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Offline ordnitTopic starter

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NI GPIB-USB-HS - Issues
« on: August 05, 2021, 06:10:05 am »
Hi there,
as you can see from the subject, I'm struggling with this interface. On May 2020, as I was studying Labview, I managed to use the interface with an Agilent multimeter to perform some easy monitoring tasks. After one year, I connected the interface to the instrument but was unable to access it.
NI MAX shows the interface correctly and self test is performed without any issue. As I "scan for instruments" I get a "No instruments were found during the instrument scan". Same problems I have if I connect the interface to an Agilent counter.
May be the interface that "has died" on the GPIB side?

NI I/O trace screenshot is attached.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Best regards.1242287-0
 

Offline picburner

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Re: NI GPIB-USB-HS - Issues
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2021, 10:03:13 am »
Yes, you may have some gpib side problems.
Has the NI interface always worked well before?
Have you tried to change the gpib cable?
Do you have another Instrument to try?
 

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Re: NI GPIB-USB-HS - Issues
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2021, 08:53:04 pm »
I second the suggestions of trying a different cable and instrument. I have used GPIB-USB-HS for many years (I have a few) with no issues. I've used them with LabVIEW and other software. I find that they "just work". I've given up on using HP and other brands of USB-GPIB devices. Way too many problems getting them working.  I have often found that the scan doesn't find everything. But if things are connected properly and the unit is working it will respond. Most new instruments respond to *IDN?. If things aren't working at all I usually try a different cable or instrument to perform a sanity check. If you don't have another cable or instrument, that suggestion doesn't help much. With LabVIEW, I have had cases where things stopped working and I had to quit LabVIEW and restart it to make it work again (more often with Ethernet connections than GPIB).

If LabVIEW isn't working right, I'll try it with a C program which uses NI VISA (the same thing LabVIEW uses). I've attached the c program I use. I compile with gcc. To compile in a command window (PC) I type:

gcc visa.c -l:"C:\Program Files (x86)\IVI Foundation\VISA\WinNT\lib\msc\visa32.lib" -o visa

this assumes the default directory for the 32 bit VISA install on a Windows machine. I've also attached a visa_find program. The exe.zip contains compiled versions from my 64 bit Win10 machine. You'll have to recompile to run on Win32bit. I use the CodeBlocks install to get gcc, but don't use the Codeblocks IDE; I just compile from the command line.
 

Offline ordnitTopic starter

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Re: NI GPIB-USB-HS - Issues
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2021, 10:50:11 am »
Thank you all for support and help.

This morning I made a test with another instrument: I have two 34401A "the twins". The first one was not working and not recognized by NI MAX. The one I tested
this morning worked like a charm. It was detected by the software. I could not test it in deep as I had to face a black-out at workplace but this means that the
interface is working. As soon as I come back from holidays, I'll try to resolve the issue I have with the other twin and with the counter 53131A which is the device I need to control.

Thank you for software, I'll give it a try.

Best regards.
 

Offline ordnitTopic starter

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Re: NI GPIB-USB-HS - Issues - SOLVED
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2021, 01:08:58 pm »
Hi there,
long story short: it was my mistake.

When I attached the NI adapter to the counter, I notice it was somewhat "loose". So I tighten the screws and made my software tests. No good. Being quite out of ideas, I took an old and dusty GPIB cable and connected the adapter to the female cable connector. Automagically, the counter was clearly visible on labview and I was able to get data from it. So it was a mechanical problem: the GPIB interface is too thick to mate with the counter. A lot of time lost, a new lesson learned: problems are not only in software, debug them starting from physical layer! :D

Thank you for your help.
Best regards!
 


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