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New Rigol DS7000
jjoonathan:
--- Quote from: timgiles on July 28, 2018, 07:43:20 am ---I agree, looking like the UI is responsive throughout the video - only that it is waiting for a trigger event to occur.
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I'm looking at the considerable delay between the trace appearing and the FFT updating. It's a good fraction of a second.
2N3055:
--- Quote from: jjoonathan on July 28, 2018, 12:52:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: timgiles on July 28, 2018, 07:43:20 am ---I agree, looking like the UI is responsive throughout the video - only that it is waiting for a trigger event to occur.
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I'm looking at the considerable delay between the trace appearing and the FFT updating. It's a good fraction of a second.
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It says 125 Mega samples.... so it's probably not a 32k FFT..
carl0s:
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on July 28, 2018, 10:21:43 am ---
--- Quote from: timgiles on July 28, 2018, 07:43:20 am ---I agree, looking like the UI is responsive throughout the video - only that it is waiting for a trigger event to occur.
--- Quote from: hendorog on July 28, 2018, 04:49:39 am ---
--- Quote from: jjoonathan on July 28, 2018, 01:50:40 am ---You can judge here: https://youtu.be/zrfG9wtQjh0?t=98
The big color-graded FM demo was static for a reason ::)
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You mean the slow refresh? But isnt that just because its being triggered externally by the spec an?
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And also, that is on a 125 Megasamples... Not 32kS, not 4MS.. So that looks interesting.
It seems a very promising hardware. It will drill down to bugs. If it won't be buggy then a good scope.
As far as U/I goes, that's personal preference..
From what I could see browsing through the manual, it has many good things.
The problems I see:
* One thing I don't like is that in manual math seems very rudimentary. The way it is described in manual it doesn't have advanced mode, meaning arbitrary math. That means math, as described, is on the level of ds100Z not ds4000. That's not good.
* Math source can be only channel and ref. No math to math piping. R&S RTM3000 does it right.
* Because of 2. you cannot perform FFT on math. That would be awesome. Picoscope, R&S RTM3000, Tek MDO3000/4000 and others can do it...
* On all list/table based U/I elements, use of screen estate is inefficient. Lots of small windows in the middle of the screen,overlapping over other important data, no docking... R&S is doing it right, Lecroy too. Keysight is kinda OK. I'm sure if I played with it for some time I would find more things that are suboptimal for a scope that wants to be midrange..
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and those god damn button shapes. I can't un-see it now on my DS1054Z. There's no logic to it at all. I think I have been able to fathom out some of the sort of symmetry that has made them choose which corners to chop off which buttons, but it's utterly insane and no other equipment has weird randomly shaped buttons.
Fungus:
--- Quote from: carl0s on July 28, 2018, 03:00:39 pm ---and those god damn button shapes. I can't un-see it now on my DS1054Z. There's no logic to it at all. I think I have been able to fathom out some of the sort of symmetry that has made them choose which corners to chop off which buttons, but it's utterly insane and no other equipment has weird randomly shaped buttons.
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You won't even see them after it's been on your bench for two days.
2N3055:
--- Quote from: carl0s on July 28, 2018, 03:00:39 pm ---and those god damn button shapes. I can't un-see it now on my DS1054Z. There's no logic to it at all. I think I have been able to fathom out some of the sort of symmetry that has made them choose which corners to chop off which buttons, but it's utterly insane and no other equipment has weird randomly shaped buttons.
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Yeah, while i kinda agree with you it is not some fancy design, i couldn't care less. It's a tool...
I personally think design (apart from ergonomics) is being given too much attention ( ^-^ ).. I abhor form over function...
I DO care about clear logical layout, that support hierarchy of instruments menus and functions...
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