: April 12, 2015, 11:06:35 am »
Since a number of questions seem to come up frequently on this thread, I have added an 'FAQ section' to the first message.

It currently contains details of the firmware jitter fix, the 'hack', the tequipment discount code and links to Dave's blogs about the scope.

Suggestions for additions or corrections are welcome.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1307 on: April 12, 2015, 12:01:01 pm »
Btw. are there any discount codes for European resellers like Batterfly or Batronix?

I don't know about discount codes, but Batronix sent a mail that prices will increase very soon. I don't have the mail anymore (at least at home), but the DS1054Z will rise to about 400 Euros including VAT. Many many other items will get more expensive, too, because of the adverse USD:EUR exchange rate shift in the last months. So if you want it, better get it today. As far as I recall, the new prices will be in effect next week...
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1308 on: April 12, 2015, 12:14:20 pm »

Unlocked with key from Riglol zipfile Linux command-line keygen, compiled for my system, no problem whatsoever.
Where can I get that tool?

My scope should arrive this month :-)
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1309 on: April 12, 2015, 12:19:29 pm »

Unlocked with key from Riglol zipfile Linux command-line keygen, compiled for my system, no problem whatsoever.
Where can I get that tool?

My scope should arrive this month :-)

 :palm: Why do I even bother?

A couple of posts ago I mentioned that a link to the hack is now available on the first post in this thread.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1310 on: April 12, 2015, 12:37:10 pm »
:palm: Why do I even bother?

Rolycat, don't get annoyed. How can we ever boost our post count if it were not for spaced out noobs. I must say that first post is one of the best ones ever. All you would need in one place yet no TMI overload. I think many thread makers underestimate the importance of keeping post one updated.

So I guess just mentioning EEvblog is enough for the discount? If so then my criticism of the PM game is unjustified. Looks like many of the beggars do not realize the code is optional.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1311 on: April 12, 2015, 12:40:32 pm »

Unlocked with key from Riglol zipfile Linux command-line keygen, compiled for my system, no problem whatsoever.
Where can I get that tool?

My scope should arrive this month :-)
TLDR syndrome. Probably the best way is to make a new topic with the right keywords, put the info in it and post it, then lock it and ask an admin ( Simon, Seppy or Dave) to make it sticky, so it will show up in the first page of posts in test equipment.

Works till the first page gets full, when an admin will have to make a decision as to which ones go unsticky. That way when a TLDR chimes in, or there is an update, you can simply point them to the thread, and updates you as originator can unlock, post then relock the thread.

 :palm: Why do I even bother?

A couple of posts ago I mentioned that a link to the hack is now available on the first post in this thread.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1312 on: April 12, 2015, 12:48:12 pm »
Btw. are there any discount codes for European resellers like Batterfly or Batronix?

I don't know about discount codes, but Batronix sent a mail that prices will increase very soon. I don't have the mail anymore (at least at home), but the DS1054Z will rise to about 400 Euros including VAT. Many many other items will get more expensive, too, because of the adverse USD:EUR exchange rate shift in the last months. So if you want it, better get it today. As far as I recall, the new prices will be in effect next week...

MCS in the UK are currently offering 10% off their Rigol kit if you use the code 'rigolcomp' at checkout. Their prices go up on the 15th, and the DS1054Z won't be in stock until mid-June. You may be able to order one at the old price, though.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1313 on: April 12, 2015, 12:54:03 pm »
MCS in the UK are currently offering 10% off their Rigol kit if you use the code 'rigolcomp' at checkout. Their prices go up on the 15th, though, and they don't have the DS1054Z in stock.
Thanks. I already received my unit from eleshop.eu. One friend is also interested about buying one.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1314 on: April 12, 2015, 05:16:59 pm »
My problem now seems to be intermittent. The CH4 offset issue comes and goes, with some dramatic screen glitches on the CH4 trace.
Check your probe for an intermittent X1/X10 switch - out of my two DS1054Z, I have three probes with chronic switch issues on the X1 position and two or three more I wouldn't trust either.

As for the offsets, the channel offsets on both of my scopes jump around depending on which channel combination is enabled and some channels drift by as much as 2/5th of a division over time. Some people have said offsets can even vary depending on the order channels are enabled but I have not noticed that specific quirk on mine.

Nope, it's not the probe(s). Actually all 4 of my probes seem fine, switches work, springhook clips have their insides, etc. When it decides to glitch, the CH4 glitch is there even when no probes at all are connected and the scope is just running along in "Auto" trigger showing channel baselines, as long as the channels aren't "Ground" input-coupled. It seems to have gotten worse over time, too. I'm afraid I'm going to have to return it.
What's really odd is that when it's _not_ glitching, the CH4 is the most stable and lowest-noise of the 4.
The amplitude of the glitch is much greater when 5V/div is selected, and almost goes away when 2V/div or lower is selected, until really sensitive settings in the tens of mV are selected.
(Also tested with and without the 100MHz and other features "unlocked", no effect on glitching.)


So Monday I'll be talking to TEquipment to see what we can do about getting a replacement unit, hopefully sent to MY house not the vacant one next door.

ETA: Could it still be a software/calibration issue? It was glitching almost continuously a little while ago, so I decided to try the self-calibration Yet Again (probably the 5th time I've done it, always after thorough warm-up (and with nothing connected to any inputs, as per the Manual instructions and the Big Note that comes up on the screen, heh...) and now it's running along with CH4 perfectly stable and low-noise, only a tiny offset of about 1/2V in 5V/div vertical scale. See the screenshot below, in Pass-Fail mode waiting for a glitch to come up. No probes connected.

