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| Someone:
--- Quote from: nctnico on May 10, 2020, 09:29:12 am --- --- Quote from: Someone on May 09, 2020, 11:52:42 pm ---Zoom mode adds one very important control that is missing when letting the scope expand around the visible window: you gain control of where the trigger is located within the full capture depth. --- End quote --- Basically you are trying to argue that you always should use an automatic transmission (of a car) in manual mode so you have full control without even questioning whether you actually need full control. To make a car analogy: you can use an automatic transmission in manual mode but you can't use a manual transmission in automatic mode. --- End quote --- Its much more like you so strongly prefer the manual shift pattern with reverse above 1st that you bring up "workflow" issues when anyone mentions a vehicle using anything else. P.S. Relying on symmetric (undefined?) expansion around the window is having less control over the trigger position.... less control. Ideally a scope would have all those parameters broken out separately, but I don't know of any that do as its such an unusual use case. |
| nctnico:
Perhaps you should read more careful... there are at least 3 others which use an oscilloscope the same way. And there is no less control over the trigger position; triggering works just fine. I don't care about how much data there is exactly at either sides of the trigger point as long as it is enough. The more memory an oscilloscope can use the lower the chance that it isn't enough. Just like an automatic gearbox. As long as the car is moving the way I want it to move I don't care about the gear and engine RPM. I might want to go to manual mode to overtake quickly but after that back to full automatic. And I don't get how fast waveform updates suddenly become relevant in this thread; capturing beyond the screen has no downsides. Just set the memory shorter one way or another and you have more waveforms/s and/or history / segmented recording. |
| tautech:
Or we could just start the car in gear because pressing of the clutch is just another further unnecessary operation ! :horse: An old fuddy duddy down the road never liked going up through the box so instead would ring the hell out of the engine in 1st so to be able to next drop it into 4th. ::) Talking of gear shift patterns, ever driven a Road Ranger box where the creeper gear is directly above reverse ? |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: tautech on May 10, 2020, 09:45:08 am ---Or we could just start the car in gear because pressing of the clutch is just another further unnecessary operation ! :horse: --- End quote --- That is another advantage of an automatic gearbox; you don't have to press the clutch pedal. Good point! |
| tautech:
--- Quote from: nctnico on May 10, 2020, 09:49:25 am --- --- Quote from: tautech on May 10, 2020, 09:45:08 am ---Or we could just start the car in gear because pressing of the clutch is just another further unnecessary operation ! :horse: --- End quote --- That is another advantage of an automatic gearbox; you don't have to press the clutch pedal. Good point! --- End quote --- ::) Another thing you haven't properly thought through. You can't start an auto in gear and once started you need to select D after pressing the foot brake and the guy that started the manual in gear is already way off down the road ! |
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