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Title: NF FRA 5010A :Looking for user maual or GPIB command list
Post by: z80tw on September 22, 2017, 03:16:47 am
I bought an used NF FRA 5010A Frequency Response Analyzer about one year ago and planning to connect it to my PC recently,it has GPIB interface,Now I need user manual and GPIB command list to know how to control it with a PC.

Does anyone knows where it could be downloaded?please help if you can.
Title: Re: NF FRA 5010A :Looking for user maual or GPIB command list
Post by: alm on September 23, 2017, 02:25:38 pm
Looks like it might be modern enough to support SCPI (IEEE 488.2). Try sending it *IDN?. If it responds with the model, try finding a similar instrument from another manufacturer that also use SCPI and try if the same commands work. If it pre-dates SCPI, then it likely uses custom device dependent commands that may be hard to figure out without reverse-engineering the firmware.
Title: Re: NF FRA 5010A :Looking for user maual or GPIB command list
Post by: z80tw on September 23, 2017, 02:59:31 pm
I tried to issue "*IDN?" command the response on NF FRA5010A is "Error:Illeagal header" on display.
I believe it is an earlier model.thanks for your suggestion.
Title: Re: NF FRA 5010A :Looking for user maual or GPIB command list
Post by: yytseng on November 21, 2017, 12:20:31 am
May try "?ID"

If it works, you may use the manual of FRA 5087.
Title: Re: NF FRA 5010A :Looking for user maual or GPIB command list
Post by: z80tw on November 21, 2017, 01:12:43 pm
Tried "?ID" command and got same error response on NF FRA5010A display: "Error:Illeagal header".

Thanks for your suggestion.

Title: Re: NF FRA 5010A :Looking for user maual or GPIB command list
Post by: merox on November 21, 2017, 08:30:45 pm
Have you tried asking them for a manual? Usually japanese companies are quite proud about ther service and quality, so maybe send them a message via their contact form: http://nf-user.jp/en/ (http://nf-user.jp/en/)

If you don't want to do this you might get a hint about useful commands at their japanese website. They have some LabView drivers for other gear from the FRA 50**-series there, may they could become handy.
Title: Re: NF FRA 5010A :Looking for user maual or GPIB command list
Post by: z80tw on November 24, 2017, 03:26:08 pm
I just sent a manual request to NF.
I had done similar requests to different Japanese companies before,but got no reply,
may be the manuals I asked are too old....... :-//
Title: Re: NF FRA 5010A :Looking for user maual or GPIB command list
Post by: yytseng on November 27, 2017, 02:10:54 am
Could you send me the Serial Number of this FRA5010?
Title: Re: NF FRA 5010A :Looking for user maual or GPIB command list
Post by: thermistor-guy on November 27, 2017, 04:36:15 am
I tried to issue "*IDN?" command the response on NF FRA5010A is "Error:Illeagal header" on display.
I believe it is an earlier model.thanks for your suggestion.

"*IDN?" should work. But your instrument may not like the characters used to terminate the command.

Have a look at the syntax for command termination in this NF manual, page 41:
https://www.nfcorp.co.jp/english/sup/dl/manual/pp/e_dp_remote.pdf (https://www.nfcorp.co.jp/english/sup/dl/manual/pp/e_dp_remote.pdf)

Are you sending a carriage return (decimal 13) after the "*IDN?" ? Try terminating the command with just a line feed (decimal 10) instead.

Edit: on the FRA5087 you can select the delimiter (page 1-4 here: https://www.nfcorp.co.jp/english/sup/dl/manual/mi/e_fra5087_2.pdf (https://www.nfcorp.co.jp/english/sup/dl/manual/mi/e_fra5087_2.pdf)). Do you have a similar menu on your instrument?
Title: Re: NF FRA 5010A :Looking for user maual or GPIB command list
Post by: z80tw on December 02, 2017, 04:37:34 pm
"*IDN?" should work. But your instrument may not like the characters used to terminate the command.

Have a look at the syntax for command termination in this NF manual, page 41:
https://www.nfcorp.co.jp/english/sup/dl/manual/pp/e_dp_remote.pdf (https://www.nfcorp.co.jp/english/sup/dl/manual/pp/e_dp_remote.pdf)

Are you sending a carriage return (decimal 13) after the "*IDN?" ? Try terminating the command with just a line feed (decimal 10) instead.

Edit: on the FRA5087 you can select the delimiter (page 1-4 here: https://www.nfcorp.co.jp/english/sup/dl/manual/mi/e_fra5087_2.pdf (https://www.nfcorp.co.jp/english/sup/dl/manual/mi/e_fra5087_2.pdf)). Do you have a similar menu on your instrument?

The delimiter (CR & LF)works,many old Japanese instruments do not support "ID?","IDN?" or "*IDN?" commands.NF FRA5010A is just one of them.

I had been contacted by local agent of NF and received the GPIB interface manual.the NF FRA5010A accepts only 8 single letter commands +one two letter query.

Anyone who wants the GPIB interface manual should contact NF Japan (as merox suggested) or "yytseng" who is the agent of NF products in Taiwan.
I can't upload the GPIB maunal here because the manual was sent to me by private message,besides NF likes to know more about their users.