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Oscilloscope Choice: Yokogawa DL1740EL or Iwatsu DS-5624A or Tektronics TBS2204B
Aldo22:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 29, 2024, 07:55:31 am ---I've done a video on exactly this:
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You say in the video:
"Price category is everything when you're talking about scopes."
Very true! But why not be consistent?
In the video you actively advise against ~$150 scopes.
But this is also a price category and even these scopes can be more than enough for many hobbyists.
In some cases, even the AWG is already included.
I see no reason to categorically exclude this price category. Just take them for what they are.
Any scope is better than no scope. ;)
thm_w:
--- Quote from: Aldo22 on May 29, 2024, 07:47:38 am ---
--- Quote from: thm_w on May 28, 2024, 09:36:58 pm ---No one is suggesting OP to go and buy a $300 scope.
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Why not? (Well, maybe $500+)
The OP says, "I don't have a specific feature I'm looking for, but I want to optimize bang/buck."
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No but I'm giving them enough credit that they would need 200MHz+ and a decent size screen since they listed 200/500MHz scopes. If they don't then that is their fault for not specificity requirements better. Why would we try to save them money when they can't be bothered to post the relevant info?
--- Quote ---Maybe it would be helpful if the OP told us if he already has a scope and which one.
Then we could estimate what he means by "decent" or what the next step could be.
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Exactly, pointless speculation until they give details.
--- Quote from: Aldo22 on May 29, 2024, 10:07:53 am ---Very true! But why not be consistent?
In the video you actively advise against ~$150 scopes.
But this is also a price category and even these scopes can be more than enough for many hobbyists.
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- The quality/features a $300 scope gets you over a $150 is arguably more than 2x
- The type of people Dave is targeting, IMO, are more serious hobbyists or people that will be using the scope for years to come and expanding their skills and knowledge. $150 is fine if you continue to do basic hobby projects, but not if you plan to grow at all.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: Aldo22 on May 29, 2024, 10:07:53 am ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 29, 2024, 07:55:31 am ---I've done a video on exactly this:
--- End quote ---
You say in the video:
"Price category is everything when you're talking about scopes."
Very true! But why not be consistent?
In the video you actively advise against ~$150 scopes.
But this is also a price category and even these scopes can be more than enough for many hobbyists.
In some cases, even the AWG is already included.
I see no reason to categorically exclude this price category. Just take them for what they are.
Any scope is better than no scope. ;)
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Yeah, fair enough. And I've said as much in cheap scope reviews.
Usually people are talking about a bench scope though.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: thm_w on May 29, 2024, 09:30:00 pm ---- The quality/features a $300 scope gets you over a $150 is arguably more than 2x
- The type of people Dave is targeting, IMO, are more serious hobbyists or people that will be using the scope for years to come and expanding their skills and knowledge. $150 is fine if you continue to do basic hobby projects, but not if you plan to grow at all.
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Yes, this.
As I said, people are usually talking about a bench scope when they ask the "what first scope should I buy question".
If they genuinely only have $50 or $100 to spend, then I'm not going to insist that they forget it unless they have $300.
jonpaul:
Dave we used many Yokogawa Japanese scopes since 1992,
1560, DL1740, DL7440.
All have been easy to use, robust and ergonomic controls.
Main failure was dead backup battery, easy to replace.
I have no info on Iwatsu but found early TEK digital like TDS350 somewhat hard to use.
Still using the YEW 1740 and 7440.
Just my experience,
Jon
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