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| carl0s:
--- Quote from: Hydrawerk on August 04, 2018, 06:40:04 pm ---I am looking formward to the review. https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/1024170698275618817 It is already online. --- End quote --- Yes you're right Dave, that physical interface is a complete.. a complete failure. My DS1054Z is bad, but that has twice as much of everything. It extends into the square corners and face of the housing itself. FFS Rigol, soften the edges of everything. Make buttons square with slightly radiused corners, or just round, maybe with a convex front, orient all the text horizontally, and don't mix conflicting of fonts. If a button says "Back" on it, give it an arrow pointing to the left (back), not an arrow pointing up. I know it's not of primary importance, but it's pretty important. It's like decent spelling and grammar in business. |
| Wolfgang:
Not true. With 8Bits resolution on paper, you will get quite less bits in reality, due to noise, nonlinearity and other issues. The ENOB value should be compared. The RIGOL does not even have this specified (prove me wrong). I guess that its about 6-7Bits across full bandwidth, not more. |
| Wolfgang:
I cant help the impression that the discussion here focusses a bit much on aspects of aesthetics and product exterior design and not so much on the features and specs of the unit. The same thing happened with other equipment like the RIGOL electronic load, e.g. There were serious flaws, but the majority of the review minutes spent was on design aspects if button should be labeled left to right or if backwards slanted characters should be allowed by law. This, IMHO, is the wrong priority for a technical forum (dont get me wrong - I dont like their design too much myself - but I dont think it is the most important thing to talk about in such overwhelming detail). So, I suggest to focus on features, compliance to specs, bugs, usability, reliability, ... first, and then all the aesthetic aspects. If handled the other way such a thread gets filled with gossip because everyone has a different taste. :) |
| 1anX:
--- Quote from: Wolfgang on August 07, 2018, 09:23:51 pm ---So, I suggest to focus on features, compliance to specs, bugs, usability, reliability, ... first, and then all the aesthetic aspects. If handled the other way such a thread gets filled with gossip because everyone has a different taste. :) --- End quote --- I agree with your observation! The thing is though, all we have so far is Dave's first impression of the scope. He is about to perform the teardown and then the review later. So really this being the first 3rd party review on the internet we are all waiting on the details of this scope to be revealed. The real strengths and weaknesses are yet to to be revealed and I for one am curious if Rigol have made a step up with this new scope. |
| EEVblog:
Boot output: --- Code: --- U-Boot 2014.01.Rigolee.dirty (2018.03.27 - 15:01:25) I2C: ready Memory: ECC disabled DRAM: 448 MiB DPU: 20170604 NAND: OnDie ECC supported, 1024 MiB zynq-In: serial zynq-Out: serial zynq-Err: serial Net: Gem.e000b000 BootParam=0x0 Hit any key to stop autoboot: 0 NAND read: device 0 offset 0xd900000, size 0x3591fd รพ NAND read: device 0 offset 0xd900000, size 0x8 8 bytes read: OK NAND read: device 0 offset 0xd500000, size 0x12c008 1228808 bytes read: OK Loading logo, x=310,y=247,width=404,height=89 NAND read: device 0 offset 0xe100000, size 0xd8d690 14210704 bytes read: OK ## Loading kernel from FIT Image at 03000000 ... Using 'rootfs@1' configuration Trying 'kernel@1' kernel subimage Description: Flamingo Linux kernel Type: Kernel Image Compression: uncompressed Data Start: 0x030000f8 Data Size: 3296960 Bytes = 3.1 MiB Architecture: ARM OS: Linux Load Address: 0x00100000 Entry Point: 0x00100000 Hash algo: sha1 Hash value: 3baba24f03cf5590e2c536eaa322b6dba603dabf Verifying Hash Integrity ... sha1+ OK ## Loading ramdisk from FIT Image at 03000000 ... Using 'rootfs@1' configuration Trying 'ramdisk@1' ramdisk subimage Description: Flamingo-Update-Ramdisk Type: RAMDisk Image Compression: gzip compressed Data Start: 0x033276fc Data Size: 10901113 Bytes = 10.4 MiB Architecture: ARM OS: Linux Load Address: unavailable Entry Point: unavailable Hash algo: sha1 Hash value: 55bdcbebccba845da403130143793ee0135e53a1 Verifying Hash Integrity ... sha1+ OK ## Loading fdt from FIT Image at 03000000 ... Using 'rootfs@1' configuration Trying 'fdt@1' fdt subimage Description: Flattened Device Tree blob Type: Flat Device Tree Compression: uncompressed Data Start: 0x033250ac Data Size: 9613 Bytes = 9.4 KiB Architecture: ARM Hash algo: sha1 Hash value: 4b3f2131fa7fc01da8110e0b15068def40b971c5 Verifying Hash Integrity ... sha1+ OK Booting using the fdt blob at 0x33250ac Loading Kernel Image ... OK Loading Ramdisk to 1b099000, end 1bafe679 ... OK Loading Device Tree to 1b093000, end 1b09858c ... OK Starting kernel ... Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel. Booting Linux on physical CPU 0x0 Linux version 3.12.0-xilinx (rigolee[member=167213]Jim[/member]) (gcc version 4.8.1 (Sourcery CodeBench Lite 2013.11-53) ) #35 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 22 17:58:17 CST 2018 CPU: ARMv7 Processor [413fc090] revision 0 (ARMv7), cr=18c5387d CPU: PIPT / VIPT nonaliasing data cache, VIPT aliasing instruction cache Machine: Xilinx Zynq Platform, model: Xilinx Zynq Memory policy: Data cache writealloc PERCPU: Embedded 8 pages/cpu @c09ef000 s8384 r8192 d16192 u32768 Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on. Total pages: 113792 Kernel command line: console=ttyPS0,115200 no_console_suspend, root=/dev/ram rw PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 1, 8192 bytes) Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Memory: 437424K/458752K available (4185K kernel code, 255K rwdata, 1716K rodata, 176K init, 178K bss, 21328K reserved, 0K highmem) Virtual kernel memory layout: vector : 0xffff0000 - 0xffff1000 ( 4 kB) fixmap : 0xfff00000 - 0xfffe0000 ( 896 kB) vmalloc : 0xdc800000 - 0xff000000 ( 552 MB) lowmem : 0xc0000000 - 0xdc000000 ( 448 MB) pkmap : 0xbfe00000 - 0xc0000000 ( 2 MB) modules : 0xbf000000 - 0xbfe00000 ( 14 MB) .text : 0xc0008000 - 0xc05cb76c (5902 kB) .init : 0xc05cc000 - 0xc05f80c0 ( 177 kB) .data : 0xc05fa000 - 0xc0639d78 ( 256 kB) .bss : 0xc0639d84 - 0xc0666924 ( 179 kB) Preemptible hierarchical RCU implementation. Dump stacks of tasks blocking RCU-preempt GP. RCU restricting CPUs from NR_CPUS=4 to nr_cpu_ids=2. NR_IRQS:16 nr_irqs:16 16 ps7-slcr mapped to dc802000 Zynq clock init sched_clock: 32 bits at 100 Hz, resolution 10000000ns, wraps every 4294967286ms Console: colour dummy device 80x30 Calibrating delay loop... 1731.78 BogoMIPS (lpj=8658944) pid_max: default: 32768 minimum: 301 Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 CPU: Testing write buffer coherency: ok CPU0: thread -1, cpu 0, socket 0, mpidr 80000000 Setting up static identity map for 0xc03f7df0 - 0xc03f7e48 L310 cache controller enabled l2x0: 8 ways, CACHE_ID 0x410000c8, AUX_CTRL 0x72360000, Cache size: 512 kB CPU1: Booted secondary processor CPU1: thread -1, cpu 1, socket 0, mpidr 80000001 Brought up 2 CPUs SMP: Total of 2 processors activated. CPU: All CPU(s) started in SVC mode. devtmpfs: initialized VFP support v0.3: implementor 41 architecture 3 part 30 variant 9 rev 4 regulator-dummy: no parameters NET: Registered protocol family 16 DMA: preallocated 256 KiB pool for atomic coherent allocations gpio->base_addr is:0xdc84e000 The gpio irq num is:52 zynq_gpio e000a000.ps7-gpio: gpio at 0xe000a000 mapped to 0xdc84e000 hw-breakpoint: found 5 (+1 reserved) breakpoint and 1 watchpoint registers. hw-breakpoint: maximum watchpoint size is 4 bytes. zynq_ocm f800c000.ps7-ocmc: ZYNQ OCM pool: 256 KiB @ 0xdc880000 bio: create slab <bio-0> at 0 vgaarb: loaded SCSI subsystem initialized usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs usbcore: registered new interface driver hub usbcore: registered new device driver usb pps_core: LinuxPPS API ver. 1 registered pps_core: Software ver. 5.3.6 - Copyright 2005-2007 Rodolfo Giometti <giometti[member=183778]linux[/member].it> PTP clock support registered EDAC MC: Ver: 3.0.0 NET: Registered protocol family 2 TCP established hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) TCP bind hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 4096) TCP: reno registered UDP hash table entries: 256 (order: 1, 8192 bytes) UDP-Lite hash table entries: 256 (order: 1, 8192 bytes) NET: Registered protocol family 1 RPC: Registered named UNIX socket transport module. RPC: Registered udp transport module. RPC: Registered tcp transport module. RPC: Registered tcp NFSv4.1 backchannel transport module. Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... rootfs image is not initramfs (no cpio magic); looks like an initrd Freeing initrd memory: 10644K (db099000 - dbafe000) hw perfevents: enabled with ARMv7 Cortex-A9 PMU driver, 7 counters available NTFS driver 2.1.30 [Flags: R/W]. msgmni has been set to 875 io scheduler noop registered io scheduler deadline registered io scheduler cfq registered (default) DPU:Map vRam to 0xdca00000 DPU:Map iReg to 0xdcc00000 DPU:Ver=0x20170604 dma-pl330 f8003000.ps7-dma: unable to set the seg size dma-pl330 f8003000.ps7-dma: Loaded driver for PL330 DMAC-2364208 dma-pl330 f8003000.ps7-dma: DBUFF-128x8bytes Num_Chans-8 Num_Peri-4 Num_Events-16 e0000000.serial: ttyPS0 at MMIO 0xe0000000 (irq = 59, base_baud = 6249999) is a xuartps console [ttyPS0] enabled xuartps e0001000.serial: failed to get alias id, errno -19 e0001000.serial: ttyPS1 at MMIO 0xe0001000 (irq = 82, base_baud = 6249999) is a xuartps brd: module loaded loop: module loaded xspips e0006000.ps7-spi: master is unqueued, this is deprecated xspips e0006000.ps7-spi: at 0xE0006000 mapped to 0xDC858000, irq=58 libphy: XEMACPS mii bus: probed xemacps e000b000.ps7-ethernet: pdev->id -1, baseaddr 0xe000b000, irq 54 ehci_hcd: USB 2.0 'Enhanced' Host Controller (EHCI) Driver ehci-pci: EHCI PCI platform driver ULPI transceiver vendor/product ID 0x0424/0x0009 ULPI integrity check: passed. ULPI transceiver vendor/product ID 0x0424/0x0009 ULPI integrity check: passed. xusbps-ehci xusbps-ehci.1: Xilinx PS USB EHCI Host Controller xusbps-ehci xusbps-ehci.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 xusbps-ehci xusbps-ehci.1: irq 76, io mem 0x00000000 xusbps-ehci xusbps-ehci.1: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 1 port detected usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage mousedev: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice i2c /dev entries driver rtc-rx8010sj 0-0032: Update timer was detected rtc-rx8010sj 0-0032: rtc core: registered rtc-rx8010sj as rtc0 xi2cps e0004000.ps7-i2c: 100 kHz mmio e0004000 irq 57 zynq-edac f8006000.ps7-ddrc: ecc not enabled sdhci: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface driver sdhci: Copyright(c) Pierre Ossman sdhci-pltfm: SDHCI platform and OF driver helper usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid usbhid: USB HID core driver ONFI param page 0 valid ONFI flash detected NAND device: Manufacturer ID: 0x2c, Chip ID: 0xd3 (Micron MT29F8G08ADADAH4), 1024MiB, page size: 2048, OOB size: 64 Bad block table found at page 524224, version 0x01 Bad block table found at page 524160, version 0x01 13 ofpart partitions found on MTD device pl353-nand Creating 13 MTD partitions on "pl353-nand": 0x000000000000-0x000000040000 : "Env" 0x000000100000-0x000004100000 : "DATA" 0x000004100000-0x000004500000 : "Bmp" 0x000004500000-0x000004900000 : "Bmp1" 0x000004900000-0x000005100000 : "Bit1" 0x000005100000-0x000007100000 : "Sys1" 0x000007100000-0x00000d500000 : "App1" 0x00000d500000-0x00000d900000 : "Bmp2" 0x00000d900000-0x00000e100000 : "Bit2" 0x00000e100000-0x000010100000 : "Sys2" 0x000010100000-0x000016500000 : "App2" 0x000016500000-0x00001a800000 : "Reserved" 0x00001a800000-0x000040000000 : "User" TCP: cubic registered NET: Registered protocol family 17 Registering SWP/SWPB emulation handler +-----------------------------------------+ | Touch driver | +-----------------------------------------+ usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using xusbps-ehci hub 1-1:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-1:1.0: 4 ports detected Touchscreen ProductID: 0x2543 Touchscreen VersionID: 0x0102 input: ssd2543 as /devices/amba.1/e0004000.ps7-i2c/i2c-0/0-0048/input/input0 rtc-rx8010sj 0-0032: setting system clock to 2018-08-08 13:49:57 UTC (1533736197) RAMDISK: gzip image found at block 0 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) on device 1:0. devtmpfs: mounted Freeing unused kernel memory: 176K (c05cc000 - c05f8000) Starting rcS... ++ Mounting filesystem ++ Setting up mdev ++ Starting ftp daemon rcS Complete [1B][1;31m<root@rigol>[1B][0mrpcbind: cannot create socket for udp6 rpcbind: cannot create socket for tcp6 2018-08-08 13:50:10: (log.c.166) server started 7 2048 16 2 "/dev/fb0" --- End code --- |
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