Siglent SHS800/1000X model Handheld Scopemeters

[Martin72]

Today I had tried the uart decoding, works without problems.
What is not so great, is the visibility especially that of the list.
In the screenshot it looks quite pale, in "real" is challenging to recognize something.
Here I would like to see a stronger contrast in one of the next firmware updates, for example in which the characters are displayed in black.
Ultimate would be of course the possibility to generally make the background screen switchable, from white to black.

[tautech]

Some settings are wrong Martin.....too many red X's in the decode lines. 

[Martin72]

That's right, now that you mention it....
But there is not much to adjust.
Assignment of the channels, the respective thresholds, baudrate, LSB/MSB, parity, stopbit.
For the demoboard signal it must be set as follows:
9600 baud, LSB first, 8 databits, 1 stopbit, no parity.
I am actually sure that I have set this on the scope, but I can check again on Monday.

[Martin72]

Checked it today, now everything is fine.
Additional checked the I2C decoding with no problems(so I´ve tested SPI, I2C, UART on the siglent).
The longer the timebase, the more lines you can scroll through, the more data will be saved (csv), @maxmatteo.
(changed the .csv to .txt, just rechange it)

[pezcat19]

Hi all,

I was lucky enough to pick up a SHS820X for a price I couldn't refuse. My use case is pretty basic, mostly just radio (RF) and modulation waveform analysis. I am pretty happy so far, it's a decent step up over my Hantek DSO2D15

The first thing I went looking for was the non-existent Dark mode. I really think this scope needs the option for the classic Black background, and Yellow/Green trace options. A lot of other Siglent equipment has this theme - my SDG1062X does. Hopefully Siglent will listen and give us a Dark mode in the near future. I emailed them to ask, but I have had no reply.
It can be very difficult to read some on-screen information as it is now (see the pics).

Other than this, it is working well for my fairly basic requirements. I actually find it nice to use as a benchtop unit, which I was not expecting from a portable scope.

Cheers,
Pez

[pezcat19]

Hi all,

FYI, I emailed Siglent and asked them about adding a "dark" display theme mode. They have said that it might be added to the next firmware release. (I don't know when this is due). It might also be in the form of a screen "Invert" mode. Either way, this would be be best thing they could do to improve this scope.

If you would like to see a dark mode, or screen invert mode, then it might be a good idea to email Siglent and add your 2c!

Attached is a screen capture that I inverted to see how this might look...

Cheers

[InvisibleMan]

I've been encountering a strange bug since I got the SHS810X whereby the History list acquisition time had no relation to the RTC. Here's an example screenshot taken a few seconds after the capture:

The problem was fixed after I set the timezone to New York and then back again to London. Now the acquisition time is correctly reported.

[InvisibleMan]

I see B&K Precision have now introduced their badged version of the 4 Siglent models:

https://www.bkprecision.com/products/oscilloscopes/2511B

They seem identical except for a light coloured front plate and all 4 models have a blue frame (so harder to see if you've picked up the version with non-isolated channels or not).

However, they seem to be pricing them much higher than the equivalent Siglent models for some reason.

[Martin72]

Hi...
We have used the measurement logger function and wanted to copy the previously created folder from internally to a USB stick - this does not work.
There are 3 files in this folder, ending with csv, mat and mlg.
The csv file is interesting for us, but we just can't get it copied.
Then my colleague thought OK, let's connect the scope to the PC and try to access the file.
But the scope is not even recognized as a usb device.
What else can we try?

[InvisibleMan]

Hi...
We have used the measurement logger function and wanted to copy the previously created folder from internally to a USB stick - this does not work.
There are 3 files in this folder, ending with csv, mat and mlg.
The csv file is interesting for us, but we just can't get it copied.
Then my colleague thought OK, let's connect the scope to the PC and try to access the file.
But the scope is not even recognized as a usb device.
What else can we try?

I've just tried it on my SHS810X and copying a folder works for me - and it copies the including files with it to the USB stick. You just need to navigate to the folder and then on page 2 is the 'copy' function (F1 key). Then navigate to the USB stick and select paste. I don't think the scope supports USB mass storage mode unfortunately although this would be welcome if it did.

I assume you are using the latest firmware version.

[Martin72]

Hi,

Yes, we also tried the "copy" button - Is there any confirmation message when you do this ?

[InvisibleMan]

Hi,

Yes, we also tried the "copy" button - Is there any confirmation message when you do this ?

