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New Rigol DS7000
Muxr:
I agree with nctnico.. Don't see a point. If you're spending $3K+ on a scope chances are you're not a hobbyist. And as such you should get a proper scope from one of the big boys.
Rigol's UI alone makes me want to pull my hair out. No way would I put up with it if money wasn't tight, which if you're getting one of these 7K ones, it isn't. Not to mention all the bugs.
hendorog:
--- Quote from: Muxr on July 28, 2018, 05:18:29 am ---I agree with nctnico.. Don't see a point. If you're spending $3K+ on a scope chances are you're not a hobbyist. And as such you should get a proper scope from one of the big boys.
Rigol's UI alone makes me want to pull my hair out. No way would I put up with it if money wasn't tight, which if you're getting one of these 7K ones, it isn't. Not to mention all the bugs.
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The price of the lowest end model is a mere $400 more than the list price of the, rather old now, DS4014. And it has much better specs.
Quite a few of us have those DS4k scopes.
It might turn out to be rubbish, will be interested to see what Dave thinks. But right now it looks pretty good.
And with a bit of luck the big boys will be forced to release something decent to compete, like last time. It's a win win for hobbyists.
timgiles:
I agree, looking like the UI is responsive throughout the video - only that it is waiting for a trigger event to occur.
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--- Quote from: jjoonathan on July 28, 2018, 01:50:40 am ---You can judge here: https://youtu.be/zrfG9wtQjh0?t=98
The big color-graded FM demo was static for a reason ::)
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You mean the slow refresh? But isnt that just because its being triggered externally by the spec an?
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nctnico:
--- Quote from: snoopy on July 28, 2018, 12:42:33 am ---Looks like Tek, Keysight and others might have a bit of catching up to do. The days of charging megabucks for a mid level scope might be over now that the chinese have moved into this segment. But then doesn't the Tek MDO3000 come bundled with a spectrum analyser ?
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The devil is in the details. I went down this road before thinking a 'cheaper' Chinese scope would perform equally well based on specs on paper but it didn't and I ended up wasting a few k euro.
2N3055:
--- Quote from: timgiles on July 28, 2018, 07:43:20 am ---I agree, looking like the UI is responsive throughout the video - only that it is waiting for a trigger event to occur.
--- Quote from: hendorog on July 28, 2018, 04:49:39 am ---
--- Quote from: jjoonathan on July 28, 2018, 01:50:40 am ---You can judge here: https://youtu.be/zrfG9wtQjh0?t=98
The big color-graded FM demo was static for a reason ::)
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You mean the slow refresh? But isnt that just because its being triggered externally by the spec an?
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And also, that is on a 125 Megasamples... Not 32kS, not 4MS.. So that looks interesting.
It seems a very promising hardware. It will drill down to bugs. If it won't be buggy then a good scope.
As far as U/I goes, that's personal preference..
From what I could see browsing through the manual, it has many good things.
The problems I see:
* One thing I don't like is that in manual math seems very rudimentary. The way it is described in manual it doesn't have advanced mode, meaning arbitrary math. That means math, as described, is on the level of ds100Z not ds4000. That's not good.
* Math source can be only channel and ref. No math to math piping. R&S RTM3000 does it right.
* Because of 2. you cannot perform FFT on math. That would be awesome. Picoscope, R&S RTM3000, Tek MDO3000/4000 and others can do it...
* On all list/table based U/I elements, use of screen estate is inefficient. Lots of small windows in the middle of the screen,overlapping over other important data, no docking... R&S is doing it right, Lecroy too. Keysight is kinda OK. I'm sure if I played with it for some time I would find more things that are suboptimal for a scope that wants to be midrange..
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