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zeratul42:
Any idea to find magic private key  ?

seppeltronics:
Hello

I'm buying an Oscilloscope next week and think I get a Rigol MSO7014. What do you think about the unit? The discussion was that my colleague prefers scopes that have a dedicated knob-set for each channel, so I came up with the MSO7014. The other option would be the R&S RTB2K-104M.

Any comments/recommendations?

Thank you very much,

Best Regards, Seppel

nctnico:
Make a test plan to see if the oscilloscope does what you need it to do. If you need to do that on your boss' dime then you better get the R&S RTB2000 or R&S RTM3000 because there will be no money savings. Bosses like to pay for tools which work out of the box and don't need a whole lot of tinkering.

The R&S scopes are also a much safer bet when it comes to firmware updates and support. Rigol doesn't have a good track record getting the firmware on their higher end scopes fixed quickly. Look at the DS2000 and DS4000 threads on this forum.

seppeltronics:
Hello,

well, the “scope thing” has a longer story. In general we order the scope for one of my colleagues, he'd like to heave TDS2014C (we all know it's a vintage scope), he will use it a lot and he requested to have 4 separate controls. Because the TDS2014C is so hopelessly outdated I stepped in and with the argument that the DS7014 also got 4 knobs we may order the Rigol. Finally I was able to get a better discount on the MSO than the DS, that way I was able to get an MSO. It's a compromise, but considering the TDS2014C starting-point I pulled it very far. The HDMI Output is also something that may be useful on workshops, tech-days,... so I can show off the things we do. The Rigol has an Integral math function, we use the Integral math function a lot on our other measurement systems.

The R&S RTB2k104M with the RTB-PK1 option-bundle was my first choice, but I could not “sell” the “one knob” control to the department actually buying the scope. What also concerns me, the R&S is the piezoelectric effect of the Input, the environment we work in is related to vibration. The R&S is a good scope, that is very likely the next one I will push to buy.

Best Regards, Seppel

nctnico:
The microphonic sensitivity on the R&S RTB2000 is mainly due to the BNCs not being fixed to the case. The RTM3000 has the BNCs bolted to the chassis and this should take care of most of the microphonic sensitivity. Then again I don't think it is much of a problem in real world scenarios. It doesn't look like much but Dave is sending very large impacts directly into the oscilloscopes. It is unlikely a vibrating table causes a similar effect. Also consider that modern scopes have near real-time web interfaces so having a big screen connected to an oscilloscope directly is not that big of an advantage. It is a pity the department buying the scope is so hung up on the 'one knob' because with a good touch screen interface you can do without the knobs AND work faster.

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