No, neither for copy or paste. Obviously, if you had a successful 'copy' action, then you will see the folder appear in the directory when you 'paste'.

[Martin72]

OK, my colleague said that wouldn't work, I haven't tried it, I'll do it tomorrow.
Woe betide him if that's it...

[Martin72]

It's just like you said, I tried it out.
But I don't blame my colleagues, because it's just flying blind.
If my usb stick didn't have an indicator led, I wouldn't have known if anything had happened.
If you press "copy" there is no feedback, if you press "paste" there is no feedback (except that the LED in the stick flickers), there is no feedback if a file has already been copied in the sense of should it be overwritten....
Nothing, nothing at all.
This should definitely be changed, @siglent....

[Martin72]

A short video about it, you can see exactly that you can't see anything...
If this were my handheld scope for home use, I would hardly have a problem with it, but it is used at work or externally and if the guys then want to pull down data, it should be a bit more obvious, the colleague was a bit desperate on site, time is sometimes money.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qqzWWoQv-54

[tautech]

It's just like you said, I tried it out.
But I don't blame my colleagues, because it's just flying blind.
If my usb stick didn't have an indicator led, I wouldn't have known if anything had happened.
If you press "copy" there is no feedback, if you press "paste" there is no feedback (except that the LED in the stick flickers), there is no feedback if a file has already been copied in the sense of should it be overwritten....
Nothing, nothing at all.
This should definitely be changed, @siglent....

Out comes my SHS1202X .....

Saving display screenshots certainly provides feedback of where the PNG file gets saved to, Local or USB if fitted.
Copy/Paste to another folder or drive/location OTOH currently doesn't provide a OSD temporary message.
In the video you had another file highlighted whereas you only need highlight the drive or folder.

A worthy request, to inform the user when ANY file type is saved or transferred in the file system, local or external.
Thanks Martin. 

[Martin72]

In the video you had another file highlighted whereas you only need highlight the drive or folder.

I had placed the field somewhere, because when you switch from local to U-disk, the "field" is in the first position, on "Up" - if you leave it there, nothing is saved.
This is also not communicated.
But it's good to know that switching to U-disk is enough.

A worthy request

Yes, that would be a real improvement.

[vsilves]

New firmware dropped.  Hesitant to update.  What does "adapts to hardware" mean? 

    SHS800X_Firmware_V1.1.21R6 (Release Date 10.15.24 )
    1/17/2024 1.1.21R6 1. Adapts to hardware version upgrades

[tautech]

New firmware dropped.  Hesitant to update.  What does "adapts to hardware" mean? 

    SHS800X_Firmware_V1.1.21R6 (Release Date 10.15.24 )
    1/17/2024 1.1.21R6 1. Adapts to hardware version upgrades

Welcome to the forum.

Yes, could have been worded better but we've seen this often before, as when HW changes are made for whatever reasons, the SW sometimes needs tweaks to maintain performance.

Nothing to worry about and thanks for flagging the FW update.
Better get onto updating mine......

[InvisibleMan]

I upgraded my SHS810X to the new firmware today with no problems.

However, it seems that the bug I recorded in message https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-x-model-siglent-handhelds-coming/msg5135931/#msg5135931 is still present (although perhaps not as frequent).

[TELCO]

I also updated my unit to the new FW version and so far no issues whatsoever. Best regards to all.

[mahi]

I have the 100 MHz model. I may try that. Are there instructions posted somewhere?

It's been a few years, so by now you may have figured it out, but for completeness here are the instructions to upgrade the SHS1102X (100MHz) to SHS1202X (200MHz), or SHS810X (100MHz) to SHS820X (200MHz). Since Siglent supplies both SHS1102X and SHS1202X with Stäubli Isoprobe II probes, good for 250 MHz, you don't need new probes. The SHS810X on the other hand comes with 100 MHz probes (PP510). You may need better probes to unlock the full potential of the upgrade to the SHS820X.

The instructions were taken from Unlocking Siglent SDS1104X-E, step by step and updated for the SHS series. All credits go to the people who originally hacked the Siglent scopes!

• Download and install the National Instruments NI-VISA Runtime version 5.4. Downloads on the National Instruments website require an account. A copy can be downloaded from Software Informer without account (link).
  
• Download and install Siglent EasyScopeX (direct link to latest version at moment of writing).
  
