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james_s:
There is also a far greater difference in capability and usability between a slide rule and a calculator than there is between a CRO and DSO. The one killer feature that a DSO offers is single shot capture and there were analog storage CROs that could do this too. The readouts and measurements are nice, but again quite a few of the later CROs had this feature too. Lacking it, reading the graticule is not difficult, the readout just adds a bit of convenience. Even without storage a scope camera enabled single shot capture. FFT is unique to a DSO but in my experience it isn't really all that useful, it's not nearly as good as a proper spectrum analyzer. I used analog scopes for ~15 years before I ever had a DSO, I think the DSO is a significant improvement in almost every way, but I can still pull out the analog scope and use it for most things, it's not a laborious chore like doing complex calculations by hand. It shows me the waveform and that's all I really need most of the time. A DSO is just a refinement that adds some abilities and convenience.
mastershake:
he said he was browsing around and asked me today about hantek (on aliexpress) any thoughts from anyone here on those i notice in reading some hate them and some seem to like them. just curious.

Bionicbone:
Me too to be honest, although too late, the new Siglent SDS1104x-e arrived yesterday.

The problem is with the "nothings changed in years" thing means here are so many videos over the years that covers everything but some \ most \ all issues have been resolved.

In the end I went Siglent since the business it's self suggest that's they would need to be in the later group, but the cheaper end I suspect could be one of the former.

I never did find a video pitching the best in each class, very cheap, budget, quality budget together from a new to scopes hobbyist point of view and where each would become a problem on the learning journey. It seems obvious to me that someone who's been using scopes for years would probably get frustrated with a scope not as quick or had advanced limitations, but as a newbie I seemed to keep getting pushed up the scale because I just wasn't sure if things would quickly hold me back.

That said, I am happy with my decision, I feel it should get me as far as I want to go or get to, and I won't be left wondering, scope issue or circuit? (I hope).
n4u:
I was out of date, pricing went up these days. There was time when u could buy analog or old dso for about 100USD, now you should stick with rigol - old one are overpriced ...
robert.rozee:

--- Quote from: mastershake on March 24, 2023, 05:09:04 am ---he said he was browsing around and asked me today about hantek (on aliexpress) any thoughts from anyone here on those i notice in reading some hate them and some seem to like them. just curious.

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DSO2C10, DSO2C15, DSO2D10, DSO2D15: a relatively new model. people seem to have various problems with firmware bugs, and they seem to be designed and built to a very low price point. i'd personally not recommend them unless your budget is very constrained, and advise to keep your expectations quite low. having said that, they are better than no scope!

there is also Hantek's DSO5072P that he may have seen and has been around for quite a number of years. relatively small memory depth (40kpts i think) and they seem to have a propensity to occasionally blow up their power supply or corrupt internal firmware. again, only consider if your budget is constrained and keep your expectations low.

as for AliExpress: don't touch with a barge-pole! you will have next to no backup if anything goes wrong such as a warranty claim. i buy quite a bit from Ebay (china), and occasionally from AliExpress, but only small items where i am happy to write off the purchase if the purchase turns out to be a dud. small components and electronic modules, nothing costing more than a few dollars.

my scope recommendation would be to go for Siglent, their models are a generation newer than Rigol's DS1054z et al. OR, if he can find a cheap/small transistorized CRO built post-1980 for us$30 or less, get that as a stopgap until he decides upon a DSO. a CRO is still usable for many things, but as others have said a DSO can do a whole lot more.


all 100% opinion, of course!

cheers,
rob   :-)
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