I think that the reason it updates more slowly when a "fail" waveform is detected, as Dave noted in the video review,  is so that the user has time to Stop the scope and do a screen capture before the glitch disappears. Here I've got it set to Stop on Fail, and if/when it does I'll capture that in a screenshot.

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Hopefully I'll remember "I like the way you think!" if you ever have a post about being scammed, etc.

Humor-deficient, are we? Can't recognize a joke? As a "newbie" I did not feel right responding with outright criticism of the suggested theft, as you have done, so I responded instead with a little attempt at humor while still rejecting the suggestion-- which I think was probably a joke in the first place. As I said in a later post, contacting UPS customer service with a complaint was _the right thing to do_ and that's exactly what I did. You should know, though, that a signature WAS "required", yet the driver obviously ignored that requirement when he/she dropped off the expensive package at the wrong, vacant, house in a neighborhood known for items "disappearing" from front porches.
Or, maybe _you_ are only joking? Hard to tell with text.

ETA: It has started glitching again, no probes connected. See below. This is "minor" compared to how wild it can get.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1315 on: April 12, 2015, 05:34:30 pm »
As far as the Unlocking "hack" is concerned, I've seen several people report that the website doesn't generate proper codes. I've confirmed this is true for at least some serial numbers.
If anyone has this problem... let me make a suggestion:
Find and download the "riglol.zip" file and run the Windows .exe or the HTML app included in that file, or if you are a Linux user, compile and run the Linux command-line app (makefile included in the Linux portion of the zipfile). You may get a different code than you get from the website, and this new code may work where the website's did not.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1316 on: April 13, 2015, 05:08:20 pm »

I'd download the current firmware just in case it disappears. That has the infamous jitter fault resolved at least.

Any url's where to download that ?

I can't seem to find it at Batronix , and at Rigo i have to request it (doesn't have a SN, as i have not gotten the unit)

/Bingo

The most current update (as of Jan 2015) is here --> http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/attachment/1579/f-0576/1/-/-/-/-/DS1000ZUpdate.zip?sid=tips2o74i

The proper procedure is to request for a firmware update under the Software tab on this page ---> http://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/ds1000Z/
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1317 on: April 13, 2015, 06:42:29 pm »
Btw. are there any discount codes for European resellers like Batterfly or Batronix?

I don't know about discount codes, but Batronix sent a mail that prices will increase very soon. I don't have the mail anymore (at least at home), but the DS1054Z will rise to about 400 Euros including VAT. Many many other items will get more expensive, too, because of the adverse USD:EUR exchange rate shift in the last months. So if you want it, better get it today. As far as I recall, the new prices will be in effect next week...

FYI: http://www.batronix.com/pdf/Preisaenderung_Rigol.pdf
DS1054Z -> 299 to 339€ excl. VAT (403€ including 19%)

I guess other vendors will do the same, so if you want any Rigol equipment, hurry up, you got 27 hours to place your order.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1318 on: April 13, 2015, 06:53:01 pm »

I'd download the current firmware just in case it disappears. That has the infamous jitter fault resolved at least.

Any url's where to download that ?

I can't seem to find it at Batronix , and at Rigo i have to request it (doesn't have a SN, as i have not gotten the unit)

/Bingo

The most current update (as of Jan 2015) is here --> http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/attachment/1579/f-0576/1/-/-/-/-/DS1000ZUpdate.zip?sid=tips2o74i

The proper procedure is to request for a firmware update under the Software tab on this page ---> http://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/ds1000Z/

Thanx for the fw url  :-+

But regarding the "proper way of requesting" , i don't suppose i'll have much luck , as i haven't got my scope yet.
And therefore doesnt have a Serial to supply to Rigol, as i also wrote.

TIA

/Bingo
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1319 on: April 14, 2015, 06:58:41 am »
Concerning the scope: I just got my DS1054z about a week ago. Such a neat little scope (nice to see that some things are still made well) after having worked with an out-dated analog one for years.  Concerning the hack, I don't mind paying for the options as a way of supporting them for providing such a scope at such a reasonable price - just bought the serial decoder, which I must admit works really well.  :-+
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1320 on: April 14, 2015, 03:38:49 pm »
What sort of budget solutions are people using for differential measurements & clip on current measurements with their DS1054Z scopes?  Both differential and current probes can easily exceed the cost of a DS1054Z and I figured the resourceful owners of this scope have more budget oriented solutions.  :)
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1321 on: April 14, 2015, 07:20:51 pm »
Welcome to the forum.

What sort of budget solutions are people using for differential measurements & clip on current measurements with their DS1054Z scopes?  Both differential and current probes can easily exceed the cost of a DS1054Z and I figured the resourceful owners of this scope have more budget oriented solutions.  :)
Welcome to the world of advanced measurements.
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Use the Search button close to your profile, not the one top right.
You should be able to find several recent threads on these topics.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1322 on: April 14, 2015, 10:18:15 pm »
Hello
 I am also waiting for a DS1054Z and I have a doubt, which is the private key and where can I get?

 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1323 on: April 15, 2015, 01:06:36 am »
Just got my DS1054 and it is a nice scope.  Tried to unlock features and got the invalid license message (has 00.04.02 SP4).  Anyone have any ideas or suggestions.  Thanks in advance.  Also what can I do to get around the "install avoid for 12 hours"?
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #1324 on: April 15, 2015, 01:16:45 am »
Welcome to the forum.
Thanks.
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Welcome to the world of advanced measurements.
For accurate and trusted measurements there are few options.

Use the Search button close to your profile, not the one top right.
You should be able to find several recent threads on these topics.
Based on my searches of the forum, per your suggestion, there is no such thing as a low cost clip on current probe that is reasonably accurate for AC & DC but there are a few low cost crappy ones for sale.  Likewise there are no high voltage low cost differential probes.
 


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