• Connect the SHS800X/SHS1000X to the PC with a USB cable.
• Power on the instrument and wait for it to start up.
• Launch EasyScopeX.
• On the "Scope" tab click "Add Device". The oscilloscope should be listed under "USBTMC". Select it and click "OK" to add the device.
• Switch to the "Send Commands" tab.
• In the "Command to send" textbox type SCOPEID? and send with the Enter key. The device answers SCOPE_ID 1234-5678-90ab-cdef (the part in green is the scope ID and important for later).
  
• Type command *IDN? and send. The scope replies with its model, serial and firmware version: Siglent Technologies,SHS1102X,SHS1234567890A,1.1.1.1.21R6 (the part in red is the serial number and important for later).
  
• Copy the Siglent keygen python script (mirror).
  
• Paste the script in an online python compiler (if you have python installed on your computer you can also run  it locally).
  
• Modify the first lines of the script with the scope ID, serial and correct model:

SCOPEID = '1234567890abcdef' # Scope ID without dashes!
SN      = 'SHS1234567890A'
Model   = 'SHS1000X'
(SHS1000X for the version with isolated channels, and -I assume- SHS800X for the version without isolated channels)

• Run the script. You will get an output like:

25M   PK232Q8I8U3DTEBA
40M   PJHY3NNH5J655X67
50M   C2EPYX5SM7APKJ7H
60M   MJZUJC3BCVZUAMMY
70M   37QEMKJ6N4GWYDUT
100M  CZWXQ6PAM3RFK8MI
150M  AXMBM753I2P93M7M
200M  HCM88T2STMS2R9PI
250M  CAEANM5B3VHKF22H
300M  PFW77UV32U45C33W
350M  MH6FPUG3XPZWMCPR
500M  A2D85R6HDJ5M6FGM
750M  NPK6QIHM5JPMVTZD
1000M GKS62W5K9R32SHDM
MAX   2XE3Z3BF6MDMMIGV
AWG   R8Q9B6KA2GA2H3P8
WIFI  NXP2XPKE8C2M3U2P
MSO   Z9BCRMVM73HNBJF3
FLX   8MQTZ2NVPJN3WVWP
CFD   UN68IWDW7WYWFT3Y
I2S   K583PVHA7BPCRRNP
1553  2Z7333TEHGJ3222Q
FG    JQ7Y23NI272X5MJV
16LA  UXHDN2HDDAZRI2TC

• Look for the value of 200M (200MHz): HCM88T2STMS2R9PI in the example above. Ignore the other items as they may not apply to SHS series.
  
• In EasyScopeX type command MCBD HCM88T2STMS2R9PI and send. There is no reply from the scope, but if all went well the scope is now updated to the 200MHz version. You can confirm this by sending *IDN? again. The scope will now answer Siglent Technologies,SHS1202X,SHS1234567890A,1.1.1.1.21R6 (SHS1102X changed to SHS1202X). This change is also reflected in the "System Status" screen of the oscilloscope.

The real proof would be a bandwidth test of course, but I'll leave that up to you...

If you want to go back to the original bandwidth, repeat the instructions but use the value of 100M (100MHz) generated by the script.

[vsilves]

Amazon has quite a discount (30% off) on these at the moment and for the last week or so (was 25%, now 30%).  Anybody else discounting the SHS810X?  Discount/coupon only shows when I'm logged in to amazon.com, otherwise it just shows the regular price $979.00.

https://www.amazon.com/Siglent-Technologies-SHS810X-Oscilloscope-Multimeter/dp/B0B5KTGM78/ref=sr_1_32_sspa?crid=10F4WY4BNUU4Y&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.EvHz0pY0gLK1IvZZpDLjxtFwAb_b3vzRik9UJLS5_X1NNfNMnz8VacHkJEEAaPmpAZo9FRv3-lET2yaVt9e8dSnwjqyOjFT1iImMZ71fuEcZvVtiwJIc1BsKdXwHHkUm1IDjMAgqRCHcv5eBECyVSsJzfzBeZBmKLR1YgUoR990ZtNSKqBjRGvQAnt34Orrx.GZ3e7hA5JXEt6_Eo_Vdm29j5NPFlm9L4eZRqmnBAUoE&dib_tag=se&keywords=oscilloscope+probe+10%3A1+fixed&qid=1737064303&sprefix=oscilloscope+probe+10+1+fixed%2Caps%2C133&sr=8-32-spons&xpid=byyjTrZQoYdDE&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9idGY&psc=1

[Sorama]

I don’t see a price at all.

[vsilves]

I don’t see a price at all.

Discount is still online but it may be US only.  Not sure. Just surprised by the magnitude.